[Discussion] Naruto: Boy Wizard? A Harry Potter connection

[CasualMisfit]

Naruto: Boy Wizard? A Harry Potter connection

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So... Before I betrayed another forum for this one some years ago... I wrote about alil observation I made... Thought I'd rewrite it here and update it...

:::SPOILERS FOR NARUTO AND HARRY POTTER AHEAD:::​

So... Being both a Harry Potter fan and a Naruto fan... I discovered what I once believed to be influences for the Naruto plot... obviously I have no more proof than my own observation... but it's an interesting idea... (imo)

So let's start at the beginning... We now know that Naruto's parents, who were both extremely talented ninja, sacrificed themselves for Naruto... This being the fault of the series' main antagonist Madara. This sacrifice led to Naruto being imbued with the power of the Kyuubi thanks to the manner of said sacrifice...

With Harry Potter his parent (talented magicians) sacrificed themselves for Harry against attacker Voldermort... Also embedding a mysterious power within Harry... (love or something)...

Now... years pass and both Harry and Naruto live their lives respectively into their teens while both Voldermort and Madara are seeking ways to restore themselves to their former glory... In these times Naruto and Harry find ways to speak with their deceased parents through indirect means... Madara and Voldermort finally revealing themselves, initiate war.

(I would mention the use of snakes for both Voldermort/Slytherin and Orochimaru... but serpents are used in numerous media to symbolise evil. but there it is if you want it!)

We then have double agents Snape and Itachi... Both seeming to be good guys then seeming to betray their "people"... Both leading to their deaths before we discover that they were good all along and protecting a main character through their actions! Snape/Harry Itachi/Sasuke.

Then we have the eternal enemies/rivals... Senju and Uchiha... Gryffindor and Slytherin...

Salazar Slytherin founded Hogwarts school with Godric Gryffindor (and two others) bet never truly saw eye to eye... leading to an eternal rivalry between their two houses... Seem familiar to anyone?

Now obviously I'm not accusing Kishimoto of plagiarism... After all... Rowling's works have numerous similarities to such works as Lord of the Rings and even the Bible... It's natural for one story and it's concepts to be influenced by a predecessors'... and of course there is always the matter of coincidence... but it's just a fun little idea I thought I'd share with NB.

Discuss?

 

[Zohka Uchiha]

chamber of secrets ( the chamber in movie two) and the secret uchiha tablet tablet room or also something they have in common. Although we do not know the full meaning of the uchiha tablet room.

 

[CasualMisfit]

chamber of secrets ( the chamber in movie two) and the secret uchiha tablet tablet room or also something they have in common. Although we do not know the full meaning of the uchiha tablet room.

Ahh good one... yeah... the darker sides in both stories did indeed have a secret chamber only fully accessible by someone who had the correct skills passed down through the line of Uchiha (sharingan) and Slytherin (parseltongue)...

Nice one!

 

[leafeater]

I find this to be a fine literary analysis, and am interested to see other people's thoughts. Don't forget star Star Wars (where Fukasku = Yoda, etc.), other anime/manga, and of course mythology. It's essentially a demonstration of convergent social thought and evolution in my opinion.

I think both authors had a great deal of this planned out and that similarity in the themes is from convergent thought and shared background reading and cultural knowledge. Some of Greek mythology overlaps with Japanese, and it's at that point that the shared similarity reaches an anthropological level, as humans share the same experience to me.

I laud you on this, as viewing the manga in these lights is often a rare thread, yet interesting without including why Naruto will have a new bloodline expansion monopoly (lol), etc. While these theories are still interesting, they are much more common place.

Cheers

P.S. Naruto would slaughter Harry Potter or talk him into killing himself.

 

[CasualMisfit]

I find this to be a fine literary analysis, and am interested to see other people's thoughts. Don't forget star Star Wars (where Fukasku = Yoda, etc.), other anime/manga, and of course mythology. It's essentially a demonstration of convergent social thought and evolution in my opinion.

I think both authors had a great deal of this planned out and that similarity in the themes is from convergent thought and shared background reading and cultural knowledge. Some of Greek mythology overlaps with Japanese, and it's at that point that the shared similarity reaches an anthropological level, as humans share the same experience to me.

I laud you on this, as viewing the manga in these lights is often a rare thread, yet interesting without including why Naruto will have a new bloodline expansion monopoly (lol), etc. While these theories are still interesting, they are much more common place.

Cheers

P.S. Naruto would slaughter Harry Potter or talk him into killing himself.

Thank you!

Love your comments and totally agree... You make a very good point about shared background reading and cultural knowledge.. Naturally this would indeed lead to similar works...

I have been doing research recently on Japanese mythology... and have noticed the aforementioned overlapping...

And yes... tbh... Harry Potter is overshadowed in skill by alot of people... With the whole "neither can live while the other survives" prophecy in play... and his opponent being the strongest dark wizard ever... you'd think he'd study hard and up his skillset...

 

[Narutosixpaths]

Alright this is another similarity, and I happen to fan of both as well leaf eater reading your post made me think of this. You said Narutos convergence of bloodline. Lots of people speculate Itachis gift has passed on some Uchiha DNA maybe giving him the abilities to grab some power, also Harry potter has a convergence of it because he has the parsle tounge ability which naturally is supposed to belong to slitherin which he gaiend from being cursed by Voldemort, and Naurto similarly done by Itachi but not with the intention to hurt him as far as we know.

 

[Sarutobi Dosu]

Harry Potter does not have to try to get his friend back, which seems like the major plot point of the entire series. Also, Harry Potter was seen as a very bright and popular student. He was also not alone when he was a child, he had a family that he hated.

There are a lot of similarities though. Like the fact that he was able talk to him dead parents...

 

[CasualMisfit]

Alright this is another similarity, and I happen to fan of both as well leaf eater reading your post made me think of this. You said Narutos convergence of bloodline. Lots of people speculate Itachis gift has passed on some Uchiha DNA maybe giving him the abilities to grab some power, also Harry potter has a convergence of it because he has the parsle tounge ability which naturally is supposed to belong to slitherin which he gaiend from being cursed by Voldemort, and Naurto similarly done by Itachi but not with the intention to hurt him as far as we know.

Good point.... altho' there's not proof of that yet it's possible... I think Itachi's gift will be a trap for sasuke more than anything (like with Madara)... maybe tsukuyomi genjutsu to show Sasuke something that may help change him. Maybe it's a final conversation Itachi has with Sasuke!

Harry Potter does not have to try to get his friend back, which seems like the major plot point of the entire series. Also, Harry Potter was seen as a very bright and popular student. He was also not alone when he was a child, he had a family that he hated.

There are a lot of similarities though. Like the fact that he was able talk to him dead parents...

While I am pointing out similarities and I do appreciate your response... I'm in no way trying to say the stories are identical... But now that you bring up their friendships...

There's Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura... Harry, Ron, Hermione... two boys one girl!

Also Harry goes through stages of unpopularity... Initially in chamber of secrets then goblet of fire... and throughout order of the phoenix!