Naruto BM> EMS Sasuke

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Hi guys. I'm going to make an explanation on how naruto BM is above EMS Sasuke. The first argument I want to counter here is the one that "lol, kishi said they're equal, they're equal". This is false, and I explained it here:
They're not always equal in the same time, they make progress together.

Ok, so let's see in all of naruto's abilities and feats: kage bushin(SM clones, KCM clones, BM clones), bijuu dama(powerful enough to tank a combination of 5 bijuu's bijuu dama, and powerful enough to destroy moutains) and chou mini bijuu dama, rasengan and it's variations; Insane speed(faster than the 4th raikage in KCM, even faster in BM), great strength(the strength of the chakra arms, can crush giant stones easily), durability(kyuubi's chakra-stamina and defense) and powerful defense(kyuubi's chakra and chakra projections of part of kurama's body or the entire body)

Now, sasuke's: Susanoo(from rip cage to final susanoo(not PS)) and it's atacks(susanoo arrow, shield, enton sword and arrow, yasata no magatama(regular and enton), great enton(manipulating amaterasu into many forms), chidori and it's variations, EMS(can cast genjutsu and read movements); great speed(one of the fastest shinobi's alive, can even dodge the raikage), great stamina( he is able to use susanoo and other EMS techs for a long time many times), great defense(susanoo) and stronger than many shinobis.

Now, their fight: Naruto has a counter for all of sasuke's abilities(speed to dodge the arrows or amaterasu, chakra projections do protect himself, clones to trick sasuke, fast enough for sasuke not to read his moves, perfect jin to counter genjutsu) and he is above of sasuke in speed, strength and stamina(kurama's chakra). Sasuke's susanoo is powerful, however, we haven't seen it tanking a mountain buster atack, but we did see the power of naruto's bijuu dama. So, considering only what we've seen(I can't consider some new power that sasuke might have, as I didn't see it) sasuke can't tank bijuu damas, not the ones in naruto BM level.

Both characters are very strong and top 10. It's likely that sasuke will get some power up soon, if kishi still wants to make their fight. This is an hypothetical battle, and I'm considering all the feats WE'VE SEEN in the manga. With this, naruto BM> sasuke EMS
Please, no fanboyism and troll repplies as "no, sasuke solos" "lol they're equal, /thread" or anything overrating both chars. Thanks for your time, I hope you liked it.
 

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Didn't read, Naruto -> Sasuke.
 

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Seriously, how many times are these threads gonna be made? We get it already. There have been more than 50 of these threads with the same exact title by now.
 

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This is obvious but be weary of the shitstorm that irrational sasuke fanboys will bring.
 

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Seriously, how many times are these threads gonna be made? We get it already. There have been more than 50 of these threads with the same exact title by now.

Possibly more. And more will come. it's getting old
 

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Seriously, how many times are these threads gonna be made? We get it already. There have been more than 50 of these threads with the same exact title by now.

This thread might be made many times, and might even be obvious, but there are stll countless fanboys that denies it with opinions with no evidences, so I'll make such thread to prove my point.
 

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Same here. It's not really a debatable matter. Naruto is to Goku as Sasuke is to Vegeta (They're just not as cool >.>)

Indeed, the thing is sasuke has to admit he cannot beat naruto. Simple as that.
 

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Or, the more simple explanation...

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This was common knowledge. Bijuu Naruto simply has the raw power edge here. Though, one should not count out EMS Sasuke. He pushes this to a high diff fight. Saying anything less is a bit ridiculous.
 

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no
bm is equal to ems;like you said sasuke hasn't used his full ems yet but kishi straight up said he keeps them of the opposite sides of the yin/yang spectrum
What is your feeling toward Sasuke now that he has gone through drastic change throughout the series?

Sasuke is always in the corner of my mind. Naruto and Sasuke progress as a pair. So when I write about Naruto, I always have to think about Sasuke. They are on opposite sides of the spectrum, like yin and yang
naruto's first dose of yang chakra
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sasuke's second dose of yin chakra;feeling itachi's power flowing throw him power=yin chakra
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itachi calling it "true power"
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naruto's yang-like uzumaki chakra+plus kurama's yang=younger son's chakra signature
sasuke's sharingan+two mangekyou sharingan's=older son's chakra signature
 

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no
bm is equal to ems;like you said sasuke hasn't used his full ems yet but kishi straight up said he keeps them of the opposite sides of the yin/yang spectrum

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naruto's second dose
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sasuke's second dose of yin chakra;feeling itachi's power flowing throw him power=yin chakra
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itachi calling it "true power"
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naruto's yang-like uzumaki chakra+plus kurama's yang=younger son's chakra signature
sasuke's sharingan+two mangekyou sharingan's=older son's chakra signature

The same flawed argument as always. I already explained it. There are many occasions in which naruto was aove sasuke and sasuke was above naruto. 2 exemples to prove it: Sasuke's debut in part 2, sasuke was above naruto. Part 2 right after the pain arc, naruto SM> MS sasuke pre susanoo(stated by zetsu). These were momments when they were not equal. This proves that they are not always equal in the same time. They make progess as pairs, one gets stronger, and the other stronger right after it, or some time after, until their final fight.
 

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no
bm is equal to ems;like you said sasuke hasn't used his full ems yet but kishi straight up said he keeps them of the opposite sides of the yin/yang spectrum

naruto's first dose of yang chakra
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sasuke's fist dose of yin chakra
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naruto's second dose
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sasuke's second dose of yin chakra;feeling itachi's power flowing throw him power=yin chakra
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itachi calling it "true power"
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naruto's yang-like uzumaki chakra+plus kurama's yang=younger son's chakra signature
sasuke's sharingan+two mangekyou sharingan's=older son's chakra signature

Uchiha = Yin
Senju = Yang
Uzumaki = ?
 

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The same flawed argument as always. I already explained it. There are many occasions in which naruto was aove sasuke and sasuke was above naruto. 2 exemples to prove it: Sasuke's debut in part 2, sasuke was above naruto. Part 2 right after the pain arc, naruto SM> MS sasuke pre susanoo(stated by zetsu). These were momments when they were not equal. This proves that they are not always equal in the same time. They make progess as pairs, one gets stronger, and the other stronger right after it, or some time after, until their final fight.
you're right about that but naruto has as much yang chakra in bm as sasuke has yin with his ems
dont forget that naruto said he's going to need kurama's chakra if he's going to be able to fight sasuke
Uchiha = Yin
Senju = Yang
Uzumaki = ?
the basis of yang chakra is life-force plus physical energies
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kushina had a remarkabe life-force
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uzumaki's have a yang-like chakra but it's not as strong as the senjus or at least hashi because it takes all of kurama's chakra for naruto's chakra to be comparable to hashi
 

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you're right about that but naruto has as much yang chakra in bm as sasuke has yin with his ems
dont forget that naruto said he's going to need kurama's chakra if he's going to be able to fight sasuke

No, naruto has more chakra. Naruto is already an uzumaki, and he has the most powerful bijuu(not considering juubi) inside of him. That's why sasuke needs some power up to put them very close again.
 

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you're right about that but naruto has as much yang chakra in bm as sasuke has yin with his ems
dont forget that naruto said he's going to need kurama's chakra if he's going to be able to fight sasuke

No, naruto has more chakra. Naruto is already an uzumaki, and he has the most powerful bijuu(not considering juubi) inside of him. That's why sasuke needs some power up to put them very close again.
 

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Even I have admit Sasuke has been left behind by now by Naruto.
 
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