naruto battle genius are extremely underrated

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people why? why do people underrate the kid so bad...i mean next to shikamaru and kakashi and maybe sasuke, naruto has the most battle smart feats in the manga....the reason i didnt put minato, itachi and all is because in this thread im using feats mostly but they are often just hyped w/ some little feats here and there...

when discussing about naruto in vs threads, people always use the excuse that naruto is dumb and will be outsmarted by his opponents, but when we look carefully naruto has never been outsmarted in the manga, i repeat NEVER...in fact he has outsmarted many and among them there are very smart ones

if u dnt believe me just read the manga and tell me wrong...even when they were together in team 7, naruto has the most feats out of his peers...in the wave land, naruto was the one who showed battle genius against zabuza, not sasuke and that the only instance they worked together...

if u look at every opponents naruto has faced he has outsmarted and tricked most of them but he himself has never been tricked by them...

- against zabuza: that wasnt only a case of KB feint, that was a plan thought before hand and complex enough and naruto pulled that off, proving his smart just days after graduating from the academy

- against kiba: he outsmarted and tricked him w/ KB, henge combo making kiba duke it out w/ akamaru

- against neji: tricked him w/ KB and digged a hole so neji byakugan couldnt detect him and the genius neji fell for it

- against gaara: his KB combinations and the targetting of gaara's weak spot(though this was luck but who doesnt need luck) was awsome stuff

- against sasuke: well that fight was just full of brawl and power ups from both side, neither were really analytical or were using smart tactics...it was simply; u smash me, i smash u..

- against kakashi(bell test): tricked the smarty kakshi w/ a KB and was behind him w/ a kunai...notice, this is kakashi we're talking about (someone compared to shikamaru when it come to smart)

- against itachi(30% clone): naruto was able to read and understand kakashi smart moves and plans and could follow kakashi analytical thinking just fine and they ended up working together perfectly

- against kakuzu: tricked him w/ KB rasengan combo

- against pain: he tricked him and ousmarted him several times in that fight...in fact naruto won that fight mostly do to tactics and outsmarting and tricking pain

- against 3th raikage: it fresh so people still remember how naruto did against him

so there is the list of naruto battles and as u can see folks naruto has never been outsmarted by anyone on that list which contain many type of shinobi, he is the one doing the outsmarting and tricking

so where do people get the idea that opponents will just outsmart naruto in combat like he was a 5 years old...i just showed u evidence and feats, placing him in the top 5 best battle smart fighters....heck he has the most feats out of everyone in the manga...

people have to give credits were its due, whether we are haters or fans...

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against Gaara it was a team effort
Cause Gamabunta told him what to do mostly, like actually hitting Gaara while he was sleep and turning him into something with nails was all the toads idea
 

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I agree, I think this all the time, also you missed that again Kakashi (bell test) he found Kakashis weakness so they could get the bells
 

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Because he failed the ninja acadamy. And he wins most of his fights by outlasting his opponents (incredible stamina but OP chakra, mainly down to the Kyuubi despite him having an uncommonly large amount of chakra).
 

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Naruto sucks, all his powers are thanks to the Kiubii.. nuff said
You mate are a real peice of work aren't you most of his feats come from not using Kuramas power. He has sage mode which straight away made him the strongest ninja in Konoha and doesn't require kurama's power nor does his rasenshuriken or any forms of the rasengan and the same can be said for his clones. You obviously forget that he has great power,huge amount of chakra and massive stamina without Kurama if he sucks so much then Kurama would have taken over his body along time ago. Its because of his will that he hasn't his intelligence during battle is right up there with the likes of Shikamaru and Kakashi.
 

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Because he failed the ninja acadamy. And he wins most of his fights by outlasting his opponents (incredible stamina but OP chakra, mainly down to the Kyuubi despite him having an uncommonly large amount of chakra).
dude did u even read my post...i mean really? ur answer, it's like it's just came out of nowhere...im not talking about winning battles here, in talking about his intelligence in battles and i gave proof..
i really dnt know what to say to you, you answer is random or u didnt understand any word i wrote in the op post...not to bright i see
 

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dude did u even read my post...i mean really? ur answer, it's like it's just came out of nowhere...im not talking about winning battles here, in talking about his intelligence in battles and i gave proof..
i really dnt know what to say to you, you answer is random or u didnt understand any word i wrote in the op post...not to bright i see
Yeah, he's not intelligent, he's an idiot but he still wins.
 

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Naruto sucks, all his powers are thanks to the Kiubii.. nuff said
what does having kurama have to do w/ being battle smart...does being OP makes one dumb, i mean guys read the post first then answer...please next time try to give a smart answer instead of trolling and within the context of the topic...
 

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well i agree with you. i mean outside of battles yeah is dumb and fails at tests and shit, but when it comes to battle he really surprises all of us with his intelligence in combat.
 

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what does having kurama have to do w/ being battle smart...does being OP makes one dumb, i mean guys read the post first then answer...please next time try to give a smart answer instead of trolling and within the context of the topic...
Lol just ignore that one mate he even started another tobi is obito thread:rolleyes:
I agree with what you said to a point I don't think he very smart outside of battle but in a fight he is very battle smart and all your points proved that there in no way he would come up with any of those plans before the fights but he always thinks of his next move.
 

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people why? why do people underrate the kid so bad...i mean next to shikamaru and kakashi and maybe sasuke, naruto has the most battle smart feats in the manga....the reason i didnt put minato, itachi and all is because in this thread im using feats mostly but they are often just hyped w/ some little feats here and there...

when discussing about naruto in vs threads, people always use the excuse that naruto is dumb and will be outsmarted by his opponents, but when we look carefully naruto has never been outsmarted in the manga, i repeat NEVER...in fact he has outsmarted many and among them there are very smart ones

if u dnt believe me just read the manga and tell me wrong...even when they were together in team 7, naruto has the most feats out of his peers...in the wave land, naruto was the one who showed battle genius against zabuza, not sasuke and that the only instance they worked together...

if u look at every opponents naruto has faced he has outsmarted and tricked most of them but he himself has never been tricked by them...

- against zabuza: that wasnt only a case of KB feint, that was a plan thought before hand and complex enough and naruto pulled that off, proving his smart just days after graduating from the academy

- against kiba: he outsmarted and tricked him w/ KB, henge combo making kiba duke it out w/ akamaru

- against neji: tricked him w/ KB and digged a hole so neji byakugan couldnt detect him and the genius neji fell for it

- against gaara: his KB combinations and the targetting of gaara's weak spot(though this was luck but who doesnt need luck) was awsome stuff

- against sasuke: well that fight was just full of brawl and power ups from both side, neither were really analytical or were using smart tactics...it was simply; u smash me, i smash u..

- against kakashi(bell test): tricked the smarty kakshi w/ a KB and was behind him w/ a kunai...notice, this is kakashi we're talking about (someone compared to shikamaru when it come to smart)

- against itachi(30% clone): naruto was able to read and understand kakashi smart moves and plans and could follow kakashi analytical thinking just fine and they ended up working together perfectly

- against kakuzu: tricked him w/ KB rasengan combo

- against pain: he tricked him and ousmarted him several times in that fight...in fact naruto won that fight mostly do to tactics and outsmarting and tricking pain

- against 3th raikage: it fresh so people still remember how naruto did against him

so there is the list of naruto battles and as u can see folks naruto has never been outsmarted by anyone on that list which contain many type of shinobi, he is the one doing the outsmarting and tricking

so where do people get the idea that opponents will just outsmart naruto in combat like he was a 5 years old...i just showed u evidence and feats, placing him in the top 5 best battle smart fighters....heck he has the most feats out of everyone in the manga...

people have to give credits were its due, whether we are haters or fans...

discuss
naruto won most of those fights using Talk no Justu. Esp pain. Naruto is not so much book smart or anything, but with the help of his clones he can gain enough xp to win every fight. Learning RS/Sagemode/BM is just extra perks. I am not dising the man but he is not that smart. He gets lucky with alot of stuff. really he defeated kiba with a fart, soooooo yeah. Also he is the main charater of the f'in story of course he is going to win his fights.
 

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He has his moments, but he's not what I would call a genius. That word is thrown around way too much and only belongs to a few shinobi imo. Those are Shikamaru, Shikaku, Itachi, Minato, Kakashi, and Orochimaru.

Naruto's a clever shinobi, but I wouldn't ever go as far as to say he's a genius.
 
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