Naruto and Sasuke's Powerups Logically

[123fire]

I can explain logically how Naruto and Sasuke received the powerups . Its not from Rikudo Sennin Otsutsuki Hagoromo-sama.

Ok Naruto took little chakra from each tailed beast Obito helped him to have the 8 and 1 tails chakra that was absent .

Naruto unlocked Rikudo Sage Mode from that logically speaking. He was so close to Juubi jinchuuriki

Now About Sasuke do u remember when Hashirama told Sasuke to stand before him to give him his chakra? Yup SENJU DNA + UCHIHA DNA= Rennigan.

But Sasuke didn't suddenly awaken it , when he was close to death like Old Madara he unlocked it which makes PERFECT sense. Plus Kabuto's chakra helped too.

The sage wasn't responsible for their modes , the only thing the sage gave them is the sun and moon seal .

Do u guys agree? I mean u can't deny this , the things that happened made it logical for them to unlock what they unlocked

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

Question: Do you guys agree?

Answer: No

Reason: Hagaromo clearly stated he gave them his chakra and not just seals

 

[Ricardo]

I disagree.

 

[Opiuchus05]

Hagoromo didn't need to be there in order for naruto and sasuke to have rsm and rinnegan
Obito knew what Bijuu power naruto needed and sasuke had hashi's dna and near death experience could have made sasuke awaken the rinnegan but Hago is apart of the story
So I somewhat agree it could have easily been written that obito and kabuto made naruto and sasuke awaken their powers in stead of hago

 

[SenseiSama]

Hagoromo said Naruto and Sasuke were able to summon him through their subconscious, he gave them his chakra while Kabuto and Obito provided them with the necessary requirements to unlock his abilities.

 

[Angelic.]

Pretty sure db says they were gifts from the sage

 

[Holy God]

I can explain logically how Naruto and Sasuke received the powerups . Its not from Rikudo Sennin Otsutsuki Hagoromo-sama.

Ok Naruto took little chakra from each tailed beast Obito helped him to have the 8 and 1 tails chakra that was absent .

Naruto unlocked Rikudo Sage Mode from that logically speaking. He was so close to Juubi jinchuuriki

Now About Sasuke do u remember when Hashirama told Sasuke to stand before him to give him his chakra? Yup SENJU DNA + UCHIHA DNA= Rennigan.

But Sasuke didn't suddenly awaken it , when he was close to death like Old Madara he unlocked it which makes PERFECT sense. Plus Kabuto's chakra helped too.

The sage wasn't responsible for their modes , the only thing the sage gave them is the sun and moon seal .

Do u guys agree? I mean u can't deny this , the things that happened made it logical for them to unlock what they unlocked

I agree, but Sasuke got Hashirama's chakra from Hashirama himself while he got his DNA from Kabuto.

 

[Jokule67]

I can explain logically how Naruto and Sasuke received the powerups . Its not from Rikudo Sennin Otsutsuki Hagoromo-sama.

Ok Naruto took little chakra from each tailed beast Obito helped him to have the 8 and 1 tails chakra that was absent .

Naruto unlocked Rikudo Sage Mode from that logically speaking. He was so close to Juubi jinchuuriki

Now About Sasuke do u remember when Hashirama told Sasuke to stand before him to give him his chakra? Yup SENJU DNA + UCHIHA DNA= Rennigan.

But Sasuke didn't suddenly awaken it , when he was close to death like Old Madara he unlocked it which makes PERFECT sense. Plus Kabuto's chakra helped too.

The sage wasn't responsible for their modes , the only thing the sage gave them is the sun and moon seal .

Do u guys agree? I mean u can't deny this , the things that happened made it logical for them to unlock what they unlocked

The one thing Madara was missing was Six Paths Chakra(Hagos personal chakra). That is what was slowly forming(combining) until his would be death. Once Sasuke recieved Six Paths it sped his evolution up instantly.

Hagoromo provided RSM for Naruto and Rinnegan fot Sasuke indirectly but he knew it'd make their existing strengths more powerful. His chakra "changed" them for the better.

The Sage gave them Sun&Moon seals which spread chakra throughout their whole body abd transformed them.

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[Jokule67]

Hagoromo didn't need to be there in order for naruto and sasuke to have rsm and rinnegan
Obito knew what Bijuu power naruto needed and sasuke had hashi's dna and near death experience could have made sasuke awaken the rinnegan but Hago is apart of the story
So I somewhat agree it could have easily been written that obito and kabuto made naruto and sasuke awaken their powers in stead of hago

Without Six Paths they wouldnt have the same powers or be near as strong as they were. You are right though the story could have just gone on without Hagoromo. But they needed Six Paths for the Juubi Jin Madara

 

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[TheSages456]

Not sure how people are claiming that Naruto & Sasuke possess Hagoromo's Yin & Yang chakra when Kaguya's Byakugan clearly shows that the chakra was in the seals. Seems like stupidity.

Naruto's Six Paths Sage mode is the power of the Biju and before meeting Hagoromo, he could not use any of their powers. Therefore Hagoromo "gifted" him the form since without him, Biju 1-8 do not physically manifest inside Naruto.

In Sasuke's case, he only has Hagoromo's power in one of his eyes, which is why he has one Rinnegan and one Sharingan.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

*wears my filler goggles*

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

*wears my filler goggles*

Orange goggles :sdo:

 

[Opiuchus05]

Not sure how people are claiming that Naruto & Sasuke possess Hagoromo's Yin & Yang chakra when Kaguya's Byakugan clearly shows that the chakra was in the seals. Seems like stupidity.

Naruto's Six Paths Sage mode is the power of the Biju and before meeting Hagoromo, he could not use any of their powers. Therefore Hagoromo "gifted" him the form since without him, Biju 1-8 do not physically manifest inside Naruto.

In Sasuke's case, he only has Hagoromo's power in one of his eyes, which is why he has one Rinnegan and one Sharingan.

or maybe naruto wasnt able to use the other bijuus power because you need all bijuu chakra even if it's a portion

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[NextGenNinja]

Disagree, simply because of their feats. I really doubt sasuke can go from being able to parry with blind madara to the point where he cut shinju absorbed JJ madara in half, without any sort of enhancement. Rinnegan doesn't enhance reflexes and i doubt hashirama dna could give that much of a speed boast.

 

[Wparker6804]

Question: Do you guys agree?

Answer: No

Reason: Hagaromo clearly stated he gave them his chakra and not just seals

And when he appeared in front of the Hokages he said he couldn't do it himself since he gave his chakra away.

 

[SenseiSama]

Not sure how people are claiming that Naruto & Sasuke possess Hagoromo's Yin & Yang chakra when Kaguya's Byakugan clearly shows that the chakra was in the seals. Seems like stupidity.

Naruto's Six Paths Sage mode is the power of the Biju and before meeting Hagoromo, he could not use any of their powers. Therefore Hagoromo "gifted" him the form since without him, Biju 1-8 do not physically manifest inside Naruto.

In Sasuke's case, he only has Hagoromo's power in one of his eyes, which is why he has one Rinnegan and one Sharingan.

The seals were amplifying the chakra Hagoromo gave them, Rinnegan and RSM weren't a result of the seals but a result of Obito and Kabuto's actions.

Naruto and Sasuke both received the same Sage chakra but Naruto got RSM due to having the chakra of 9 bijuu while Sasuke got Rinnegan because his eyes were powered by Indra's chakra

The only thing the seals did was amplify Sasuke's Yin and Naruto's Yang, but in their prime they should be capable of the same feats the seals gave them at the time.

 

[Yang release]

Naruto RSM= narutos chakra+tailed beast chakra+ashuras chakra+hagaromo yang chakra

Sasuke rinnegan=sasuke chakra+indra chakra+ hagaromo yin chakra

 

[Troyg39]

It actually makes a lot of sense. The only thing is Sasuke and his Rinnegan. Uchiha+Senju dna doesn't equal Rinnegan. You need Ashura and Indra's or Hago's specifically according to Hago himself. It's possible that Hashirama still retained some of Ashura's chakra when revived as an Edo seeing as he clearly died before Naruto was born, meaning he died as a transmigrant.

Mix that stale Ashura chakra with some of Sasuke's fresh Indra chakra, and Rinnegan does make perfect sense.

Not bad dude I'm impressed with your manga interpretation skills

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Then again there's this^

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

It's Ashura's chakra + Indra's chakra = Rinnegan

Senju's DNA doesn't necessarily have to be involved.

The Sage gave them the seals which had in store their new powers. It was a gift from the sage. The only hing Obito and Kabuto did was made sure that they could come back because the Sage wasn't responsible for that.