Naruto and Sasuke VS Neji and Lee

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The only time she launched attack on him when he was trying to attack her with susanoo [ ] and got surprised when ash bone didn't kill him.
The reason she ignored him is his raikiri's damage isn't something she can't regenrate from.Kakashi is neither faster than RSM Naruto nor Rinnegan sasuke and both of them got were struggling to wound her with direct attck

So ur saying she could've simply killed Kakashi then and there or easily avoided him but decided to take random damage just because it could not harm her but would still put her in precarious positions that could've been avoided?

the reason neji is surprised there since he was confident that he can strike the main body [ ] and din'tcare aboy shadow clones in back that had started to poof away until the one in front poofed

I know , The point is that after using 360Dv beforehand , it was clearly not being used there a second later , not to mention there are other examples where 360Dv needed the mental input which literally proves that it isn't being used 24/7 simply because Byakugan is active. So why would Kaguya seeing Sakura but deciding to take random attacks make more sense than her simply not using 360Dv in that instance?
 
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So ur saying she could've simply killed Kakashi then and there but decided to take random damage just because it could not harm her?
No she let him strike him becoz she though she could absorb it but failed becoz of phasing property of kamui raikiri.
I know , The point is that after using 360Dv beforehand , it was clearly not being used there a second later , not to mention there are other examples where 360Dv needed the mental input which literally proves that it isn't being used 24/7 simply because Byakugan is active. So why Kaguya seeing Sakura but deciding to take random attacks make more sense than her simply not using 360Dv in that instance??
Eh becoz she though she can take the attack.
Madara taking 5th gated kurama enhaced lee's kick head which was as fast as frs dodged by chiyo becoz he could take it
 

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No she let him strike him becoz she though she could absorb it but failed becoz of phasing property of kamui raikiri.

That makes more sense but why wouldn't she still be able to absorb Raikiri since it becomes tangible to land the Hit?

Eh becoz she though she can take the attack.
Madara taking 5th gated kurama enhaced lee's kick head which was as fast as frs dodged by chiyo becoz he could take it

Taking the hit doesn't mean that it doesn't put her in a precarious position when she was already in one to make matters worse , which itself stemmed from random attacks and she was trying to avoid such situations so it makes no sense for her to be surprised at hearing Sakura shout if she already saw Sakura coming beforehand but at the end of the day plot is plot..
 

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That makes more sense but why wouldn't she still be able to absorb Raikiri since it becomes tangible to land the Hit?
since it warps away what it pierces to another dimension.you can't absorb ST jutsu
Taking the hit doesn't mean that it doesn't put her in a precarious position when she was already in one to make matters worse , which itself stemmed from random attacks and she was trying to avoid such situations so it makes no sense for her to be surprised at hearing Sakura shout if she already saw Sakura coming beforehand but at the end of the day plot is plot..
simple She didn't knew sakura's punch would send her tumbling down.
what r the chances of a char not indulging in fight to have a super strength
 

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since it warps away what it pierces to another dimension.you can't absorb ST jutsu

But it has to strike with Chakra covering the hand before it transports sections to another dimension unlike conventional ST jutsu no? So wouldn't the black chakra on the hand still be absorbable since the chakra needs to pierce before it warps?

simple She didn't knew sakura's punch would send her tumbling down.

what r the chances of a char not indulging in fight to have a super strength

Thats True which is why it doesn't make sense for her to want to take random attacks especially after just seeing Kakashi and why was she shocked at being aware of Sakura after the shout if she was already aware of her from the start?
 
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But it has to strike with Chakra covering the hand before it transports sections to another dimension unlike conventional ST jutsu no? So wouldn't the black chakra on the hand still be absorbable?
Since she absorbs the jutsu after it hits her aka no barrier like preta path.its done via physical contact.even if raikiri pierces her a llittle she would absorb it nonetheless.which is not the case with kamui raikiri
the moment raikiri hits her phasing will start and she won't be able absorb it
Thats True which is why it doesn't make sense for her to want to take random attacks especially after just seeing Kakashi and why was she shocked at being aware of Sakura after the shout if she was already aware of her from the start?
becoz sakura was keeping out of fight all the fight thus she knew she would be non factor.surprised most likely becoz she did not expect her to jump in
 

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Since she absorbs the jutsu after it hits her aka no barrier like preta path.its done via physical contact.even if raikiri pierces her a llittle she would absorb it nonetheless.which is not the case with kamui raikiri
the moment raikiri hits her phasing will start and she won't be able absorb it

So basically Kamui Raikiri ports away the struck area instantly instead of piercing it then porting it away?


surprised most likely becoz she did not expect her to jump in

True , im seeing now how kishi elaborately constructed the scenario..
 

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So basically Kamui Raikiri ports away the struck area instantly instead of piercing it then porting it away?
Its raikiri with kamui's so would make sense if phasing will start with the touch and completely porting of the stuck area will occur when its pierced
True , im seeing now how kishi elaborately constructed the scenario..

Yes even if we ignore Byakugan kaguya is a sensor with rikudo chakra so it won't make sense if she won't notice Sakura or anyone in the battlefield
 

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Its raikiri with kamui's so would make sense if phasing will start with the touch and completely porting of the stuck area will occur when its pierced

So basically Kamui Raikir instead of piercing in the traditional sense tho it still does , but instead just ports the area the blade touches? because if u look at the effects it doesn't seem like a wound that a normal Raikiri wouldn't be capable of , specically the size and shape of the wound..


Yes even if we ignore Byakugan kaguya is a sensor with rikudo chakra so it won't make sense if she won't notice Sakura or anyone in the battlefield

I know which is exactly why that whole situation never sat well with me but i do now see where ur coming from..
 
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Without the duo's final power-ups, this is actually a sweep.

I pray the Hamura statue is restricted?
 

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Stop. lmao. I read your post and it's irrelevant because you are ignoring what actually happened because you don't want to admit you are wrong.

touche

If it was basically a ranged gentle fist it would do internal damage no matter where it hit Kisame.

based on the databook and logic , it did

Kisame was not injured.

how can you be sure ?

Period. No injury was shown.

because the damage was internal :lol

internal : situated on the inside

so it would not be shown outside

All it did was blow him back.

saying that the wasn't powerful is dumb , because it was able to blow Kisame away , and Kisame was only able stable himself with the sword
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so you are telling me that the attack was powerful enough to be able to blow him meters away but it wasn't powerful enough to cause damage on him , ??!

wow , nice logic mate

"He was injured, but he shrugged off the pain" is based on nothing just like all your arguments. Doesn't matter where Kisame gets hit by Neji's Air Palm it still does negligible to no damage.

first of all Kisame has a great stamina , he was smiling when he tanked Bee's lariat ,
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I mean he was taking it easy

and he was able to break free right after he tanked a Hirudora and a full-forced 7th gate punch and he also bitten his tongue
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and he was also smiling when he was eaten by sharks , like WTF , does he even feel pain ? :|

and I know that the one that Neji struck was just a 30% chakra clone , but still , that doesn't change my point about Kisame's Stamina

Kisame's clone was able to tank many attacks from Gai , and he dealt with it with ease

you can't know if someone feels pain or not , because some can easily shrug the Pain off

take in example Itachi have felt unimaginable pain when he was using Susanoo , but he didn't look like he was damaged by Susanoo

Why do you people love to ignore what actually happened in favor of words that you are just misconstruing?

touche , now tell me what the **** did they meant "with aspects of the gentle fist" ?

Here are the facts:

-Gai>>Lee in the Manga.
-Toneri>>Neji in the Manga.
-Naruto or Sasuke>>Toneri or Gai.
-KCSM Naruto already beat Toneri. RSM>>BSM>>KCSM.
-Sasuke is on par with him.
-Gai and Neji can't get past Naruto and Sasuke's Avatars.
-They can't even survive a single BDFRS from Naruto let alone Naruto and Sasuke attacking together at full force.

agreed , Naruto and Sasuke stomps




BTW , I will tell you more about Toneri's attack later
 
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And please stop talking about the Ootsutsuki statue.

1. That is TONERI's summon. Not Neji. Neji is not Toneri. That is the Ootsutsuki Statue. Not the Hyuuga Statue. That summon has literally nothing to do with Tenseigan Chakra Mode besides the fact it's power was used to animate it.

2. It was overpowered by BSM Kurama. RSM Kurama>Sasuke's PS>>BSM Kurama.

3. It being able to regenerate from attacks that completely eradicate it is baseless.

4. It can't break out of Chibaku Tensei.

1. it is a Tenseigan summon :lol , try again

2. not quite , BSM Kurama got his ass pinned and was about to be finished , if not for Naruto defeating the Tenseigan user (Toneri) before

3. wrong ,it regenerated from BD , but it not being able to regenerate from attacks is baseless :lol

4.wrong , It was capable of manipulating the gravitational force to draw meteorites from its surroundings to rain down the moon's surface


The golem was able to fight hand-to-hand, and temporarily overwhelm Kurama, the strongest of the nine tailed beasts. It was durable enough to survive a Tailed Beast Ball launching it into orbit through the moon undamaged. It could also regenerate any damaged piece of its body, making it very difficult to defeat. It was also capable of manipulating the gravitational force to draw meteorites from its surroundings to rain down the moon's surface

the only way of defeating this summon , is by defeating the Tenseigan user , which is Neji in this case
 
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Does Neji even have the chakra to use the techniques associated with the Tenseigan?
 

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Does Neji even have the chakra to use the techniques associated with the Tenseigan?

nope , but if he gained it , he would sure be powerful , but it is just a fan idea ,

RIP Neji T^T
 

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one thing I want to point out , Neji did indeed damage Kisame , but Kisame was able to heal himself the moment he touched his sword

"evidence..?"

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as you can see here ,when Kisame was stoke by V2 Jin Bee's larait , Kisame increased his Stamina the moment he touched the sword

the same thing can be said in Neji's case
 

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I don't remember samehada eating anyone's chakra before he got hit by neji's Vaccum palm
So whose chakra r u saying it used for healing
 

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I don't remember samehada eating anyone's chakra before he got hit by neji's Vaccum palm
So whose chakra r u saying it used for healing

good point ,

he could've sucked a little bit of Gai's chakra here
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or he had already stored chakra in samehada ,

anyway it just a theory , even if Kisame didn't heal himself , he can still shrug off a pain in the guts
 

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good point ,

he could've sucked a little bit of Gai's chakra here
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or he had already stored chakra in samehada ,

anyway it just a theory , even if Kisame didn't heal himself , he can still shrug off a pain in the guts

Samehada did not even come close to gai nor there is a remote sign of chakra absorption. Also gai mainly uses non chakra based taijutsu without gates.

What that was a 30% clone of kisame and copy of his samehada :|
 

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Samehada did not even come close to gai nor there is a remote sign of chakra absorption. Also gai mainly uses non chakra based taijutsu without gates.

What that was a 30% clone of kisame and copy of his samehada :|

ok , doesn't this copy of Samehada has the same feats of the original Samehada ? :hmm:

like , maybe there was some chakra absorbed inside of it or something ,

anyway , it is just a theory
 

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ok , doesn't this copy of Samehada has the same feats of the original Samehada ? :hmm:

like , maybe there was some chakra absorbed inside of it or something ,

anyway , it is just a theory

Yes it does but nothing remotely suggest kisame would prep samheda's copy with chakra eh
 
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