Naruto and Sasuke might not be equal.

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Yhh I agree. Sasuke also went to target him as he has the ability to reach him. I agree, I don't see how that chapter makes sasuke much inferior. sasuke can add enton to his ps blade to increase its lethality, imagine a ps mountain enton sword slahes, not to mention his arrows which would be have shockwaves as well. Then there is his teleportic ability, he can combined that with his ps, sasuke is way haxx just like naruto is.
Yea so much potential but little time to showcase it. Bolded - you know sasuke haters, don't read what's actually on the page but their brain makes up something completely different to keep themselves happy.
 

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What's his offensive power? A bdrs that destroyed a rock? Sasuke slice about two so what's the big deal, how does his make sasuke look irrelevant? Sasuke ps can produce a similar destructive force. He's facing the clones because obv he has his own clones to match them? Sasuke doesn't use clones which is why he decided to take care of the rocks that were coming mid air and his was doing a pretty good job at that. Just because naruto throws some nukes with great aoe you lot all claim he's much superior forgetting that power isn't everything. Its not too long ago when sasuke ability left naruto and madara shocked, naruto didn't even grasp what the hell sasuke did. What does that tell u? Sasuke doesn't have to match narutos destructive force to be superiror to him, his hax S t ability more than makes up for it, now combine that ability with a flying Ps with mountain slashes then you literally have a monster. In fact your post made me rethink, they are not equal, sasuke is actually superior imo.

The manga has demonstrably proven that Naruto is stronger than Sasuke, and it has continued to do so in 676. Sasuke's efforts did not produce similar results. If anything, this panel clearly shows that.
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As cool as his Susanoo is, it's clearly not up to par in terms of destructive capacity as Naruto's Bijūdama Rasenshuriken. Notice how many slices the Chibaku Tensei orbs he managed to destroy. And he only destroyed three even though Naruto easily destroyed more.

The ease with which Naruto produced results in comparison to Sasuke cannot be understated. He simply creates the Bijūdama Rasenshuriken and chucks it. Just like that. As if it's a regular Rasengan like the ones he used to create when he was a kid.
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This whole "Naruto = Sasuke" narrative some NB posters have adopted is inaccurate pablum to curtail valid debate amongst Naruto and Sasuke proponents. "Naruto's is Ying, Sasuke is Yang, so they're equals" - no, they're not. They've never been equals. Sasuke was stronger than Naruto when they were kids (not counting jinchūriki buffs), and for a considerable time of Part II, but that obviously reversed around the time Naruto beat Nagato, and the gap has continued to widen.

SM Naruto >> Sasuke (Pein Arc)
KCM Naruto >>> EMS Sasuke
BM Naruto >>>>> EMS Sasuke

And it's going to stay way. Don't bother bringing up the brothers. We already know Hashirama was clearly stronger than Madara, and from the subtext of the manga we can also assume Ashura surpassed Indra since he inherited ninshū, and if that wasn't the case and Indra was still stronger than Ashura, my points remain either way. The reincarnations of the brothers do not necessarily have to be equal. Perhaps some of Indra's incarnations were stronger and vice-versa. Going by the facts of the manga, Naruto is clearly stronger than Sasuke.
 
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The manga has demonstrably proven that Naruto is stronger than Sasuke, and it has continued to do in 676. Sasuke's efforts did not produce similar results. If anything, this panel clearly shows that.
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As cool as his Susanoo is, it's clearly not up to par in terms of destructive capacity as Naruto's Bijūdama Rasenshuriken. Notice how many slices the Chibaku Tensei orbs he managed to destroy. And he only destroyed three even though Naruto easily destroyed more.

The ease with which Naruto produced results in comparison to Sasuke cannot be understated. He simply creates the Bijūdama Rasenshuriken and chucks it. Just like that. As if it's a regular Rasengan like the ones he used to create when he was a kid.
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This whole "Naruto = Sasuke" narrative some NB posters have adopted is inaccurate pablum to curtail valid debate amongst Naruto and Sasuke proponents. "Naruto's is Ying, Sasuke is Yang, so they're equals" - no, they're not. They've never been equals. Sasuke was stronger than Naruto when they were kids (not counting jinchūriki buffs), and for a considerable time of Part II, but that obviously reversed around the time Naruto beat Nagato, and the gap has continued to widen.

SM Naruto >> Sasuke (Pein Arc)
KCM Naruto >>> EMS Sasuke
BM Naruto >>>>> EMS Sasuke

And it's going to stay way. Don't bother bringing up the brothers. We already know Hashirama was clearly stronger than Madara, and from the subtext of the manga we can also assume Ashura surpassed Indra since he inherited ninshū, and if that wasn't the case and Indra was still stronger than Ashura, my points remain either way. The reincarnations of the brothers do not necessarily have to be equal. Perhaps some of Indra's incarnations were stronger and vice-versa. Going by the facts of the manga, Naruto is clearly stronger than Sasuke.

Narutos bijuu dama wasn't effortless and Sasuke using Susanoo produced more results. He destroyed 2 in time it took Naruto to destroy one. Naruto will have to sit on the ground now, while Sasuke took the time to fly closer to the target being able to destroy more at a faster pace.

I'm not sure if you're trolling but do you believe whoever destroyed the most rocks determines whos stronger? Trololol. All tailed beasts have bijuu dama, so because Naruto can use it you'd probably think Bee > Sasuke as well? That panel doesn't show anything besides that Sasuke is ahead of Naruto. He has yet to activate his bijuu mode but somehow he's above current Sasuke by feats? Somehow he's shown a technique Sasuke can't counter? No.


At the times when Naruto had caught up Sasuke has always surpassed him immediately. SM Naruto was not greater than a full powered MS Sasuke. When he gained EMS he had already obtained armored v4 Susanoo and that alone trumps KCM. Naruto didn't get catch up to Sasuke until he gained BM where Sasuke had already gained complete Susanoo. Your only real basis is this war arc where Kishi kept most of Sasukes powers hidden until the end. Yet Complete Susanoo was shown to fight on par with BSM Naruto and Sasuke didn't have activate Perfect Susanoo.



As for now, Sasuke has shown to be putting up more of a fight against Madara. Analyzing his techs and casually making the 1st strikes as well. His Rinnegan tech alone puts Naruto in a difficult situation and he still has more to shown. Honestly any vs thread between them is in Sasukes favor because he already caught Madara off guard in two situations. Naruto is at the disadvantage.
 

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SM Naruto >> Sasuke (Pein Arc)
KCM Naruto >>> EMS Sasuke
BM Naruto >>>>> EMS Sasuke

And it's going to stay way. Don't bother bringing up the brothers. We already know Hashirama was clearly stronger than Madara, and from the subtext of the manga we can also assume Ashura surpassed Indra since he inherited ninshū, and if that wasn't the case and Indra was still stronger than Ashura, my points remain either way. The reincarnations of the brothers do not necessarily have to be equal. Perhaps some of Indra's incarnations were stronger and vice-versa. Going by the facts of the manga, Naruto is clearly stronger than Sasuke.
How flawed is your logic? Firstly SM naruto < MS sasuke do you want me to show you a scan where naruto admits he cannot defeat sasuke on his own, he needs kurama.
Also EMS sasuke = BSM naruto or did you not see the kyuubi wrapped in susanoo. That looks equal to me. You can say
BSM naruto > EMS sasuke but BSM naruto = EMS sasuke with cursed seal.
Also using hashirama is stronger than madara is weak. They have nothing to do with naruto and sasuke lol. Finally you can't assume ashura was stronger than indra just coz he was chosen as the sosp disciple. The sosp chose ashura for his legacy not coz he was stronger.

Are you even reading the same manga damn
 

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The manga has demonstrably proven that Naruto is stronger than Sasuke, and it has continued to do so in 676. Sasuke's efforts did not produce similar results. If anything, this panel clearly shows that.
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As cool as his Susanoo is, it's clearly not up to par in terms of destructive capacity as Naruto's Bijūdama Rasenshuriken. Notice how many slices the Chibaku Tensei orbs he managed to destroy. And he only destroyed three even though Naruto easily destroyed more.

The ease with which Naruto produced results in comparison to Sasuke cannot be understated. He simply creates the Bijūdama Rasenshuriken and chucks it. Just like that. As if it's a regular Rasengan like the ones he used to create when he was a kid.
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This whole "Naruto = Sasuke" narrative some NB posters have adopted is inaccurate pablum to curtail valid debate amongst Naruto and Sasuke proponents. "Naruto's is Ying, Sasuke is Yang, so they're equals" - no, they're not. They've never been equals. Sasuke was stronger than Naruto when they were kids (not counting jinchūriki buffs), and for a considerable time of Part II, but that obviously reversed around the time Naruto beat Nagato, and the gap has continued to widen.

SM Naruto >> Sasuke (Pein Arc)
KCM Naruto >>> EMS Sasuke
BM Naruto >>>>> EMS Sasuke

And it's going to stay way. Don't bother bringing up the brothers. We already know Hashirama was clearly stronger than Madara, and from the subtext of the manga we can also assume Ashura surpassed Indra since he inherited ninshū, and if that wasn't the case and Indra was still stronger than Ashura, my points remain either way. The reincarnations of the brothers do not necessarily have to be equal. Perhaps some of Indra's incarnations were stronger and vice-versa. Going by the facts of the manga, Naruto is clearly stronger than Sasuke.

Narutos attack is bulit on raw force while sasuke is more of slashing obv with a sword so the attack results would be diffrent as they are two different kinds of attacks so it doesn't prove that narutos own was superior at all. sasuke stil was slicing them easily so I don't see how narutos attack makes him stronger. And your comparisons were wrong. Ms sasuke is actually stronger than Sm naruto, sasukes enton v4 soosano or his jumping v3 beats down narutos kcm. As for Bsm, sasuke had Ps so no naruto was not superior.
 

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The manga has demonstrably proven that Naruto is stronger than Sasuke, and it has continued to do so in 676. Sasuke's efforts did not produce similar results. If anything, this panel clearly shows that.
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As cool as his Susanoo is, it's clearly not up to par in terms of destructive capacity as Naruto's Bijūdama Rasenshuriken. Notice how many slices the Chibaku Tensei orbs he managed to destroy. And he only destroyed three even though Naruto easily destroyed more.

The ease with which Naruto produced results in comparison to Sasuke cannot be understated. He simply creates the Bijūdama Rasenshuriken and chucks it. Just like that. As if it's a regular Rasengan like the ones he used to create when he was a kid.
You must be registered for see images

This whole "Naruto = Sasuke" narrative some NB posters have adopted is inaccurate pablum to curtail valid debate amongst Naruto and Sasuke proponents. "Naruto's is Ying, Sasuke is Yang, so they're equals" - no, they're not. They've never been equals. Sasuke was stronger than Naruto when they were kids (not counting jinchūriki buffs), and for a considerable time of Part II, but that obviously reversed around the time Naruto beat Nagato, and the gap has continued to widen.

SM Naruto >> Sasuke (Pein Arc)
KCM Naruto >>> EMS Sasuke
BM Naruto >>>>> EMS Sasuke

And it's going to stay way. Don't bother bringing up the brothers. We already know Hashirama was clearly stronger than Madara, and from the subtext of the manga we can also assume Ashura surpassed Indra since he inherited ninshū, and if that wasn't the case and Indra was still stronger than Ashura, my points remain either way. The reincarnations of the brothers do not necessarily have to be equal. Perhaps some of Indra's incarnations were stronger and vice-versa. Going by the facts of the manga, Naruto is clearly stronger than Sasuke.
This post is idiotic
 
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