[Theory] Naruto and Sasuke Have Lost Thier Hagoromo Chakra

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During the chapter we have seen that Sasuke lost his special tomoed rinnegan.

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And we haven't seen Naruto use his RSM. Which leads me to believe that they have used up their sage chakra over the years. I'm assuming that Naruto can still get help from the other tailed beasts but he can't fly nor create TSB for protection anymore. And Sasuke lost his speed and power that allowed him to catch up to Naruto during the Kaguya days.

I guess this is a huge asspull but we can't have Naruto and Sasuke in their demi god forms, then no one wouyld ever be able to take them down (until they are dead ofc)

And for those saying that it was dumb how Sasuke's sword stabbed him in BSM, I would like to mention that is was the effect of a MS that caused the sword to go through him. And as we all now, MS abilities are pretty OP.

So lets save the anger until after the series is done. Seeya guys next week.
 

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1# if u can't lose bijuu chakra then u can't lose Hagoromo's chakra

2# Hagoromo's chakra is displayed in Naruto's RSM and Sasuke's rinnegan.

The sign of Naruto's RSM is that he lacks the sage markings as he has the past few chapters meaning that Naruto is in RSM.

Another thing ppl don't seem to get is that the rinnegan itself has Hagoromo's chakra. All of them do. So the fact that Sasuke has rinnegan means that he has rikudou chakra.

The tomoe were onlyrics there because Hagoromo gave Sasuke the rinnegan and it was combined with Sasuke's sharingan turning it into a unique variation of rinnegan
 

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1# if u can't lose bijuu chakra then u can't lose Hagoromo's chakra

2# Hagoromo's chakra is displayed in Naruto's RSM and Sasuke's rinnegan.

The sign of Naruto's RSM is that he lacks the sage markings as he has the past few chapters meaning that Naruto is in RSM.

Another thing ppl don't seem to get is that the rinnegan itself has Hagoromo's chakra. All of them do. So the fact that Sasuke has rinnegan means that he has rikudou chakra.

The tomoe were onlyrics there because Hagoromo gave Sasuke the rinnegan and it was combined with Sasuke's sharingan turning it into a unique variation of rinnegan
#1 Naruto can lose his bijuu chakra. He just has to get it back by visiting their meeting place. Keep in mind that this is all speculation, if you have proof then please share it.

#2 I agree that his chakra is displayed in RSM but not the rinnegan. I believe he got it when Kabuto healed him. He was near death and Kabuto gave him his cells which contained Hashi DNA. So when Hago gave him half of his chakra it upgraded his rinnegan just as how Hago upgraded his BSM into RSM. Once again all speculation, if you have the proof then feel free to share.
 

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After this chapter, I won't put it pass kishi to say they lost their chakra. Certainly I didn't see high speed shunshin rivaling a Juubijin or reactions comparable to the events in manga(Naruto).
 

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#1 Naruto can lose his bijuu chakra. He just has to get it back by visiting their meeting place. Keep in mind that this is all speculation, if you have proof then please share it.

#2 I agree that his chakra is displayed in RSM but not the rinnegan. I believe he got it when Kabuto healed him. He was near death and Kabuto gave him his cells which contained Hashi DNA. So when Hago gave him half of his chakra it upgraded his rinnegan just as how Hago upgraded his BSM into RSM. Once again all speculation, if you have the proof then feel free to share.
The bijuu can be the meeting place for the bijuu because he has their chakra. Ergo if he didn't have it the bijuu would lose their meeting place.

Also it is already stated in the DB that Hagoromo gave Sasuke the rinnegan. That much is factual.
 
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The bijuu can be the meeting place for the bijuu because he has their chakra. Ergo if he didn't have it the bijuu would lose their meeting place.

Also it is already stated in the DB that Hagoromo gave Sasuke the rinnegan. That much is factual.
Okay you have a point with the bijuu chakra. Can you ecplain why Sasuke lost his tomoe then? It shouldn't have disappeared from his eye. My explaniation is that he simply lost his sage chakra.

And the DB says ALOT of interesting things xD
 

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Okay you have a point with the bijuu chakra. Can you ecplain why Sasuke lost his tomoe then? It shouldn't have disappeared from his eye. My explaniation is that he simply lost his sage chakra.

And the DB says ALOT of interesting things xD
The most plausible conclusion is that it is just an art screw up. It is weird though. Besides Sasuke's rinnegan Naruto's cloak should have a bunch of tomoe yet Kishi left them all off :wesobi:
 

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During the chapter we have seen that Sasuke lost his special tomoed rinnegan.

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And we haven't seen Naruto use his RSM. Which leads me to believe that they have used up their sage chakra over the years. I'm assuming that Naruto can still get help from the other tailed beasts but he can't fly nor create TSB for protection anymore. And Sasuke lost his speed and power that allowed him to catch up to Naruto during the Kaguya days.

I guess this is a huge asspull but we can't have Naruto and Sasuke in their demi god forms, then no one wouyld ever be able to take them down (until they are dead ofc)

And for those saying that it was dumb how Sasuke's sword stabbed him in BSM, I would like to mention that is was the effect of a MS that caused the sword to go through him. And as we all now, MS abilities are pretty OP.

So lets save the anger until after the series is done. Seeya guys next week.
How does someone lose speed? And I doubt his tomoe Rinnegan is gone those tomoes made him able to use amaterasu with Rinnegan and PS still without switching back and forth.
 

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Maybe they only appear when he uses MS, or it could be that the tomoe were a sign that Hagoromo gave them his chakra, explaining why Naruto had them on his collar, then when the chakra disappeared or they used it all, the tomoe went with it, showcasing the chakra being no longer there. The abilities are still there after all, but the chakra isn't, and I believe that's because once you gain an ability, you keep it(and i consider the rinnegan an ability as well as teleporting/switch places thing Sasuke does or the biju thing with Naruto), but like all chakra, it dispels and disappears, and since its Hagoromo's, they can't gain it back without him giving it to them, which he won't. The RSM cloak is also likely to have disappeared since the chakra ran out, but Naruto kept the ability to use RSM. Or, it could just be Kishi being Kishi, nerfing the hell out of character, with the exception of Sakura
 

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The tomoe missing from Sasuke's Rinnegan is probably a drawing mistake. It happened here, too.


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