Naruto and sasuke have a long way to go

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That is pretty obvious , but just how far?
well there is a lot i have to talk about if you guys will actually read the whole thing.

Firstly: Naruto's power ups.

As we know Minato sealed half of Kurama's chakra inside of him , this type of chakra was the Yin half of Kurama's chakra , and Naruto currently possesses the Yang chakra
this could be why Naruto's Bijuu mode looks like this:
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and not this:
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why else would he differ so much from all the other jinchuuriki?

Naruto's KM and BM have so much nature energy that they can affect wood style and cause it to grow trees (this comes in handy later)

Yin:
The Yin Release techniques, based on the spiritual energy that governs the imagination, can be used to create form out of nothingness.

Yang:
techniques, based on the physical energy that governs vitality, can be used to breathe life into form.

Now then here is where it gets juicy

Every Kage has been resurrected for a predestined purpose other than talking to sasuke , i am not going to list all these purposes , but for one i believe Minato's purpose was to transfer the Yin chakra back to Naruto and Kurama.
and then naruto will not only be more powerful , but he will also assist Hashirama in his purpose which will be to take down Edo Madara (by increasing the power of woodstyle using Kurama's Yang chakra it will help defeat Edo Madara whom i believe is stronger than an un-altered Hashirama Edo).

The advantages this will give naruto are:
-Bijuu Mode Naruto's body is still that of a human being , it is far more frail than Kurama's , but with Kurama's body he will be much less vulnerable to powerful attacks , remember that only a half powered Kurama could block this quite easily:
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or depending on if he maintains his current BM style:

-Naruto's speed is based on his chakra , thus that is why naruto is extremely fast in KM and BM , with double the chakra , He could be even faster and speed blitz anyone (including a shinobi in 7th gate).

and finally:
With the two halfs of Yin and Yang , the power that governs energy ad vitality accompanied with the power to govern imagination , he will possibly have
Yin-Yang
The Yin–Yang Release techniques make simultaneous use of Yin Release and Yang Release. Yin relates to one's spiritual energy and Yang relates to one's physical energy and it's necessary to utilise both of these in order to mould chakra for ninjutsu. According to Yamato, the manipulation of Yin and Yang is the source of non-elemental techniques such as the Shadow Imitation Technique, Multi-Size Technique, medical ninjutsu, genjutsu, etc. - NarutoWikia

every ninja has Yin and Yang , but with quantities this high , naruto could do A LOT of jutsu , i cannot specify a list , but a suggestion would be the Banbotsu Sozu , please hear me out.

The Sage of the Six Paths had such a mastery over the Yin–Yang Release that he used Yin to make his dreams take form, and then used Yang to make his fantasies real. He could even make them come to life. According to Tobi, the Sage's ability was called Creation of All Things (万物創造, Banbutsu Sōzō), which he employed to create the tailed beasts out of the chakra from the Ten-Tails.

i know it sounds ridiculous , but this isnt a rinnegan ability , and therefore he COULD actually use this jutsu (with severe limitations obviously , he wont be as powerful as the sage , but with this he can surpass Hashirama and become the strongest and greatest hokage).

And like said in the spoilers , he could use this jutsu to divide the Juubi and remake the tailed beasts and re-use them for peace like the 1st hokage and sage wanted.

Naruto still needs some more powers to keep up with Sasuke (not now , but from his future powerups below).
And i have no proof or reasoning for this , but Naruto to become the greatest user of Fuuton.
With over the top wind jutsu like a leaf cutting jutsu (when he cut leaf's in his hands) on a massive scale , like a never ending invisible wind sword (like Gin ichimaru's bankai
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) and maybe even the very power to wield the wind to his bidding completely).

Sasuke Power ups:

Like i said before each hokage was resurrected with a predestined purpose , as seen here
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Sasuke will have to fight Tobirama before destroying the leaf , knowing Sasuke he will still stick to his promises and attack the leaf , and with this expect Hiruzen will fight Orochimaru and the rest of Taka , Tobirama will fight Sasuke , but due to plot no jutsu the leaf will not be eradicated and Sasuke will not die , therefore we must conclude that Sasuke will win , but be so frail afterwards he is near to death and wont be capable of destroying the village.

Sasuke could however have his free sample of Senju DNA (now you know where this is going , he going to become a living version of Edo madara minus the Mokuton).

Sasuke will then Obtain the rinnegan and be capable to use the powers of the 6 paths.


Animal Path
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, summonings without hand seals, these summonings can be very difficult to deal with.

Asura Path
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, ability to summon mechanical/robot body parts onto him , also has the element of surprise and can also be very good defencively or offencively for sasuke.

Deva Path
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, Shinra tensei and Bansho Tenin would be perfect for sasuke , he could become the ultimate defencive shinobi , perfect susano'o. I doubt he will be able to perform Chibaku Tensei as his chakra isnt exactly OP bijuu level+ like Naruto , Hashirama and Tobirama or Madara or Nagato.

Human Path
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, i dont see why he would need this , but if it increases taijutsu skills further then why not?

Naraka Path
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, its not Sasuke's style to use this kind of technique , but i can certainly seeing him use it to instantly heal himself.

Preta Path
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counter to bijuu modes speed, by absorbing portions of chakra Sasuke can weaken Naruto and bring him down a few rungs on the ladder to actually make him fightable. A good back up if Susano'o is broken through.

and the last bit (if you read this far i praise you):
Perfect susano'o , Sasuke will perfect his , and his will be superior to madara's. His will use an Amaterasu sword and shield alike this:
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(totsuka blade and yata mirror , he can probably attain these with a mask or something like that from the temple ,havent thought this through but i am sure he will get them for his susano'o and coat them in Amaterasu Flames)
 

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Not really, Naruto surpassed EMS Madara already, but I'm not sure about Hashi.
Sasuke is my favorite character but he does have a little while to go...but if he does have Totsuka and Yata he's there then. :y
 

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It's all pretty much speculation but you have some good points mentioned and it would be awesome to see some of it occur. The question is, could all of that be accomplished before the manga ends?
 

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It's all pretty much speculation but you have some good points mentioned and it would be awesome to see some of it occur. The question is, could all of that be accomplished before the manga ends?
i strongly believe that after the war will be another 150 chapters , we will only see these abilities unveil in the grand finale of Naruto vs Sasuke
 

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Wuah so long but I did read all :ghehe: wow sound plausible and both will get power up like u said xd
 

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i strongly believe that after the war will be another 150 chapters , we will only see these abilities unveil in the grand finale of Naruto vs Sasuke

That will be an epic fight if it happens, and 150 would cover everything if Kishimoto intends to drag it out that long. People think it's almost over, but as you pointed out, both Naruto and Sasuke have a long way to go and it's only really just beginning for them regarding their true power, as well as much plot that's no where near being wrapped up.
 

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That will be an epic fight if it happens, and 150 would cover everything if Kishimoto intends to drag it out that long. People think it's almost over, but as you pointed out, both Naruto and Sasuke have a long way to go and it's only really just beginning for them regarding their true power, as well as much plot that's no where near being wrapped up.
^^ Seems we agree quite strongly , i think that Gaara will also have his chance to shine and power up to atleast current Naruto's level
 

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Kurama says that he is able to resonate with His chakra so well cuz he is Kushina's son



BOOM , goes the theory
 

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Kurama says that he is able to resonate with His chakra so well cuz he is Kushina's son
BOOM , goes the theory

Two different types of chakra , one which once he lost he could never regain , Kurama is at Half of his power , or if he is at full power now , what will he be like with 1.5x his original power?! exactly , he will still become stronger.
 

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^^ Seems we agree quite strongly , i think that Gaara will also have his chance to shine and power up to atleast current Naruto's level

Yes, it looks like we do. :)

That's another good point, the Kages are supposed to be revived by Tsunade but it's been awhile since we heard from them. It's implied they'll survive and Gaara's time to shine would definitely aid in this war, as well as the remaining Konoha 11 reaching a new level of power.

I also think Karin has to have some role in all of this, being an Uzumaki and all, she might play a part in Sasuke's power gain.
 

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Certainly Sasuke doesn't have chackra stable enough to manipulate the Rinnegan. Power ups on Sasuke's part is just plain ridiculous imo
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I don't like Sasuke getting the Rinnegan. I think he should get the Elder Son's Dojutsu and PS (Stabilized).
 

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this could be why Naruto's Bijuu mode looks like this:
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and not this:
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why else would he differ so much from all the other jinchuuriki?

Well, that part is incorrect. ->

Otherwise I agree, they have big room for improvement.
 

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i think you are right about naruto, but i think sasuke will get

DSM
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rennigan, secret abilitys from rennigan
yata/tuka
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Well, that part is incorrect. ->

Otherwise I agree, they have big room for improvement.

the more physical muscles etc. in your thread and colouring etc. was the hatred of Kurama
 

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the more physical muscles etc. in your thread and colouring etc. was the hatred of Kurama

Thats funny idea with no indications from manga to back it up. Does Narutos chakra cloack resembles Sages silhuette also becuase he has only half of Kuramas chakra sealed inside him? Did Kurama started to look ethereal when Minato sealed his Yang chakra? Nope, he only becuase smaller.
 

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Thats funny idea with no indications from manga to back it up. Does Narutos chakra cloack resembles Sages silhuette also becuase he has only half of Kuramas chakra sealed inside him? Did Kurama started to look ethereal when Minato sealed his Yang chakra? Nope, he only becuase smaller.
The silhouette forshadows that Naruto is the sages second coming and will save the world , as said above ^^ possibly with banbotsu sozo , it is nothing more than kishi's way of hinting , and half the chakra gave it a reason to look different.
 

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The silhouette forshadows that Naruto is the sages second coming and will save the world

Possibly, and look of his Bijuu form foreshadows the same. If lacking of Yang chakra was the reason, Kurama would start looking ethereal in the moment when Minato sealed it away.
Naruto, yes.

Sasuke, no.

What, do you mean he will stay weak compared to the strongest guys? Currently, hes much weaker than Naruto, let alone shinobis stronger than blondie.
 

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Possibly, and look of his Bijuu form foreshadows the same. If lacking of Yang chakra was the reason, Kurama would start looking ethereal in the moment when Minato sealed it away.
Good question , but there is no other logical explanation , kishi has a lot to write to explain everything
 
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