[Predictions] Naruto and Sasuke both die, complete the cycle.

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Hi there, everyone.

First time posting here, although certainly not the first time I have discussed my predictions regarding the Naruto series, online or otherwise.

So my theory is this: I believe that the Naruto/Sasuke final battle will be the culmination of a cycle begun by the SO6P. I'm not a religious person in any way, but I am beginning to notice parallels between some of the story of Naruto and various religious lore. I wont go in to detail about the religious lore, I'll try to keep in on Naruto :cool:

So the SO6P creates all Ninjutsu right? Before he came along shinobi just didn't exist. So he is basically the creator god, the initial being from which everything (important in naruto) came. Then, after his death he passes two parts of himself onto the next generation. His body, to the Senju and his eyes, to the Uchiha.

The Uzumaki clan are noted to be relatives of the Senju clan. This I think is highlighted, I think, in a recent issue in which Tobi remarks, on numerous occasions, about how Naruto is powerful is because he is an Uzumaki. Which means that both Naruto and Sasuke are descended from the SO6P himself.

I predict that in the final battle this will be a key factor. That Naruto and Sasuke, who, like Madara and Hashirama, are two powerful 'halves' of the power of the SO6P will be crucial in the final battle. In the end Naruto and Sasuke will be the sole surviving descendants of the SO6P.

I believe there will be a coming together of the two, perhaps in a manner similar to when they fought after Sasuke fought Danzo, in the moment before they both strike. Or maybe even fighting for a common cause (against the 10 tails maybe? It took the SO6P to stop it last time...)

In this last meeting a believe they will be united, completing the cycle started by the SO6P. Their deaths will be reflective of the final sacrafice that "Jesus" (A descendent of god) made, completing prophecy and bringing peace and forgiveness to the world. The whole concept of the selfless sacrifice and uniting of two halves appears in multiple religions, ancient and modern. Their death/unity will mean that there are no more SO6P descendants and the power, which was divided will have come full circle to be united once more. And the era, whose history has revolved around the So6P, will end, ushering in a new era free of his influence (possibly even no more ninjas? New 'evolved' form of Ninjutsu emerges?)

Anyway, feel free to pick this apart, agree, disagree or troll. I don't really want to talk about the religious side of things on here as that will just lead to flame wars, lets keep it naruto (or PM me if you have something to add or discuss regarding these parallels, as long as you can do so without flaming).
 
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Uchiha Josephus

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First, welcome to Narutobase!!! :D

Second - Interesting thoughts there. It's a possibility I guess cause you never know with Kishi xd

My only qualm with all of this is that I don't think the SO6P "created" chakra, I think he just discovered it and its use.

That being said - I don't think that everyone will just "forget" about chakra all of a sudden at the end of the series.

But hey, you never know :)
 

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I always thought Kishimoto was a Buddhist given how Asuma had that multiple hands technique.
 

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good theory especially because naruto said when they fight they both will die. He never said how lol
 

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I always thought Kishimoto was a Buddhist given how Asuma had that multiple hands technique.



There are many examples of characters whose techniques demonstrate links with different religious and spiritual symbols. Hidan's techniques seemed to be influenced by voodoo, for instance. Whereas the Sharingan techniques (Ameterasu, Tsukuyomi and Susanoo) seem to be related to Shinto beliefs (I think, correct me if I'm wrong.
 

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Well, wasn't the SO6P the first to USE and UNDERSTAND chakra? I don't think he created chakra, so I do not think there will be no more ninjas if Naruto and Sasuke have a battle where both dies.

Some people now do even think that the Byakugan is closer to the Uchiha ancestors eyes, than the sharingan, and that the Byakugan is actually stronger, but no one have discovered it's real power yet. So maybe the fight should be between an Uzumaki and a Hyuuga?

But either way, I do not think that all ninja/ninjutsu activity will stop because of a fight between the ancestors, since SO6P wasn't the creator. But if the ancestors would end up dying in a fight between eachother, i'm pretty sure something extraordinary will happen, but what, I have no idea of.
 

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Welcome to the base !!
and the theory will have a dramatic end i guess !!
 

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Not a bad idea, and certainly possible. But there's one small issue, Naruto wouldn't be the last descendant of the Sage. He's considered a descendant because the Uzumaki are an offshoot of the Senju, which means they have similar genes. This also means that Karin (who was just revealed to be an Uzumaki) could be considered a descendant of the Sage.
 

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Well, wasn't the SO6P the first to USE and UNDERSTAND chakra? I don't think he created chakra, so I do not think there will be no more ninjas if Naruto and Sasuke have a battle where both dies.

Some people now do even think that the Byakugan is closer to the Uchiha ancestors eyes, than the sharingan, and that the Byakugan is actually stronger, but no one have discovered it's real power yet. So maybe the fight should be between an Uzumaki and a Hyuuga?

But either way, I do not think that all ninja/ninjutsu activity will stop because of a fight between the ancestors, since SO6P wasn't the creator. But if the ancestors would end up dying in a fight between eachother, i'm pretty sure something extraordinary will happen, but what, I have no idea of.

Sorry, did I say Chakra? I meant to say Ninjutsu! Chakra is a natural thing that I'm sure existed for as long as the naruto universe has. The SO6P is credited with the invention of the Shinobi, as we know it, in the Naruto Universe.

As for the Byakugan theory I honestly don't buy into it. I mean certainly, it's a theory that I enjoyed reading and maybe is even the truth. My concern lies in the fact that, for all intents and purposes, Naruto will be over soon (probably in the next two years or so) and I don't think Kishi is likely to reveal any more revelations in relation to Dojutsu unless it's specifically about the Sharingan and it's relationship with the Rinnegan. Nor do I think that Naruto will get the Rinnegan, the very basis of Naruto is the concept of the two halves, the eyes and the body. If Naruto got the Rinnegan it would throw the whole juxtaposition of himself and Sasuke.

I agree with your last point although I think that Ninjutsu as we know it will cease. As in it will evolve during or as a result of the conflict and it's nature will be different.




Also, in response to your post, Typhon; I hadn't really thought about Karin. That is an excellent point. Although I also think she will die before the end as well either by Sasuke or Tobi. I think either her or Sakura will be involved in the final conflict, I imagine both given that they have so many of the same qualities, they are more or less a mirror image. They will most likely both have a part to play before the end of the story!

Thanks for the responses everyone!
 

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First of All, Welcome!

Second of All, Great Theory. I assume something simular will happen as well. I love to see predictions that arent too far fetched.

Last of All... Just an FYI. Christian believe that Jesus IS God, not just a "descendent" of some sort. They are the same, two parts of One being. It would be like saying both Naruto and Sauske will combine to give life to the Sage of the Six Paths again AND he dies at the end saving the world. And I'm not sh!tting on your idea, because by the looks of Naruto he looks like he has the Sage of 6 Paths chakra inside him. Every power up he starts looking more and more like him.




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Thanks for the welcome! I also love reading predictions that make sense overall. I like actual predictions, not tangent strings of random thought about issues that don't, or aren't likely to, have any impact on the story! A bit of complete randomness is always great now and then too though :D

Jesus was just the most well known example. I was referring really only to the concept of being the son/descendant of the creator. The whole holy trinity and "3 into the 1" thing, whilst true, wasn't really the point I was making. But as I said, Jesus is just the most well known example, the whole concept of the "son of god" was around long before Christianity, if you look at ancient Egyptian and Mayan religions you see many of the same concepts. In fact Horus (I believe) of the Egyptian religion has more or less the exact same story as Jesus and was seen as the 'son' of the creator, so he would have been a good example too!

But to further elaborate on my prediction, seeing Sasuke in these last few chapters has really made me think that Naruto and Sasuke will end going through the unity/sacrifice for a common goal, the more and more I think the more and more I think it's gonna be the 10 tails. I think that if that thing is created by Tobi it will take the combined power of the Uchiha and the Uzumaki, the two halves of the SO6P to stop/use it.
 
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