Naruto and Sasuke Are On Par With Power ;)

[UncagedkillaG]

If Naruto > Sasuke then sasuke would be sitting back like Naruto got this. He isn't. Sasuke actually played the Goku role. To help him.

I don't see naruto ever beating sasuke unless he gets the sages power or something. Everything renders useless.

TBB < amaterasu
rasengan = chidori
clones = sharingan
SM/kcm 3tome to MS
BM = Susanoo incomplete
BSM = incomplete curse senjutsu susanoo
both halves = perfect susanoo
both halves plus sage mode = perfect senjutsu susanoo

Need I say more?

yeah, how about...

1. the best amaterasu could do against TBB is make it explode in front of him, maybe
2. yes, but what about rasenshuriken?
3. naruto could split his chakra evenly, like he did against neji, so no...
4. 3 tomo could barely handle naruto 1 tailed let alone if he rampaged and went 8 and SM>MS in everything, reaction speed, strength increase (which MS doesn't do), speed....
5 and 6...... just no
7 and 8 can't be speculated on

 

[Smd]

wow these trolls are still rageing.

Despite op attempt to please both sides.

Its pass some of your bed time.

itachi
god
sefiro

you all are disgrace to NB

 

[Amaterasuice]

On paper, they're not equal. Even though Sasuke is my favorite character.

While Naruto's bm is more or less equal to Sasuke's susanoo with legs, Naruto's sage mode is stronger than Sasuke's curse mark.

Bsm>Cs Susanoo.

The fact is, until Sasuke can do it without Jugo, Sasuke doesn't even have senjutsu. Leaving Sasuke with just susanoo.

Bsm>>Susanoo.

But give it time, and Sasuke will catch up.

 

[iNotorious]

wow these trolls are still rageing.

Despite op attempt to please both sides.

Its pass some of your bed time.

itachi
god
sefiro

you all are disgrace to NB

The irony

 

[KingHashirama]

Kind of......

 

[Wolfus]

If Naruto > Sasuke then sasuke would be sitting back like Naruto got this. He isn't. Sasuke actually played the Goku role. To help him.

I don't see naruto ever beating sasuke unless he gets the sages power or something. Everything renders useless.

TBB < amaterasu
rasengan = chidori
clones = sharingan
SM/kcm 3tome to MS
BM = Susanoo incomplete
BSM = incomplete curse senjutsu susanoo
both halves = perfect susanoo
both halves plus sage mode = perfect senjutsu susanoo

Need I say more?

1- Bijuu damas has a larger power, larger and faster destruction range
2- That depends. Regular rasengan=regular chidori
3- SM>/= MS(without susanoo) MS with susanoo>/= KCM
4- BM= PS(final PS, like madara's)
5- BSM>/= senjutsu final PS

That's how it is. The only thing that can put sasuke in naruto BM's lvl is the final PS, that if, by feats, the only susanoo that can rival a bijuu, and considering kurama's power, it has to be the final version(with the armor arround it, just like madara's). BSM is even more powerful, as the SM multipliers are applied. As sasuke's way of using senjutsu isn't the real sage mode(curse mark is a version of the incomplete SM), Sasuke with final PS= Naruto BM. Sasuke with senjutsu final PS</= Naruto BSM.

 

[Wolfus]

On paper, they're not equal. Even though Sasuke is my favorite character.

While Naruto's bm is more or less equal to Sasuke's susanoo with legs, Naruto's sage mode is stronger than Sasuke's curse mark.

Bsm>Cs Susanoo.

The fact is, until Sasuke can do it without Jugo, Sasuke doesn't even have senjutsu. Leaving Sasuke with just susanoo.

Bsm>>Susanoo.

But give it time, and Sasuke will catch up.

Naruto BM> Sasuke susano with legs. To equal naruto BM, sasuke has to reach the final version of his susanoo with legs, gaining a PS that is just like madara's. This is the only susanoo that can rival kurama.

 

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1- Bijuu damas has a larger power, larger and faster destruction range
2- That depends. Regular rasengan=regular chidori
3- SM>/= MS(without susanoo) MS with susanoo>/= KCM
4- BM= PS(final PS, like madara's)
5- BSM>/= senjutsu final PS

That's how it is. The only thing that can put sasuke in naruto BM's lvl is the final PS, that if, by feats, the only susanoo that can rival a bijuu, and considering kurama's power, it has to be the final version(with the armor arround it, just like madara's). BSM is even more powerful, as the SM multipliers are applied. As sasuke's way of using senjutsu isn't the real sage mode(curse mark is a version of the incomplete SM), Sasuke with final PS= Naruto BM. Sasuke with senjutsu final PS</= Naruto BSM.

wrong just baised theorys.

you forgot sasuke full body susanno is the size of BM Naruto.

Assumeing Sasuke PS is much bigger > BM naruto

CM uses the same natural energy just doesnt have the perks like SM naruto.

 

[Wolfus]

wrong just baised theorys.

you forgot sasuke full body susanno is the size of BM Naruto.

Assumeing Sasuke PS is much bigger > BM naruto

CM uses the same natural energy just doesnt have the perks like SM naruto.

Doesn't even know how to spell. The biased person here is you. They are not only deductions from logic(something you cant use) but there were hints of it in the manga. Oh, and I'm only talking about nº4, because the others are facts.

Do you really think size matters? The other bijuus were the same size as BM naruto in the kyuubi chakra form, so, all of them, individually, were equal to naruto BM? Use your brain.
Final PS is the only susanoo that can rival kurama. As we saw, it is just as powerful as a bijuu, and it can even tank a reflected bijuu dama.
CM is a fake version of juugo's sage transformation. Juugo's sage transformation is not as powerful as SM. The sage transformation is an incomplete SM. So it lacks the perfect control over natural energy. As we saw, perfected SM>incomplete SM, as the incomplete SM user didn't perfect the control over natural energy, which means that the SM multipliers aren't fully aplied.
All of this is logic. Learn to use it. And the next time you call someone biased, learn to spell it first.

 

[iFlowMotion]

It's all speculation and opinion

 

[Wolfus]

It's all speculation and opinion

No, some people here know how to discuss. They know that to build up an argument, one has to use logic, evidences, and facts to suport an idea. The ones who only discuss using their opinions as if opinions were facts are the fanboys.

 

[Smd]

Doesn't even know how to spell. The biased person here is you. They are not only deductions from logic(something you cant use) but there were hints of it in the manga. Oh, and I'm only talking about nº4, because the others are facts.

Do you really think size matters? The other bijuus were the same size as BM naruto in the kyuubi chakra form, so, all of them, individually, were equal to naruto BM? Use your brain.
Final PS is the only susanoo that can rival kurama. As we saw, it is just as powerful as a bijuu, and it can even tank a reflected bijuu dama.
CM is a fake version of juugo's sage transformation. Juugo's sage transformation is not as powerful as SM. The sage transformation is an incomplete SM. So it lacks the perfect control over natural energy. As we saw, perfected SM>incomplete SM, as the incomplete SM user didn't perfect the control over natural energy, which means that the SM multipliers aren't fully aplied.
All of this is logic. Learn to use it. And the next time you call someone biased, learn to spell it first.

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first two words, didnt read.

come back when your not acting like a butthurt lil child.

It's all speculation and opinion

well there are two hard facts

Sasuke is 2-0 vs naruto.

 

[Wolfus]

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first two words, didnt read.

come back when your not acting like a butthurt lil child.



well there are two hard facts

Sasuke is 2-0 vs naruto.

A person who acts like a child is a person that can't admit when he/she is mistaken, is a person that can't build arguments with logic and evidences. These are your charateriscitcs. I just love how you resort to insult the other person when your "arguments" are disproved. And your insult don't even make sense. This is a childish behavior. Leave this website until you manage to use your brain.

 

[Tapey]

i agree Sasuke >= Naruto ATM.

 

[Avinash012]

Agreed exept that last one

 

[Uchiha Marshmallow]

People just butthurt that Kishi said that they are equals since the beginning of the manga.

 

[Wolfus]

People just butthurt that Kishi said that they are equals since the beginning of the manga.

That's not how it works. You people always missunderstand kishi's world. How are they always equal, and in the beggining of shippude, sasuke was clearly>>base naruto? In the beggining of part 1 as well. They make progress together. One after the other. This doesn't mean that in the same exact time, all the time, they will be equal.

 

[linxekim]

Looks like I was right about them being equal with power. This thread hinted that because they share such similarities in power, they will combine it to an even greater force.

This is proof that they are equals. Next chapter will show them combining their guardians together.

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[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

You do realize that without Jūgo, Sasuke will be using/leeching on Naruto's Senjutsu to harm Obito.

 

[Rainbow Dash]

Amaterasu GG's Nardo