naruto and karin

[mayibongwe]

who is stronger between base naruto and base karin.

remove all other extensions like sm or bijuu.

i don't think naruto even has Uzumaki blood, i mean did you see how fast he died when the "half" kyuubi was extracted, he died instantly.

he hasn't shown any Uzumaki feats. don't tell me about being a jinchuriki of half a kyuubi. what we've seen proves he wouldn't be able to house a full kyuubi. it would have taken over his body fast.
naruto as a main character was ripped off.

anyway, share your opinion

 

[Sjhsgjhsgjshjshjsh]

Being able to host the kyubi was special between uzumakis as well .kushina and mito were special(even among uzumakis) ,so was naruto.. There is nothing proving that karin can host a biju like them.

-Naruto have more chakra .
-naruto is stronger
-naruto is faster

 

[Seventh Sama]

He was unconscious not dead iirc.
Anyways base naruto beats Karin.
Thousand of clones overwhelm her with rasengan and RS.

 

[Xāvî1]

are you high or something!

 

[HashiraMadara]

are you high or something!

was thinkin bout that

 

[Ageha Jaeger]

You guys actually took this thread seriously...

 

[mayibongwe]

Being able to host the kyubi was special between uzumakis as well .kushina and mito were special(even among uzumakis) ,so was naruto.. There is nothing proving that karin can host a biju like them.

-Naruto have more chakra .
-naruto is stronger
-naruto is faster

Karin, has shown those powerful uzumaki chains. she heal a chopped in half Tsunade.

explain why Naruto died instantly when that "half" i repeat "HALF" kyuubi got extracted.

 

[Fex]

Karin, has shown those powerful uzumaki chains. she heal a chopped in half Tsunade.

explain why Naruto died instantly when that "half" i repeat "HALF" kyuubi got extracted.

I hate these types of threads but Naruto is just stronger Karin. Stop trying to put technicality to stuff.

 

[Sjhsgjhsgjshjshjsh]

Karin, has shown those powerful uzumaki chains. she heal a chopped in half Tsunade.

explain why Naruto died instantly when that "half" i repeat "HALF" kyuubi got extracted.

First- karin just provided chakra (battery) for weakened tsunade . She did not stick her up ,tsunade did it herself with katsuyu .
Any medic can help tsunade for giving out chakra.

Second- those chains are nothing compared to naruto chakra levels .his chakra level is one of the reasons he can host a kyubi . Karin have poor chakra levels so she isn't like the other jins.

Third- you can see kushina is better than naruto in that category,but karin is not even a jin to be compared.

 

[Bangimaki]

Am still waiting for a konohamaru vs Madara thread

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Naruto's mom is an Uzumaki yet you don't think he has any Uzumaki Blood?

Naruto destorys Karin in base mode,she's not a fighting type,but it sounds like you're basing them more of off chakra,even so Naruto still owns.At 12 he was able to summon 1000 clones at once despite low chakra control.

Naruto is a powerhouse.His Uzumaki feat is having a ton of chaka,hence the 1000 clones. His other Uzumaki feat was his sealing jutsu.When he got the Kyuubi's power after kicking his ass he instantly made a new seal to seal off the Kyuubi,and having a body capable of holding a Bijuu.

You're downplaying Naruto.

 

[Naruto rikuduo mode]

naruto fight for 2 days continue and he reach far beyond his limits using kurama chakara also goes hard on host body and still even when kurama extracted naruto survive and still fighting if naruto wasnt uzumaki he should die in a second after kurama extracted, kushina wasnt fighting and sharing kurama chakra with shinobis so ur points are invalid

 

[SaskeyUchihahahaTard]

Karin, has shown those powerful uzumaki chains. she heal a chopped in half Tsunade.

explain why Naruto died instantly when that "half" i repeat "HALF" kyuubi got extracted.

lmao read the manga again.

naruto didn't die idiot he is unconscious and on the verge of death. and karin didn't heal tsunade she just give her a portion of her chakra, tsunade stiches herself via katsuyu.

 

[Darkakatsuki]

Being able to host the kyubi was special between uzumakis as well .kushina and mito were special(even among uzumakis) ,so was naruto.. There is nothing proving that karin can host a biju like them.

-Naruto have more chakra .
-naruto is stronger
-naruto is faster

Naruto only has half the Kyubi, Kushina and Mito housed the full completed Kyubi, that there renders your comparison between Mito and Kushina irrelevant. Also, Naruto couldn't even tame kyubi on his own, he still needed Kushina (who was only a portion of her chakra at the time) to hold it down for him with her chains, and Kushina neg diffed Kyubi in her half-dead state during the Kyubi attack. There is absolutely no comparison between Naruto and those Uzumaki women, you fail hard here buddy.

 

[Sjhsgjhsgjshjshjsh]

Naruto only has half the Kyubi, Kushina and Mito housed the full completed Kyubi, that there renders your comparison between Mito and Kushina irrelevant. Also, Naruto couldn't even tame kyubi on his own, he still needed Kushina (who was only a portion of her chakra at the time) to hold it down for him with her chains, and Kushina neg diffed Kyubi in her half-dead state during the Kyubi attack. There is absolutely no comparison between Naruto and those Uzumaki women, you fail hard here buddy.

Thats cute and all ,but if you hadn't noticed ...karin is not kushina or mito and she didn't show that she can host kyubi or have as half as naruto chakra.

 

[Darkakatsuki]

Naruto's mom is an Uzumaki yet you don't think he has any Uzumaki Blood?

Naruto destorys Karin in base mode,she's not a fighting type,but it sounds like you're basing them more of off chakra,even so Naruto still owns.At 12 he was able to summon 1000 clones at once despite low chakra control.

Naruto is a powerhouse.His Uzumaki feat is having a ton of chaka,hence the 1000 clones. His other Uzumaki feat was his sealing jutsu.When he got the Kyuubi's power after kicking his ass he instantly made a new seal to seal off the Kyuubi,and having a body capable of holding a Bijuu.

You're downplaying Naruto.

Technically base Naruto chakra levels do not exist, or at least cannot be measured. This is because it was explained in the manga (very clearly and concisely too) that Minato set up the seal so that Kyubi's chakra will continuously filter and merge into Naruto's chakra system, this was done by making a new seal that is made up of two four symbols seals overlapping each other, the eight trigrams seal. So basically there's no such thing as base Naruto chakra levels since his chakra levels have been continuously enhanced since birth by the Kyubi. Also, Naruto didn't instantly make a new seal, the seal he used is 'that jutsu' that the toads and Jiraiya said that Minato wanted Naruto to complete, it's not something that came out of the blue.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Naruto only has half the Kyubi, Kushina and Mito housed the full completed Kyubi, that there renders your comparison between Mito and Kushina irrelevant. Also, Naruto couldn't even tame kyubi on his own, he still needed Kushina (who was only a portion of her chakra at the time) to hold it down for him with her chains, and Kushina neg diffed Kyubi in her half-dead state during the Kyubi attack. There is absolutely no comparison between Naruto and those Uzumaki women, you fail hard here buddy.

Naruto was fighting the Kyuubi to gain access to its power anytime.Kushina never did that.She just had the Bijuu within her,and when she stopped the Kyuubi that was after Naruto had already weakened him.Its not like she beat him at full power(full as in all the power he had then).

Technically base Naruto chakra levels do not exist, or at least cannot be measured. This is because it was explained in the manga (very clearly and concisely too) that Minato set up the seal so that Kyubi's chakra will continuously filter and merge into Naruto's chakra system, this was done by making a new seal that is made up of two four symbols seals overlapping each other, the eight trigrams seal. So basically there's no such thing as base Naruto chakra levels since his chakra levels have been continuously enhanced since birth by the Kyubi. Also, Naruto didn't instantly make a new seal, the seal he used is 'that jutsu' that the toads and Jiraiya said that Minato wanted Naruto to complete, it's not something that came out of the blue.

I didn't mean make a new sealing technique - i meant he made a new seal to hold the Kyuubi an a instant.Good piont about base Naruto,but we can take a good guess and say his chakra level would still by very high considering he's a jin.

Also i don't remember it being said that was "That Jutsu".

 

[I love pancakes]

Kushina and Mito sealed Kyuubi within themselves as teenagers/full-adults vs. Naruto who had the Kyuubi sealed inside him when he was 10 minutes old. There's no reason for Naruto to not eventually unlock those chains, thing is though, they are useless for him, they would barely aid his base power.

 

[chaos control]

Do you know much about genetics? If his mother was Uzumaki then he is part Uzumaki as well. Period.

It doesn't matter what feats he has and hasn't shown. It could be that the vitality was a recessive trait that Naruto just didn't get.

If Sasuke mated with a non-Uchiha and had a child who did not inherit the ability to awaken sharingan, that child would still have Uchiha blood regardless of not having sharingan simply because he is Sasuke's child.

The same goes for Naruto. Genetics isn't about feats. It is about your parents and ancestors. Therefore it is very wrong of you to say that Naruto doesn't have Uzumaki blood.

Furthermore, Naruto is currently the jinchuuriki of all 9 bijuus, yet you think he can't handle full Kurama? That is stupid. You may be thinking that the other bijuus are just chakara fragments of the original, but they surely add up to more than 100% Kurama.

This thread was not very logical.

 

[mayibongwe]

Do you know much about genetics? If his mother was Uzumaki then he is part Uzumaki as well. Period.

It doesn't matter what feats he has and hasn't shown. It could be that the vitality was a recessive trait that Naruto just didn't get.

If Sasuke mated with a non-Uchiha and had a child who did not inherit the ability to awaken sharingan, that child would still have Uchiha blood regardless of not having sharingan simply because he is Sasuke's child.

The same goes for Naruto. Genetics isn't about feats. It is about your parents and ancestors. Therefore it is very wrong of you to say that Naruto doesn't have Uzumaki blood.

Furthermore, Naruto is currently the jinchuuriki of all 9 bijuus, yet you think he can't handle full Kurama? That is stupid. You may be thinking that the other bijuus are just chakara fragments of the original, but they surely add up to more than 100% Kurama.

This thread was not very logical.

don't be stupid and tell me about current naruto coz he has the sage body right now so he should be able to house anything...

but lets go back to before...

you have sasuke plus oro curse seal vs naruto who has uzumaki blood plus kyuubi... okay...

fine sasuke miraculously wins but how the hell on earth is naruto sleeping. like he can't move at all and sasuke a non-uzumaki still has enough chakra to make a run for it.

wasn't sasuke supposed to tire out firsts...

don't tell me about 1000 clones coz it could have been the kyuubi chakra even if stated otherwise...

face it base karin is stronger than Naruto... Kishi turned Naruto's uzumaki status into nothingness and never showed any feats about it... Kishi regrets naming the story after Naruto .