[VS] Naruto and Jiraya vs Tsunade and Sakura vs Sasuke and Orochimaru

[Mutsuhitu]

The battle of sannin and team7 members.If there was a manga about this i'ld buy the first copy.
But who wins the battle?

 

[wael reda]

If they are all in their prime then naruto solos

 

[Beans2]

What versions of naruto and sasuke?

 

[KidGamer65]

Current Naruto solos.

 

[Rιver]

Current Naruto solos.

Uhm, there's Sasuke...?

l0l​

 

[KidGamer65]

Uhm, there's Sasuke...?

l0l​

Your point?

 

[Rιver]

Your point?

How does he solo if there's Sasuke? They should be equal.​

 

[KidGamer65]

How does he solo if there's Sasuke? They should be equal.​

They aren't, there's pretty much no way to logically argue that they are equals at this point. Unless Sasuke is holding back, he loses to Naruto.

Not to mention the rest of them are non factors anyway.

 

[Rιver]

They aren't, there's pretty much no way to logically argue that they are equals at this point. Unless Sasuke is holding back, he loses to Naruto.

Not to mention the rest of them are non factors anyway.

How does Naruto beat Sasuke, if I may ask?​

 

[KidGamer65]

How does Naruto beat Sasuke, if I may ask?​

-Rinnegan S/T is countered with his reflexes.

-If he enters CQC without Perfect Susanoo, he gets manhandled by Naruto's far superior physical strength, and Gudo Dama.

-Susanoo is destroyed by either Kairiki Musou or Bijuu Dama FRS. Ideally during his short cooldown.

I'll go more in depth with counters.

 

[LuckyMan]

A better fight would be everyone in Pain Arc. That would put Sasuke at when he fought Bee, Naruto when he fought Pain, and everyone elses during those times.

 

[Nattana]

If Sasuke can use IT then he solos.

If he can't, then current Naruto solos.

 

[Rιver]

-Rinnegan S/T is countered with his reflexes.

-If he enters CQC without Perfect Susanoo, he gets manhandled by Naruto's far superior physical strength, and Gudo Dama.

-Susanoo is destroyed by either Kairiki Musou or Bijuu Dama FRS. Ideally during his short cooldown.

I'll go more in depth with counters.

You do know that he hasn't been able to react to Sasuke in multiple occasions or even follow him in time, despite the fact that he had intel in his ability on some occasions [

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]? He's definitely fast, but not faster than Kaguya in terms of reflexes. Not even better than Madara I assume.

He also can't handle his own BFRS. Sasuke also can dodge them with his Susano'O flight [

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]. He also has no counter to a slash or Amaterasu either, which could both potentially decimate him.

So I don't even think he wins this.​

 

[TRE MERCER]

Put Jiraiya Sakura Tsunade on the team with Sasuke and Naruto solo's. L0l @ Rowe Clones overwhelm Sasuke he goes Ps Naruto nukes his ass via Rasenbijuudama.

 

[KidGamer65]

You do know that he hasn't been able to react to Sasuke in multiple occasions or even follow him in time, despite the fact that he had intel in his ability on some occasions [

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]? He's definitely fast, but not faster than Kaguya in reflexes. Not even better than Madara I assume.​

That was Sasuke attacking someone else, Not Sasuke attacking Naruto himself. Don't know why people consistently use this as an argument when it clear that's now it works.

1. Sasuke still has to strike before he hits his opponent, something that irrelevant in the panels you posted since Sasuke didn't attack anyone. He switched with his sword and Madara ran into it. He teleported behind Naruto, causing the latter to bump into him.

2. Surprise=/=Inability to react.

Naruto is faster than Madara in every single possible way. Cemented ever since he blitzed Kaguya with Shunshin. Sasuke nigh blitzed Shinju Madara and chopped him in half without S/T. Naruto has consistently been reacting to a faster opponent, and her faster attacks. [

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] Even Sasuke is above him in the speed department, Naruto is above Sasuke, so he's above Madara as well. In fact, your reaction speed is usually faster than you can actually move yourself (Why Itachi was able to react to Kirin with Susanoo, but unable to evade) and Naruto's Shunshin is faster than Kaguya since she failed to react to his blitz, so they are in the same tier when it comes to reactions and speed.

And he doesn't need to be superior to Kaguya in order to react to Sasuke's S/T jutsu. She outright evaded his last blitz, all Naruto needs to do is block it and counter.

He also can't handle his own BFRS. Sasuke also can dodge them with his Susano'O flight [

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]. He also has no counter to a slash or Amaterasu either, which could both potentially decimate him.

He'll never have to deal with his own BDFRS, and no, he can't, not more than one at a time.

-Bijuu Dama Rasen Shuriken travels as fast as Sasuke's Susanoo as they

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at the same time, and

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their targets at the same time. The scan you posted shows Naruto not trying to hit Sasuke, so that clearly doesn't count. And Naruto can pass the Gudo Dama on to his clones, allowing him to use multiple BDFRS from multiple directions.

-Amaterasu? The same move that Ay evaded? The same move that Juubito (Slower than Naruto) easily blocked? Lol. Naruto counters it like Juubito did or he outright evades it.

-And that's where you are wrong. PS slashes can be evaded as

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did, and then he can fall back and blow it up with BDFRS, or he can use his enhanced strength with Kairiki Musou for a barrage of punches that will obliterate his Susanoo, as 5 Chakra Arms from Kaguya destroyed it, and Naruto powered through

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and sent Kaguya into the nearby cliff. A barrage would destroy it.​

 

[Rιver]

That was Sasuke attacking someone else, Not Sasuke attacking Naruto himself. Don't know why people consistently use this as an argument when it clear that's now it works.

1. Sasuke still has to strike before he hits his opponent, something that irrelevant in the panels you posted since Sasuke didn't attack anyone. He switched with his sword and Madara ran into it. He teleported behind Naruto, causing the latter to bump into him.

2. Surprise=/=Inability to react.

Naruto is faster than Madara in every single possible way. Cemented ever since he blitzed Kaguya with Shunshin. Sasuke nigh blitzed Shinju Madara and chopped him in half without S/T. Naruto has consistently been reacting to a faster opponent, and her faster attacks. [

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] Even Sasuke is above him in the speed department, Naruto is above Sasuke, so he's above Madara as well. In fact, your reaction speed is usually faster than you can actually move yourself (Why Itachi was able to react to Kirin with Susanoo, but unable to evade) and Naruto's Shunshin is faster than Kaguya since she failed to react to his blitz, so they are in the same tier when it comes to reactions and speed.

And he doesn't need to be superior to Kaguya in order to react to Sasuke's S/T jutsu. She outright evaded his last blitz, all Naruto needs to do is block it and counter.

Not in the first scan. You can clearly see Sasuke teleporting behind Naruto, without any equipments to fly with. Hence the exclamation marks from Naruto (!!). He was surprised and could have done nothing if Sasuke used Chidori blade to cut him apart from behind, or even worse, Enton fist. Nothing he would be able to about that now, would he?

We don't know the speed of the dimension, while she also shot a bone even Kakashi and Obito could outrun with much greater gravity. Nothing special.

Faster than Madara in every possible way? I wonder why his clones had so hard time with dealing with his Limbo. Not that it even matters, because Sasuke is better than Madara too.​

He'll never have to deal with his own BDFRS, and no, he can't, not more than one at a time.

-Bijuu Dama Rasen Shuriken travels as fast as Sasuke's Susanoo as they

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at the same time, and

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their targets at the same time. The scan you posted shows Naruto not trying to hit Sasuke, so that clearly doesn't count. And Naruto can pass the Gudo Dama on to his clones, allowing him to use multiple BDFRS from multiple directions.

-Amaterasu? The same move that Ay evaded? The same move that Juubito (Slower than Naruto) easily blocked? Lol. Naruto counters it like Juubito did or he outright evades it.

No. He noticed after he threw them, hence the 'Uh?'. So Sasuke evaded them himself, and Naruto even warned him to dodge them. You can also see no spot the blast hasn't covered, implying he was in the middle [

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People often consider Amaterasu slow, and while even if it is too slow for Naruto, how will he deal with an Enton sword? A scratch leads to spread, which leads to burn, which leads to limb loss, which results in death. There's still the fact that Naruto has no counter to Enton.​

-And that's where you are wrong. PS slashes can be evaded as

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did, and then he can fall back and blow it up with BDFRS, or he can use his enhanced strength with Kairiki Musou for a barrage of punches that will obliterate his Susanoo, as 5 Chakra Arms from Kaguya destroyed it, and Naruto powered through

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and sent Kaguya into the nearby cliff. A barrage would destroy it.

Nothing suggests he has to be close to Naruto, if Madara cut mountains from much greater distance than it could be portrayed. What's even worse, is that if Sasuke applies Enton to it, not only will Naruto be cut apart, but he'd also be burned for a guarantee. If Naruto dodges that, Sasuke comes from behind to slice his neck off or punch with Enton at his back for a gift.​

 

[Red Slayer]

Sasuke,Orochimaru and 4 Hokage wins

 

[KidGamer65]

Not in the first scan. You can clearly see Sasuke teleporting behind Naruto, without any equipments to fly with. Hence the exclamation marks from Naruto (!!). He was surprised and could have done nothing if Sasuke used Chidori blade to cut him apart from behind, or even worse, Enton fist. Nothing he would be able to about that now, would he?​

Teleporting behind Naruto=/=Teleporting behind Naruto and attacking him. Pretty sure I made that clear. Teleporting is instantaneous, attacking isn't. The fact he has to attack after teleporting means that anyone who is fast enough can react, and Naruto is fast enough, so he can react.

We don't know the speed of the dimension, while she also shot a bone even Kakashi and Obito could outrun with much greater gravity. Nothing special.

The travel through the portal is instantaneous, and Kakashi didn't evade or outrun a bone that was shot through Kaguya's S/T portal, so your attempt to downplay the feat is futile.

Faster than Madara in every possible way? I wonder why his clones had so hard time with dealing with his Limbo. Not that it even matters, because Sasuke is better than Madara too.

I wonder where the bold came from considering the manga never showed his clones struggling with the Limbo.

No. He noticed after he threw them, hence the 'Uh?'. So Sasuke evaded them himself, and Naruto even warned him to dodge them. You can also see no spot the blast hasn't covered, implying he was in the middle [

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], even though that doesn't even matter.​

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He tried not to hit him. Sasuke flew right past the Bijuu Dama and their explosion all the way down to Naruto.

People often consider Amaterasu slow, and while even if it is too slow for Naruto, how will he deal with an Enton sword? A scratch leads to spread, which leads to burn, which leads to limb loss, which results in death. There's still the fact that Naruto has no counter to Enton.

Its not slow, just not fast enough to catch anyone equal to or above Ay's speed, and an Enton Sword? It has to hit him first of all, and as shown above, Naruto can evade it. Second of all Enton isn't, and has never been used with Perfect Susanoo, even though it'd benefit Sasuke greatly, leading me to believe that there is a chance Enton is only usable with Susanoo at the lower levels. PS's only weapon is a sword no matter who's used it.

Nothing suggests he has to be close to Naruto, if Madara cut mountains from much greater distance than it could be portrayed. What's even worse, is that if Sasuke applies Enton to it, not only will Naruto be cut apart, but he'd also be burned for a guarantee. If Naruto dodges that, Sasuke comes from behind to slice his neck off or punch with Enton at his back for a gift.​

If he isn't up close, then Naruto simply tosses a few BDFRS at him and kills him. If he is up close, Naruto flies behind Susanoo and smashes it with Kairiki Musou. If he's up close, he can use clones and physically block its swings just how Hashirama blocked Madara's Susanoo's swing with Mokujin, by grabbing its arm.

Enton Weapons with PS isn't canon. PS uses nothing but a standard sword. Same for every single user. Not to mention it'll only release shockwaves, not a giant burst of Enton instead of the shockwave itself.

Not to mention he still has 9 Gudo Dama for a shield.

So, Sasuke swings his Susanoo blade, Naruto flies behind him, or evades it, and then Sasuke suddenly gets Naruto's back before he can react? Not sure if serious with this stuff. Naruto is faster than Sasuke in pretty much every way imaginable. Getting his back and killing him before he can react is nonsense let alone doing so right after an attack in Susanoo.

 

[SuperChief]

Your point?

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[Team7monaa]

If it's Current then
Naruto & Jiraiya take This.


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