Naruto and Jiraiya vs Sasuke and Itachi

who wins?

  • Naruto and Jiraiya

    Votes: 34 68.0%
  • Sasuke and Itachi

    Votes: 14 28.0%
  • all die ftw

    Votes: 2 4.0%

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Uchiha Josephus

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yea but its not like he gets a crazy speed boost he just gets more chakra for stronger moves..none of which can stop yata mirror..sh*t itachi might as well have a ems susanoo with that mirror
Sage mode does more than just increase chakra ...

It increases the user's physical strength, speed, reflexes, durability and stamina as well as allowing the user to sense chakra around them (a huge advantage in this fight).

(also it boosts ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu)

Also - I'd like to see Itachi dodge an attack he can't see (remember the pein fight ;) )
 

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Naruto in BM mode would cause total destruction. Also, being in perfect jinchuuriki mode, it gives him immunity to Itachi's Tsukuyomi. Sasuke's EMS would outlast Itachi's MS, but Itachi is more skilled, so that is a disadvantage for team Uchiha. Sasuke does have Lightning style but Naruto's Wind style trumps that, which is trumped by Sasuke and Itachi's Fire style and Sasuke's Blaze style, which is trumped by Jiraiya's Earth style, which is trumped by Sasuke's Lightning style. So the element battle is a draw. Naruto has SM mode if he runs out of BM. Itachi's Susanoo could probably even stop Naruto's TBB, but if Jiraiya was able to get him with SM genjutsu, it might give Naruto enough time to use it. Actually, since TBB doesn't have a specific element to it, it may get past Itachi's Mirror. With the enhanced speed of SM and BM, I don't think Naruto and Jiraiya would have to worry too much about Amaterasu. If they can get Itachi to wear out his MS, that would save them a lot of trouble. The only main thing they would have to worry about is Sasuke's Kirin. Very easy to make if Sasuke and Itachi spam Amaterasu. I don't think even Naruto could dodge that. But, in the end, I go with Naruto and Jiraiya.
 
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Naruto in BM mode would cause total destruction. Also, being in perfect jinchuuriki mode, it gives him immunity to Itachi's Tsukuyomi. Sasuke's EMS would outlast Itachi's MS, but Itachi is more skilled, so that is a disadvantage for team Uchiha. Sasuke does have Lightning style but Naruto's Wind style trumps that, which is trumped by Sasuke and Itachi's Fire style and Sasuke's Blaze style, which is trumped by Jiraiya's Earth style, which is trumped by Sasuke's Lightning style. So the element battle is a draw. Naruto has SM mode if he runs out of BM. Itachi's Susanoo could probably even stop Naruto's TBB, but if Jiraiya was able to get him with SM genjutsu, it might give Naruto enough time to use it. Actually, since TBB doesn't have a specific element to it, it may get past Itachi's Mirror. With the enhanced speed of SM and BM, I don't think Naruto and Jiraiya would have to worry too much about Amaterasu. If they can get Itachi to wear out his MS, that would save them a lot of trouble. The only main thing they would have to worry about is Sasuke's Kirin. Very easy to make if Sasuke and Itachi spam Amaterasu. I don't think even Naruto could dodge that. But, in the end, I go with Naruto and Jiraiya.
LOL! That was a lot of rambling on, but I agree with it for the most part :)
 

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Sage mode does more than just increase chakra ...

It increases the user's physical strength, speed, reflexes, durability and stamina as well as allowing the user to sense chakra around them (a huge advantage in this fight).

(also it boosts ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu)

Also - I'd like to see Itachi dodge an attack he can't see (remember the pein fight ;) )
yes that was a nice move but whether u can see the move or not i doubt its gonna break the armor of his susanoo since u cant intentionally block an invisible attack with the mirror and usually once itachi sees an attack he's not familiar with once he's thinking of a counter attack who knows he might be vulnerable when he's doing certain moves and itachi can notice and prolly wont kill him but maybe wound him
 

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yes that was a nice move but whether u can see the move or not i doubt its gonna break the armor of his susanoo since u cant intentionally block an invisible attack with the mirror and usually once itachi sees an attack he's not familiar with once he's thinking of a counter attack who knows he might be vulnerable when he's doing certain moves and itachi can notice and prolly wont kill him but maybe wound him
A sage-mode-nature-chakra punch should be enough to get through Susanoo's armor to wound Itachi (or just knock the wind out of him :) )

Other than that, agreed! :)


I ain't complaining :shrug:

and I was requesting for the original post to be modified

Anyway, thanks gentleman :)
I'm just saying that if you think one team is overpowered, then you should obviously vote for that team in the poll as the winner. You don't go trying to make it easier for the side you want to win :)

Besides, this battle utilizes all the powers available to all the opponents, so I don't see it as unfair.
 
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Bolded - but genjutsu won't work now since him and Kurama work together now
If useless Saucegay can put Manda under genjutsu, Itachi can definitely take Kurama and Naruto. Problem is Itachi's eyesight will be getting worse at an exponential rate (just my theory), so wont last long and will effectively become a sitting duck when hes blind.

Also, if idiot Saucegay suppressed the Kyuubi when he met Naruto, the genius (he really is!) Itachi can greatly reduce its influence on the outcome fo the fight.
 
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Id have to disagree, as Madara controlling the Kyuubi is just advanced genjutsu, and Itachi's genjutsu is the second most powerful genjutsu we've seen so far (first being Bringer of Darkness, eliminating all dojutsu and leaving opponents vulnerable). If useless Saucegay can put Manda under genjutsu, Itachi can definitely take Kurama and Naruto. Problem is Itachi's eyesight will be getting worse at an exponential rate (just my theory), so wont last long and will effectively become a sitting duck when hes blind.
He was referring to the fact that if Naruto gets put under genjutsu then Kurama would snap him out of it (just like what happened with Bee and the Hachibi).

Oh, and Bringer of Darkness is an awesome move :D
 

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I'm just saying that if you think one team is overpowered, then you should obviously vote for that team in the poll as the winner. You don't go trying to make it easier for the side you want to win :)

Besides, this battle utilizes all the powers available to all the opponents, so I don't see it as unfair.
I'm a grown-up :D
I don't wish for a certain side to win!

just was stating my point of view,...overpowered <> out numbered

Sorry, but it's just unfair
If someone asked to fight me ,I might agree, but if he/she is bringing his/her dog along,
well, HELL NOOO!!! :eek:
 

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A sage-mode-nature-chakra punch should be enough to get through Susanoo's armor to wound Itachi (or just knock the wind out of him :) )
Dont think so. Any other Susanoo I maybe would have agreed, but Itachi's Susanoo has the Yata Mirror, which is said to stop ANY offensive jutsu, any sort of attack. Granted that it takes a lot to keep his Susanoo going, but as long as it stays up, Itachi is invulnerable (unless new info comes out).

Btw, people say KM Naruto. What is KM?
 

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He was referring to the fact that if Naruto gets put under genjutsu then Kurama would snap him out of it (just like what happened with Bee and the Hachibi).

Oh, and Bringer of Darkness is an awesome move :D
Fair point. Bringer of Darkness just typifies Hashirama- unique and incredibly powerful!
 

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Dont think so. Any other Susanoo I maybe would have agreed, but Itachi's Susanoo has the Yata Mirror, which is said to stop ANY offensive jutsu, any sort of attack. Granted that it takes a lot to keep his Susanoo going, but as long as it stays up, Itachi is invulnerable (unless new info comes out).

Btw, people say KM Naruto. What is KM?
You might want to go back and read the conversation we've been having. Itachi won't use the Yata mirror to block a punch he can just dodge - unfortunately the physical punch wasn't the actual attack, it was the nature-chakra punch (remember back to pein fight).

Anyway - KM is Kyuubi Mode (the mode Naruto was in for practically the entire war before Bijuu Mode)
 
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