Naruto and Hashirama both just come off as naive to me now

[mikeeozua]

Is this coming from the man who was saying the alliance's deaths are nothing to Naruto?

Show me one thing i contradicted in that specific post. And show me where my biased is showing, because yours is kinda leaking out of every single you have made on the thread.

Your trying to prove what the manga disagrees with, so good luck to you oh "great intelligent person". =D



Jiraiya only met Naruto after he was nearly killed by Orochimaru and Zabuza and Haku..... and you know lived for 10 years raising himself up.... you know not knowing love.... just looking at people and wondering what a family is.... you know being hated by everyone around him. ^_^.

Nagato didn't b*tch and moan about anything? Though he was hell bent on killing people, and making them experience the same pain he suffered even though that is impossible since they would be dead...All this was derived from his b*tching and moaning about Yahiko and his parent's death.. he still had the akatsuki and Konan...

@bold, -sigh- sadly your naive just like Nagato and Madara and Obito.

If you really believe that Pain was all he wanted to accomplish, then you are also naive. Nagato knew that people would learn from the pain that they suffered and not go to war again. This is an even more mature approach than Naruto's IMO, he even fully recognised that his peace would not last forever but instead temporary fragments.

 

[Fodder#4]

Is this coming from the man who was saying the alliance's deaths are nothing to Naruto?

Show me one thing i contradicted in that specific post. And show me where my biased is showing, because yours is kinda leaking out of every single you have made on the thread.

Your trying to prove what the manga disagrees with, so good luck to you oh "great intelligent person". =D



Jiraiya only met Naruto after he was nearly killed by Orochimaru and Zabuza and Haku..... and you know lived for 10 years raising himself up.... you know not knowing love.... just looking at people and wondering what a family is.... you know being hated by everyone around him. ^_^.

Nagato didn't b*tch and moan about anything? Though he was hell bent on killing people, and making them experience the same pain he suffered even though that is impossible since they would be dead...All this was derived from his b*tching and moaning about Yahiko and his parent's death.. he still had the akatsuki and Konan...

@bold, -sigh- sadly your naive just like Nagato and Madara and Obito.

Twenty minutes to an hour and a half before I return. If I feel like humoring you, I'll point out your errors once more.

Edit: I've got class at two thirty [ Two hours for me] and I am going to be busy for a little while. I shall have to move this back for, at the least, three hours.

 

[KingHashirama]

Twenty minutes to an hour and a half before I return. If I feel like humoring you, I'll point out your errors once more.

Edit: I've got class at two thirty [ Two hours for me] and I am going to be busy for a little while. I shall have to move this back for, at the least, three hours.

Take your time man. o-o. But if you do reply, please bother yourself to vm me to let me know .

If you really believe that Pain was all he wanted to accomplish, then you are also naive. Nagato knew that people would learn from the pain that they suffered and not go to war again. This is an even more mature approach than Naruto's IMO, he even fully recognised that his peace would not last forever but instead temporary fragments.

So his plan was to kill more people so they wouldn't kill? where is the sense in this?

Sorry genocide isn't considered a mature approach in this living world, unless your a Nazi believer then i understand. So basically he recognized his peace was gonna be temporary yet still hell bent on killing? ok.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

What does reviving them have anything to do with Naruto seeing Kakashi dead? He was angry when he found out. He didn't even know they were gonna be revived. But you know what he the balls to get over it. But here is the thing, everyone in the alliance is close to Naruto, your seperating Neji and etc cause they are his friends. But thats not the case here. Naruto feels sad and anger and pain for every single person that is killed.

When was the last time Nagato had to see the deaths of thousands of people, who all relied on him? Did Nagato have to live on his own as a child? no. He was a orphan for a moment, and then bam Yahiko comes in and so on. And then we had Jiraiya. His only pains as he himself stated were death of his parents and death of Yahiko. Which are nothing compared to Naruto's pain.

One can sure argue that, but that one would need to realize that atleast the person was given love. Atleast they were shown affection. Atleast they had someone to remember.


Never lost anybody in the war? do you even read the manga??? The thousands of shinobi that relied on him , all killed in front of his eyes.... yet you say he didn't lose anyone.. Jiraiya's death.... SHOWN NO LOVE... CALLED A DEMON .... HATED FOR NO REASON.... DESPISED... yet you say he didn't experience any pain? SAW HIS VILLAGE GET DESTROYED. SAW HIS KONOHA PEOPLE GET SLAUGHTERED .... You think he was only angry at pain for Jiraiya's death? lmao

Never experienced war? where do you think he is right now? in pony land?

Who do you think he was crying for in this scan? lmao

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YOU... you're right my bro ...you wrote all right .....1+ rep for you dude
Core part of naruto's strength is that 'HE CAN NEVER GIVE UP'

 

[KingHashirama]

YOU... you're right my bro ...you wrote all right .....1+ rep for you dude
Core part of naruto's strength is that 'HE CAN NEVER GIVE UP'

Exactly, and because of him getting over the pain hes suffered in the past, people believe he hasn't suffered much because he doesn't b*tch and moan on it.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

I meant as a child. Nagato was only 12 before hand, Naruto already had lessons in maturing from Jiraiya and Minato.

you must be a 6 years old kiddo
BTW naruto had no parents since his birth but nagato had .....Naruto suffered alot and knew about pain quite more than nagato but naruto never gave up Because he is ""UZUMAKI NARUTOOOOOO""

 

[mikeeozua]

Exactly, and because of him getting over the pain hes suffered in the past, people believe he hasn't suffered much because he doesn't b*tch and moan on it.

Not everybody is like Naruto. Sasuke lost his whole clan and you say its wrong for him to feel like he's been wronged? Nagato lost his family and he shouldn't feel wronged? Madara got betrayed by the Uchiha and he shouldn't feel wronged? Orochimaru lost his parents to Konoha and he shouldn't feel wronged?