Naruto actually proved Neji wrong?

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Yesterday i saw a post about how Neji was right when he was telling Naruto about Destiny and about how when you are born then your fate is already decided, but if you think about it, Naruto actually proved Neji wrong?..

Naruto is Ashura's incarnation which means that his Destiny was actually to die with Sasuke and keep the 'Indra & Ashura' s cycle of hatred going, but instead Naruto didn't do that, resulting the cycle to break, which also means that Naruto had a choice instead of a "destiny"?

Please discuss, hopefully i didn't understand anything wrong from that thread ^^
 

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I guess so
 

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Yesterday i saw a post about how Neji was right when he was telling Naruto about Destiny and about how when you are born then your fate is already decided, but if you think about it, Naruto actually proved Neji wrong?..

Naruto is Ashura's incarnation which means that his Destiny was actually to die with Sasuke and keep the 'Indra & Ashura' s cycle of hatred going, but instead Naruto didn't do that, resulting the cycle to break, which also means that Naruto had a choice instead of a "destiny"?

Please discuss, hopefully i didn't understand anything wrong from that thread ^^

No, the major flaw is Hashirama & Madara didn't die together therefore we could successfully make a counter argument saying death isn't always a factor in the indra/a shura argument.
 

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You know Madara and Hashirama actually had peace at one point or two right?

They were actually grown like Sasuke and Naruto are now .. they actually already confirmed that they will fight again too.

So no, he actually didn't. Ashura and Indra aren't Sasuke and Naruto, vise versa.

When Naruto and Sasuke die Ashura and Indra will still be around thus proving that theory wrong entirely. But hey, maybe when Sauce and Noddles do die they become like Hagaromo a spirit thing to guide Ashura's and Indra's next victims.
 

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No, the major flaw is Hashirama & Madara didn't die together therefore we could successfully make a counter argument saying death isn't always a factor in the indra/a shura argument.

The difference between 'Madara & Hashirama' and 'Naruto & Sasuke' is that one of them kept the cycle going and the other chose to stop and break it.

Also, we've always been told that if Naruto and Sasuke went full out on each other even after their last fight, they would both die.. but at the same time im not sure if Indra and Ashura died at same time aswell, so..
 

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You know Madara and Hashirama actually had peace at one point or two right?

They were actually grown like Sasuke and Naruto are now .. they actually already confirmed that they will fight again too.

So no, he actually didn't. Ashura and Indra aren't Sasuke and Naruto, vise versa.

When Naruto and Sasuke die Ashura and Indra will still be around thus proving that theory wrong entirely. But hey, maybe when Sauce and Noddles do die they become like Hagaromo a spirit thing to guide Ashura's and Indra's next victims.

true, but would have Madara kept going if BZ didn't mess with the tablet? at the same time we could ask the same question for Indra and if he wouldn't have been so crazy if BZ hadn't interfered.

this is getting interesting! xD

EDIT: I guess we wouldn't have had the story if BZ didn't exist.. all hail lord BZ!
 
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stop stealing kol's vids.

First, i don't know who Kol is.

Second, so you're telling me if i get an idea and want to discuss it, i can't do it because someone i've never heard of already talked about it? nice logic! :bouncy:

and third, this is where i got the idea from:

 

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Not actually. Naruto was the child of prophecy. He was destined to do all that stuff, ideology wise and power wise. Neji was 100% right.
 

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Nah, Neji was right.

In Part 1 it may have seemed like he was wrong, but Part 2 threw that out the window when we found out the Uzumaki was a powerful clan related to the Senju, Naruto being the Child of Prophecy destined to save the world, reincarnation of Sage of the Six Paths Hagoromo's son Ashura.

Naruto was destined for this long before he was born, according to the prophecy Gamamaru told Hagoromo.
 

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Nah, Neji was right.

In Part 1 it may have seemed like he was wrong, but Part 2 threw that out the window when we found out the Uzumaki was a powerful clan related to the Senju, Naruto being the Child of Prophecy destined to save the world, reincarnation of Sage of the Six Paths Hagoromo's son Ashura.

Naruto was destined for this long before he was born, according to the prophecy Gamamaru told Hagoromo.

ah, i completely forgot about the prophecy, i assumed that considering he is reincarnation of Ashura then his destiny is to Fight the reincarnation of Indra.
 

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You know Madara and Hashirama actually had peace at one point or two right?

They were actually grown like Sasuke and Naruto are now .. they actually already confirmed that they will fight again too.

So no, he actually didn't. Ashura and Indra aren't Sasuke and Naruto, vise versa.

When Naruto and Sasuke die Ashura and Indra will still be around thus proving that theory wrong entirely. But hey, maybe when Sauce and Noddles do die they become like Hagaromo a spirit thing to guide Ashura's and Indra's next victims.

Two problems with what you said.

1.) Naruto and Sasuke confirming they're going to fight again is going to be one where they fight to determine whose really
stronger and they're fighting as rivals, not enemies. Madara was influenced by BZ and despaired, and thus they fought
as enemies. Sasuke knows better than to fall into hatred again as it would destroy everything.

2.) At the end of the Naruto and Sasuke VOTE 2 fight, Sasuke literally FLAT OUT stated that he had acknowledged Naruto.
He then said THE CYCLE OF HATRED ENDED SINCE HE, AN INDRA INCARNATE acknoweledged Naruto. So there will be
no more Indra and Ashura reincarnates, as he said himself.
 

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Two problems with what you said.

1.) Naruto and Sasuke confirming they're going to fight again is going to be one where they fight to determine whose really
stronger and they're fighting as rivals, not enemies. Madara was influenced by BZ and despaired, and thus they fought
as enemies. Sasuke knows better than to fall into hatred again as it would destroy everything.

2.) At the end of the Naruto and Sasuke VOTE 2 fight, Sasuke literally FLAT OUT stated that he had acknowledged Naruto.
He then said THE CYCLE OF HATRED ENDED SINCE HE, AN INDRA INCARNATE acknoweledged Naruto. So there will be
no more Indra and Ashura reincarnates, as he said himself.

agree ^^
 
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