Uchiha Samater
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Hey guys, here are the things I picked up from the Manga today, and what I THINK it means.
Please take all theory’s with a pinch of salt as they are all indeed theories and not fact …..yet lol.
Enjoy
Chakra Longevity:
The sage mentioned to Naruto that he has progressed through time as a form of Chakra:
He also mentioned the words ‘’Whenever I Meet’’, as this was translated by MP, I will wait for the MS translation to take it as fact.
However if correct, this may mean the Sage has met other’s before in his travels.
The implications of what this can mean will follow, please read on.
Brother:
The sage has also mentioned, as many have noticed, that he had a Brother, and more importantly the ‘’Juubi was sealed in US’’:
‘’Us’’, This is quite an important fact as history has referred to Hagoromo as the one who defeated the Juubi.
If we are to accept that his brother also had some of the Juubi sealed in himself what could this mean?
Possible conclusions are :
A. His brother sealed the Juubi in Hagoromo
B. They sealed it within themselves as he said
Ninshuu v Ninjutsuu:
Moving on, this interesting statement was made by Hagoromo:
‘’Ninshuu’’, Hagoromo went on to deny Ninjutsu and explained why Ninshuu was created.
Based on this, I Theorise that his Brother was the one to create Ninjutsuu.
I say that based on Hagoromo’s statement regarding the sealing of the Juubi, which would grant his brother what we can assume a similar power.
Now what you may argue is that were told by Madara that humans used chakra to create Ninjutsuu, however I will get to that please read on.
A Combination of Staff's:
Another interesting thing that I noticed was Hagoromo’s staff:
As you can see the staff is a combination of the one Obito generated and Madara generated as the Juubi Jinchuuriki’s respectively:
''Portion of thread Removed due to Error''
This is quite interesting, as it really does beg the question where is his brother?
You can also look at the staffs in the following light:
A - Brother/Madara - Crescent Moon
B - Hagoromo/Obito - Full Moon
Now compare that to the symbology of the Crescent Moon and Full Moon in respect to Indra and Ashura, [the Son's of the Sage]:
Very nice foreshadow regarding the combination of the two.
It also begs the question why Obito was able to erect the Staff that is similar to Hagoromo's original, [Possibly related by the Inherited will he was denying internally]
It also is a nice foreshadow of Sasuke combining with Naruto and their eventual ''Combining'' of power to battle the ''Juubi'' [Madara]
I also theorise that his brother was possibly defeated by Hagoromo, [or possibly died during the battle with the Juubi]
And he took that power from him.
However, i believe the brother also:
This would explain Madara’s past knowledge.
Considering how the sage feels regarding Ninjutsu, and the way the world should be, Madara is the opposite.
OR:
The Brother , to attone for their mother's sins [who Madara mentioned something happened to her after eating the Fruit- see SirDerpObito theory on Kaguya and Shinigami] , used the Reaper Death Seal to seal the Juubi in Hagoromo, Hence Hagoromo using the word US
The Brother by then would already have descendents and those would filtered down to the Uzumaki
What do you guys think
Please take all theory’s with a pinch of salt as they are all indeed theories and not fact …..yet lol.
Enjoy
Chakra Longevity:
The sage mentioned to Naruto that he has progressed through time as a form of Chakra:
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He also mentioned the words ‘’Whenever I Meet’’, as this was translated by MP, I will wait for the MS translation to take it as fact.
However if correct, this may mean the Sage has met other’s before in his travels.
The implications of what this can mean will follow, please read on.
Brother:
The sage has also mentioned, as many have noticed, that he had a Brother, and more importantly the ‘’Juubi was sealed in US’’:
You must be registered for see images
‘’Us’’, This is quite an important fact as history has referred to Hagoromo as the one who defeated the Juubi.
If we are to accept that his brother also had some of the Juubi sealed in himself what could this mean?
Possible conclusions are :
A. His brother sealed the Juubi in Hagoromo
B. They sealed it within themselves as he said
Ninshuu v Ninjutsuu:
Moving on, this interesting statement was made by Hagoromo:
You must be registered for see images
‘’Ninshuu’’, Hagoromo went on to deny Ninjutsu and explained why Ninshuu was created.
Based on this, I Theorise that his Brother was the one to create Ninjutsuu.
I say that based on Hagoromo’s statement regarding the sealing of the Juubi, which would grant his brother what we can assume a similar power.
Now what you may argue is that were told by Madara that humans used chakra to create Ninjutsuu, however I will get to that please read on.
A Combination of Staff's:
Another interesting thing that I noticed was Hagoromo’s staff:
You must be registered for see images
As you can see the staff is a combination of the one Obito generated and Madara generated as the Juubi Jinchuuriki’s respectively:
You must be registered for see images
''Portion of thread Removed due to Error''
This is quite interesting, as it really does beg the question where is his brother?
You can also look at the staffs in the following light:
A - Brother/Madara - Crescent Moon
B - Hagoromo/Obito - Full Moon
Now compare that to the symbology of the Crescent Moon and Full Moon in respect to Indra and Ashura, [the Son's of the Sage]:
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
Very nice foreshadow regarding the combination of the two.
It also begs the question why Obito was able to erect the Staff that is similar to Hagoromo's original, [Possibly related by the Inherited will he was denying internally]
It also is a nice foreshadow of Sasuke combining with Naruto and their eventual ''Combining'' of power to battle the ''Juubi'' [Madara]
I also theorise that his brother was possibly defeated by Hagoromo, [or possibly died during the battle with the Juubi]
And he took that power from him.
However, i believe the brother also:
- Travelled through time via Chakra form
- In these Travels came across Madara
- DID NOT SAVE HIM, as because the sage explained:
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This would explain Madara’s past knowledge.
Considering how the sage feels regarding Ninjutsu, and the way the world should be, Madara is the opposite.
OR:
The Brother , to attone for their mother's sins [who Madara mentioned something happened to her after eating the Fruit- see SirDerpObito theory on Kaguya and Shinigami] , used the Reaper Death Seal to seal the Juubi in Hagoromo, Hence Hagoromo using the word US
The Brother by then would already have descendents and those would filtered down to the Uzumaki
What do you guys think
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