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It makes me curious about how close Madara was to the brothers he lost. For an Uchiha he really didn't seem affected.

He came to the river, because of the loss of his brothers. Thats why he came to the river.

It's pretty harsh I admit, but what about the deaths.. J-man's death was the saddest to me, but thats just my opinion. lol he was one of my favs

Man, this chapter made it seem like Gaara's assassinations were nothing. X_X.

J-man's death was sad. ^_^. But I find the death of a younger brother who was probably not even 10 sadder, especially when you came to save him.
 

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He came to the river, because of the loss of his brothers. Thats why he came to the river.

That's what I noticed, he handles things like Itachi. It's Obito and Sasuke who seem to lose control. I wonder if Izuna's death is his breaking point.
 

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That's what I noticed, he handles things like Itachi. It's Obito and Sasuke who seem to lose control. I wonder if Izuna's death is his breaking point.

Nah, Madara would never kill his clan or w.e for something bigger. He knows that much.

You do have to realize, Madara in Hashirama's flashback thought the same as Hashirama.. (Hashirama sounded more confident in the alliance thing). But it was Izuna's death that triggered Madara to go rogue.

Itachi has never faced that.
 

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wow Madara attitude somehow like naruto a bit
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Nah, Madara would never kill his clan or w.e for something bigger. He knows that much.

You do have to realize, Madara in Hashirama's flashback thought the same as Hashirama.. (Hashirama sounded more confident in the alliance thing). But it was Izuna's death that triggered Madara to go rogue.

Itachi has never faced that.

True, I just find it interesting some people say all the Uchiha are the exact same way. Both Itachi not wanting to support his clan's choice and Obito being a crazy goof really differ from the view of the Uchiha clan people previously conceived. Now Madara is acting all temperamental like Naruto. I'm starting to think Sasuke's a black sheep. lol However we still don't know much about Inzuna yet.
 

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True, I just find it interesting some people say all the Uchiha are the exact same way. Both Itachi not wanting to support his clan's choice and Obito being a crazy goof really differ from the view of the Uchiha clan people previously conceived. Now Madara is acting all temperamental like Naruto. I'm starting to think Sasuke's a black sheep. lol However we still don't know much about Inzuna yet.
Itachi is actually like a uchiha more then people know.

But we have to remember Sasuke had never seen death before. And then all of a sudden his loved brother kills everything Sasuke loved. Obito also hated the Uchiha clan. X_X. Itachi kind of had no choice but to go against the clan and atleast save 1 member.
 

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Itachi is actually like a uchiha more then people know.

But we have to remember Sasuke had never seen death before. And then all of a sudden his loved brother kills everything Sasuke loved. Obito also hated the Uchiha clan. X_X. Itachi kind of had no choice but to go against the clan and atleast save 1 member.

Yeah, I just remember the chapter when they said Itachi was never bound by his clan and wondered what that implied. He acted like an Uchiha but didn't follow them.

And yes, Sasuke was pretty scarred by that, but he and Madara seem to have better reasons for their revenge/peaceful wishes than Obito does with Rin. I wonder if there's more to it or is it really just her dying. I feel Obito's hate of the Uchiha clan is part of his reason, not just Rin's death.
 

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Yeah, I just remember the chapter when they said Itachi was never bound by his clan and wondered what that implied. He acted like an Uchiha but didn't follow them.

And yes, Sasuke was pretty scarred by that, but he and Madara seem to have better reasons for their revenge/peaceful wishes than Obito does with Rin. I wonder if there's more to it or is it really just her dying. I feel Obito's hate of the Uchiha clan is part of his reason, not just Rin's death.
Obito was kinda manipulated by Madara.

Also, you can tell that Itachi didn't want to kill his clan , because he started crying when he went to kill his parents who already knew about his decision and etc.

Yea they both do have better reasons. But Obito himself has also seen war ;l.
 
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I knew KingHashi has definitely been enjoying the last few chapters :lmao: . But It was shocking to find out there was another brother inside the family. And the Dad definitely comes off as the badass type.
 

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I knew KingHashi has definitely been enjoying the last few chapters :lmao: . But It was shocking to find out there was another brother inside the family. And the Dad definitely comes off as the badass type.

The dad freaking brutal. NEVER EVER insult a senju in front of him ;x. lol.
 

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Obito was kinda manipulated by Madara.

Also, you can tell that Itachi didn't want to kill his clan , because he started crying when he went to kill his parents who already knew about his decision and etc.

Yea they both do have better reasons. But Obito himself has also seen war ;l.

Oh yes, Madara was definitely manipulating him!

Killing your own blood would be a painful thing to do, and having the whole village trust him to prevent a war was a heavy burden to bear. It is amazing he didn't go insane.

I know, I believe there is more to Obito than just Rin's death. He was "Madara" and "Tobi" and saw many things and knew many things. He may have been vulnerable when he agreed to Madara's plan, but it didn't stop there. He saw everything!
 

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Oh yes, Madara was definitely manipulating him!

Killing your own blood would be a painful thing to do, and having the whole village trust him to prevent a war was a heavy burden to bear. It is amazing he didn't go insane.

I know, I believe there is more to Obito than just Rin's death. He was "Madara" and "Tobi" and saw many things and knew many things. He may have been vulnerable when he agreed to Madara's plan, but it didn't stop there. He saw everything!
Glad we agree on that :D

Also, the village didn't even know about it. IF they had the village probably would've allied with the Uchiha. It would've caused a turn of power at Konoha's government. Only 4 people knew about it and forced him to do it.

Yes I agree, he saw death. He was even in a war himself and Kakashi. He has seen plenty of the dirty side of the world. He even contributed to the dirtyness (By helping kill the Uchiha).
 

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Glad we agree on that :D

Also, the village didn't even know about it. IF they had the village probably would've allied with the Uchiha. It would've caused a turn of power at Konoha's government. Only 4 people knew about it and forced him to do it.

Yes I agree, he saw death. He was even in a war himself and Kakashi. He has seen plenty of the dirty side of the world. He even contributed to the dirtyness (By helping kill the Uchiha).

lol me too!

I thought that, too. There was obviously another way than slaughtering your clan, but by keeping it under the table, Itachi's hand was forcefully dealt. Now what we have to wait and see is, will Sasuke find the village redeemable or kill everyone for political secrets the innocent villagers were unaware of from the start.

Exactly, so "you let Rin die" is just one of many reasons, but the only one he willingly chose to give Kakashi at that moment.

OT: Read your VM, I'm heading off, too! Night! :)
 
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