[Discussion] Naruto 607 plothole/mistake from Kishi?! - Sasuke..

[BladerItachi]

Maybe Kishi skipped the part where Obito extracts the kyuubi from the kushina and the graveyard bit I don't understand clearly either, But you have to understand it is showing from Obito's point of view so that is why it's different from the mountain bit and kyuubi attacking the village

 

[NarutoIndra]

He just skipped the part, it's not like he's going to put all this in one page, it would almost be another flashback chapter of a flashback chapter. I think kishi knew what he was doing and just didn't feel like re doing the same thing like last time, so showed what happened as a continuation.

 

[UchihaGaeshi]

This. People should really start to think.

 

[UchihaGaeshi]

You bring up a good point. My guess is when he created akatsuki Konan probably thought it was his own creation. Tobi doesn't use the name Akatsuki and also says his goal is to guide the one with the Rinnegan, whereas Akatsuki's goal is different.

 

[aimop95]

He never summoned it into the graveyard...first for a couple of reasons,

1. It's day time when Kakashi and Obito visited Rin's grave

2. It's OBVIOUSLY nighttime when it is summoned. So Kishi did a little time skip when the flowers were being thrown onto the ground.

So there is your proof.

 

[stinkey]

there is no plot hole

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this picture from old chapter showing nine tails summoned in the village after minato took kushina to naruto.
so that means that kishi skipped the part where he extracted the nine tails. plz reread the chapters b4 posting

 

[nagato9]

no thats not how it happened. he took it out of kushina away from the village. then he went to the village and summed the kyuubi there.

 

[oShux]

Can you all stop flaming the guy? Sheesh

 

[oShux]

seeing as how obito made the kurama in this chapter appear by blowing leaves from rins grave would make me assume it was a diversionary kurama, which when being dealt with by minato even for a few seconds('cus it might not be the real kurama) would give obito enough time to reach kushina.

lolwut?

 

[Floydical]

I was going to make this exact thread but realized I was just being overly sensitive to what parts Kishi skipped.

If you look at the panels, its daylight when he visits the grave, fact. When he actually summons the Kyuubi, its night; fact. Therefore, we have to assume that a full 12 hours or more likely past between those two panels, fact. The only concern that remains after that is why the words, "summoning Jutsu" are shown in the last day panel rather than the first night panel; but this is easily explained. Simply put, its a way to splice two scenes together (most notably in an anime) with words from the next scene being spoken while the last scene is still up.

Now its really hard to explain what I just did, but I tried my best. I think that a lot of people that read this post will understand the kind of anime situation I'm talking about, but again this is really simple. Kishi just outright skipped scenes of events that we have already been informed of and added an anime style flare to that segment.

 

[Makaveli The Don]

he just speed things up man..if you notice its still daytime when obito sees kakashi and its night when he summons the 9 tails

 

[endo]

Look man i already know 30 people already explained to me what happened, what i want to know is why did he knock her flowers over.

Why the hell does that even matter?

 

[Makaveli The Don]

I think you're even higher then me.

yes he is ... smh cocaine is a hell of drug

 

[Fonkyomom]

yup, you're a moron xD

 

[Ldude]

i think Kishi just skipped the kushina part.

This, he's just been skipping around. These events aren't within minutes of each other. >.<

 

[NarutoLuffy313]

Does nobody seriously wonder why Obito summoned the Kyuubi right after Kakashi was done visiting Rin and Obito while not even extracting it from Kushina first?? because i don't remember it happening this way look:

Here he is extracting the bijuu from Kushina personally, and take note of the location they are in.

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Now here you see the Kyuubi released and the location is completely different then the one we saw in 607 which was clearly at the graveyard right after Kakashi left.

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Now look at how Obito summons the fox here, it's COMPLETELY different then the one we see above!

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And then here we see that the Kyuubi is CLEARLY in the village:

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And then here from manga chapter 501-502 we see that after the extraction he's in the mountain/woods area WTF.

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So tell me what you think is it a mistake from Kishi or am i just mindf/ked.

It's a transition panel. You can clearly see that the leaves represent the Hidden Leaf Village.

 

[iBon3]

To me, it seemed liked that time where Obito was spying on Kakashi was an earlier seen than the Kyuubi summoning. If you notice, it is day time when Kakashi and Obito are at Rin's grave and night time when the Kyuubi is summoned. It just said , "Summoning Jutsu" in the slide where he is throwing the flowers (Or whatever hes doing) to transition to the Kyuubi attack which occured later. I think the anime will show this a lot more clearly.

 

[AngryRock]

I noticed that as well and when he went out after kakashi it was daytime but in the next drawing ti shows night. I am quite confused.

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[ITACHIUCHIA101]

I'm pretty sure there was a time skip...

 

[cp3i]

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check it if u still have issues. Very logical answer