NaruSaku Logic About SasuKarin

[Koshej]

Sasusaku>Naruhina

Just for lulz, I dare you to explain it in max 3 sentences, using manga-only references.

 

[AceisSpaz]

It doesn't matter when it comes to 'discussing' which pairing made the most sense. In the end Kish made whatever pairings possible for part 3 to use and that's it.

I'm also quite sure that this is a bash thread, any pairing related topics should be kept in the pairing thread where those who like to discuss pairings take part in discussing about pairings.

You're honestly pissing off members..

 

[6thHokage]

Just for lulz, I dare you to explain it in max 3 sentences, using manga-only references.

I don't need to.

 

[Koshej]

I don't need to.

You do need to, cause otherwise you're just looking like an obsessed idiot (or an obsessed hater, which is even worse).
I doubt you want that, honestly.
So, be a good boy and simply explain your opinion - there's nothing shameful in having one, IF you can actually formulate your reasoning right.
Otherwise...

 

[superturtle]

I neg diff your salt.
And maybe you should use your tiny brain for once and listen when I keep explaining WHY I behave like this.
Note:
It has everything to do with how fed up I was with Hinata-haters during 2013-2014.
Oh, and since some of them are STILL at it, ya know...

Don't really understand this logic. If you really are a true fan of Hinata and her character then you should be outright pissed at how badly Kishimoto mishandled her. Going from a promising side character with potential and backstory in part 1 to nothing but pairing fodder in part 2. I can't say I dislike Hinata at all, but I'm damn sure disappointed in how badly she and other side characters got shafted in part 2. Some people hate her for what she turned into at Kishimotos hands. I don't agree with it myself, but it's a valid point that I can respect.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

SS > SK because Sakura actually knows him. Also, I really want the rumoured SS movie come true, as it could really help give proper reasons as to why Sakura loved Sasuke all this time, and in turn, somewhat fix up her character and motives.

She only likes Sasuke because he was seen as cool by her (and every girl).

 

[Koshej]

Don't really understand this logic. If you really are a true fan of Hinata and her character then you should be outright pissed at how badly Kishimoto mishandled her. Going from a promising side character with potential and backstory in part 1 to nothing but pairing fodder in part 2. I can't say I dislike Hinata at all, but I'm damn sure disappointed in how badly she and other side characters got shafted in part 2. Some people hate her for what she turned into at Kishimotos hands. I don't agree with it myself, but it's a valid point that I can respect.

Funny, but it clashes with my view of her 9000%.
Especially since I DIDN'T care about her in P1 at all.
I have explained this several times over, how I used to rant over a fic that killed off SAKURA, while totally ignoring the ongoing SASUHINA there.
Well, THAT was after only watching P1.
Much later, after seeing Confession, I actually turned into a HUUUGE fan of hers.
And NOT even for pairing reasons at all - I kinda dislike Naruto for his Goku'ness (Vegeta was always a much better character for me, as you can see on the LEFT, lol).
Actually, I'd even say that Vegeta and Hinata do have in common THE thing that I so LIKE in them - the ability to SELF-SACRIFICE for their loved ones.
Sure, Goku did the same vs Cell, but it's what HEROES do anyways.
When Vegeta self-sacrificed vs Buu, it felt like a real PERSONAL character development thing, not just some cliche HERO stuff.
And when Hinata CHOSE to CONSCIOUSLY jump into a fight she KNEW she'd lose (with a potentially FATAL outcome as well) - I was REALLY MOVED by it.
REALLY and REALISTICALLY.
We live in a way too SELFISH real world to overlook such actions as "insignificant".
It's precisely the other way around - to me, Hinata embodies a much more important LESSON than Naruto does, cause there's no point in "never giving up", if you only do it for YOURSELF.
But if you're giving yourself OVER to OTHERS, you become actually WORTHY of something intrinsic.
Which is why I get so realistically pissed off by Hinata-haters, cause it seems as if they spit on the IDEA of selflessness and self-sacrifice - which is, like I just said, the very THEME of Hinata's character in regards to Naruto.
I'm sure I explained it clearly enough NOW...

 

[TheAncientJinchuuriki]

Best to ignore them. They're delusional because they didn't get their pairing become canon

 

[SatsukiSama]

Funny, but it clashes with my view of her 9000%.
Especially since I DIDN'T care about her in P1 at all.
I have explained this several times over, how I used to rant over a fic that killed off SAKURA, while totally ignoring the ongoing SASUHINA there.
Well, THAT was after only watching P1.
Much later, after seeing Confession, I actually turned into a HUUUGE fan of hers.
And NOT even for pairing reasons at all - I kinda dislike Naruto for his Goku'ness (Vegeta was always a much better character for me, as you can see on the LEFT, lol).
Actually, I'd even say that Vegeta and Hinata do have in common THE thing that I so LIKE in them - the ability to SELF-SACRIFICE for their loved ones.
Sure, Goku did the same vs Cell, but it's what HEROES do anyways.
When Vegeta self-sacrificed vs Buu, it felt like a real PERSONAL character development thing, not just some cliche HERO stuff.
And when Hinata CHOSE to CONSCIOUSLY jump into a fight she KNEW she'd lose (with a potentially FATAL outcome as well) - I was REALLY MOVED by it.
REALLY and REALISTICALLY.
We live in a way too SELFISH real world to overlook such actions as "insignificant".
It's precisely the other way around - to me, Hinata embodies a much more important LESSON than Naruto does, cause there's no point in "never giving up", if you only do it for YOURSELF.
But if you're giving yourself OVER to OTHERS, you become actually WORTHY of something intrinsic.
Which is why I get so realistically pissed off by Hinata-haters, cause it seems as if they spit on the IDEA of selflessness and self-sacrifice - which is, like I just said, the very THEME of Hinata's character in regards to Naruto.
I'm sure I explained it clearly enough NOW...

Leave it to anti-NaruHina and pro NaruSaku to dismiss or try to criticize such bravery and selflessness. Boggles the mind.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

SS > SK because Sakura actually knows him. Also, I really want the rumoured SS movie come true, as it could really help give proper reasons as to why Sakura loved Sasuke all this time, and in turn, somewhat fix up her character and motives.

I'd rather not want a SS movie since I fear they would screw it up. But I would watch it day one if possible lol.

 

[Koshej]

Leave it to anti-NaruHina and pro NaruSaku to dismiss or try to criticize such bravery and selflessness. Boggles the mind.

If they only kept holding onto the cliche of NaruSaku, I'd be kinda OK with this.
After all, I do agree that everyone has different tastes.
The problem starts the moment they ALSO start dissing Hinata's character and the LESSONS we can learn from her (and NOT Sakura at all).
Then, I keep seeing this as an insult to the IDEA of selflessness, which irks me to the degree of actually attacking them in response.
The best proof of how this shipping war is NOT the real reason that I'm so allergic to Hinata-haters, is that Hinata is the ONLY ever character that I've defended like this.
I don't care a shit about SaiIno, despite always preferring ChoIno (including making an AMV for them and quite often mentioning this as my choice).
I don't care about ShikaTema vs ShikaIno.
I actually dislike SasuSaku due to how stupid it ended up being ( cue this real idiocy of Sakura never NEEDING a reason to love someone so abusive) - though I always saw it coming, plus I always kept calling them a TRIBUTE to VegetaBulma (funny, but I've never called NaruHina a TRIBUTE to GokuChichi, despite often explaining how it IS so; it's just that Hinata is more important than this tribute stuff, while Sakura has never been more important than being a watered down Bulma).
In short, I have other pairings I like and/or have seen coming - but NONE of them made me DEFEND them or the characters involved.
Only Hinata, and NaruHina as the RESULT of Hinata.
Which is, again, why I react so strongly to Hinata-hating.
And guys like Radon really don't make any sense in the way they make fun of me liking Hinata for her DEEPER meaning.

 

[V h o]

Guys please let's not throw NH into this when NH is not related to SS or SK.

 

[Koshej]

Guys please let's not throw NH into this when NH is not related to SS or SK.

Disagree, since it's pretty obvious that SK is a brother-ship to NS, while SS is a brother-ship to NH.
Though it mostly only matters in the first case, since it's the brother-ship of SALTY LOSERS.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

SS > SK because Sakura actually knows him. Also, I really want the rumoured SS movie come true, as it could really help give proper reasons as to why Sakura loved Sasuke all this time, and in turn, somewhat fix up her character and motives.

I agree with every word of this.

 

[V h o]

Disagree, since it's pretty obvious that SK is a brother-ship to NS, while SS is a brother-ship to NH.
Though it mostly only matters in the first case, since it's the brother-ship of SALTY LOSERS.

Neither Naruto or Hinata are in a relationship with Sasuke, Sakura, or Karin, therefore they are not related. Rival ship is not enough reason to throw another couple into the mix. That's all I have to say.

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[Darth Uchiha]

If they only kept holding onto the cliche of NaruSaku, I'd be kinda OK with this.
After all, I do agree that everyone has different tastes.
The problem starts the moment they ALSO start dissing Hinata's character and the LESSONS we can learn from her (and NOT Sakura at all).
Then, I keep seeing this as an insult to the IDEA of selflessness, which irks me to the degree of actually attacking them in response.
The best proof of how this shipping war is NOT the real reason that I'm so allergic to Hinata-haters, is that Hinata is the ONLY ever character that I've defended like this.
I don't care a shit about SaiIno, despite always preferring ChoIno (including making an AMV for them and quite often mentioning this as my choice).
I don't care about ShikaTema vs ShikaIno.
I actually dislike SasuSaku due to how stupid it ended up being ( cue this real idiocy of Sakura never NEEDING a reason to love someone so abusive) - though I always saw it coming, plus I always kept calling them a TRIBUTE to VegetaBulma (funny, but I've never called NaruHina a TRIBUTE to GokuChichi, despite often explaining how it IS so; it's just that Hinata is more important than this tribute stuff, while Sakura has never been more important than being a watered down Bulma).
In short, I have other pairings I like and/or have seen coming - but NONE of them made me DEFEND them or the characters involved.
Only Hinata, and NaruHina as the RESULT of Hinata.
Which is, again, why I react so strongly to Hinata-hating.
And guys like Radon really don't make any sense in the way they make fun of me liking Hinata for her DEEPER meaning.

Well I don't see Hinata ever becoming the psychotic screeching harpy that Chichi was.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Shit, at least Karin has a halfway decent reason for loving Sasuke.

I would like to know what was the reason for Karin to love Sasuke?

And Sakura knows Sasuke no better than Sakura does.

And what do you mean by this line?

Funny, but it clashes with my view of her 9000%.
Especially since I DIDN'T care about her in P1 at all.
I have explained this several times over, how I used to rant over a fic that killed off SAKURA, while totally ignoring the ongoing SASUHINA there.
Well, THAT was after only watching P1.
Much later, after seeing Confession, I actually turned into a HUUUGE fan of hers.
And NOT even for pairing reasons at all - I kinda dislike Naruto for his Goku'ness (Vegeta was always a much better character for me, as you can see on the LEFT, lol).
Actually, I'd even say that Vegeta and Hinata do have in common THE thing that I so LIKE in them - the ability to SELF-SACRIFICE for their loved ones.
Sure, Goku did the same vs Cell, but it's what HEROES do anyways.
When Vegeta self-sacrificed vs Buu, it felt like a real PERSONAL character development thing, not just some cliche HERO stuff.
And when Hinata CHOSE to CONSCIOUSLY jump into a fight she KNEW she'd lose (with a potentially FATAL outcome as well) - I was REALLY MOVED by it.
REALLY and REALISTICALLY.
We live in a way too SELFISH real world to overlook such actions as "insignificant".
It's precisely the other way around - to me, Hinata embodies a much more important LESSON than Naruto does, cause there's no point in "never giving up", if you only do it for YOURSELF.
But if you're giving yourself OVER to OTHERS, you become actually WORTHY of something intrinsic.
Which is why I get so realistically pissed off by Hinata-haters, cause it seems as if they spit on the IDEA of selflessness and self-sacrifice - which is, like I just said, the very THEME of Hinata's character in regards to Naruto.
I'm sure I explained it clearly enough NOW...

Hey can you space your paragraphs a bit? I find it hard reading your stuff when its clustered like that.

 

[SatsukiSama]

I would like to know what was the reason for Karin to love Sasuke?

And what do you mean by this line?

1- He saved her life. Considering her background what with her clan being massacred and her being recruited by Orochimaru and probably passed around as a test experiment for all types of creatures to leach off your chakra (symbolizing sexual exploitation if we wanted to go dark and deep), what Sasuke did was probably the first time she has ever been protected. That's why she was introduced to be so crafty and ruthless. Tough background. So she fell in love with and became devoted to this one guy who has ever done something for her. Kind of like Kushina with Minato. He became her hero. Someone cool and strong who did for her what no one else probably has.

And ppl disagree, but I believe Karin genuinely loved Sasuke. The databook claimed her love was "dangerous"....but IDK man......you can't trust the data book anyway. Those tears she shed and power up she got to get to him when he was dying shows something deeper than so called dangerous love to me. Karin's a down ass b!tch for her man. Reminds me of a less psycho Yuno in Future Diary. Maybe that's why I had some level of hope for SasuKarin. It would be dysfunctional but psych Bonny and Clyde-ish dysfunctional.

And her devotion as part of team taka was more than Sasuke ever deserved. What a lucky SOB that guy is. So many ppl so devoted to him whether he's in light or darkness.

Dude never really suffered any consequences for throwing away teams 7 and taka....unless you count his guilt....others have forgiven him but I don't think he has forgiven himself.

2- Someone said Sakura knows more about Sasuke than Karin. I disagree with that. We haven't seen anything to indicate Sakura has any knowledge of Sasuke's background pre time skip or understanding of him as a person to justify her love. Hell, b!tch didn't even know if he liked candy or apples in part 1 after the gaara fight. They've been class mates since they were little kids and she didn't know something that basic? She only threw herself at him when she got the chance and took care of him when he was in the hospital which is cool. No conversations or indication that she ever looked past his pensive face. She even said so herself when she was on her way to try to kill him.

In part 2, she learned about his pain which is cool. Karin also knows about his pain and was also devoted to him. Karin also has her sensory abilities which enabled her to gage him chakra-wise/mentally/emotionally.

Like Sakura, she had no influence over him though. She just fell in where she fit and fulfilled her duty as essentially a tracking device and chakra refueler. And like Sakura and of course, he protected them her as team members at different points.

Pardon the wall of text. Just skim it. LOL