NaruHina?????

[Craziie]

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FYI yes im on par with the manga. reason i didn't put that page is because even after he holds her hand he still says to his own dad that sakura is his girlfriend

You just didn't bother to read my post , did you?

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I'm looking at joke but nonsensical seems pretty legit.

 

[Aim64C]

Naruhina was never developed romantically except in hinata's head.

Naruto, personally, hasn't been developed romantically.

Does the guy want a family? He has not been shown in the paternal light, nor has he been portrayed as the husbandly type, either. His concept of romance is still very child-like. Like I said - a girlfriend is someone cute and attractive who goes to eat ramen with him regularly while telling everyone she's his girlfriend.

He really hasn't demonstrated a romantic understanding beyond that of a gradeschooler.

We know that Naruto likes sakura, and we know sakura is confused about her feelings [even stated in the data book].

There's no confusion there. There's an internal conflict - but there's no confusion. She recognizes that Naruto is a great person and any girl should be happy to have him.

But she doesn't want him that way. Never has, and never will. He doesn't make her panties wet, and she's not interested in a guy that can't give her that thrill.

It's obvious Narusaku is the end game, Otherwise i call fan service.

Never was, and never will be. Just looking at it with common sense tells you that Sakura has been out of the picture for a romantic pairing with Naruto since he became 'the fluffer' in agreeing to bring Sasuke back for her.

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Those two threads I built almost as a series. Though I could go through it even more exhaustively and with more bits of information that have been found since then - but Sakura doesn't even begin to fit into the picture of the plot. She's a character that isn't.

It's clear that Kishimoto's thinking on the plot has included Hinata for a very long time, and that she's intended to play an integral role in the plot since the beginning.

By comparison - Sakura is kind of stuck on there as a tag-along. She's done nothing to really advance the plot (well, one can argue that her defeat of Sasori was involved in the plot... but by that same token, so was Konohamaru's defeating the Naraka Path). Kishimoto has, really, not put nearly as much focus on her as he has on Hinata.

He can say what he wants in interviews, but the patterns in his writing betray his biases. Sakura may be a headline character - but she's a tag-along for the plot... a plot that Hinata has been integrated deeply into since close to the inception of the story.

 

[Atalaya]

Like I care, but you're leaving out some major stuff dude XD

 

[Sasuke the Boss]

Naruto, personally, hasn't been developed romantically.

Does the guy want a family? He has not been shown in the paternal light, nor has he been portrayed as the husbandly type, either. His concept of romance is still very child-like. Like I said - a girlfriend is someone cute and attractive who goes to eat ramen with him regularly while telling everyone she's his girlfriend.

He really hasn't demonstrated a romantic understanding beyond that of a gradeschooler.



There's no confusion there. There's an internal conflict - but there's no confusion. She recognizes that Naruto is a great person and any girl should be happy to have him.

But she doesn't want him that way. Never has, and never will. He doesn't make her panties wet, and she's not interested in a guy that can't give her that thrill.



Never was, and never will be. Just looking at it with common sense tells you that Sakura has been out of the picture for a romantic pairing with Naruto since he became 'the fluffer' in agreeing to bring Sasuke back for her.

For a more exhaustive analysis:

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Those two threads I built almost as a series. Though I could go through it even more exhaustively and with more bits of information that have been found since then - but Sakura doesn't even begin to fit into the picture of the plot. She's a character that isn't.

It's clear that Kishimoto's thinking on the plot has included Hinata for a very long time, and that she's intended to play an integral role in the plot since the beginning.

By comparison - Sakura is kind of stuck on there as a tag-along. She's done nothing to really advance the plot (well, one can argue that her defeat of Sasori was involved in the plot... but by that same token, so was Konohamaru's defeating the Naraka Path). Kishimoto has, really, not put nearly as much focus on her as he has on Hinata.

He can say what he wants in interviews, but the patterns in his writing betray his biases. Sakura may be a headline character - but she's a tag-along for the plot... a plot that Hinata has been integrated deeply into since close to the inception of the story.

you're being biased, Naruhina was never Developed, Don't pull that BS.

Narusaku was developed the entire Shippuden.

Sasuke will never get with sakura as it's a disgrace to women and Out of character for sasuke.

Narusaku is the end game. If not i call fan service.

gg.

 

[ImNoOne]

my theory: Naruto is asexual.

There's nothing asexual about being flat out gay.


The Sakura harassment thing is just to throw away suspicion.

 

[ImNoOne]

you're being biased, Naruhina was never Developed, Don't pull that BS.

Narusaku was developed the entire Shippuden.

Sasuke will never get with sakura as it's a disgrace to women and Out of character for sasuke.

Narusaku is the end game. If not i call fan service.

gg.

A fan Service would be a 4some with Naruto Sakura Hinata and Sasuke!

 

[Aim64C]

you're being biased, Naruhina was never Developed, Don't pull that BS.

I linked you to two discussions that prove otherwise. "NaruHina" was developed. Or, rather, the relationship between Naruto and Hinata.

There's a thematic relationship between the two characters. Hinata is Yin. Naruto is Yang. You'll see this come into play, later, when it is revealed that the Hyuuga and the Uzumaki lineages predate the Sage and played an integral role in the formation of Ninjutsu as a whole.

The two share the same destiny - as Neji said. Just as Naruto is to be the next Sage; Hinata is to play the accompanying role that the Hyuuga originally played. Just as it was Neji's destiny to die protecting the Head Branch.

Some of the things that have happened within the past year were sketched into concept near the inception of the series (alongside the theme of the Chuunin exam). Kishimoto has been waiting years for the plot to mature to the point where he could bring those sketched ideas into play.

Narusaku was developed the entire Shippuden.

Really?

Do tell.

Sasuke will never get with sakura as it's a disgrace to women and Out of character for sasuke.

I've covered this, as well:

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Sakura will sacrifice herself to save Naruto from Sasuke - and might just be the trigger for Sasuke to realize that his path is a very destructive and lonely one, needlessly.

Narusaku is the end game. If not i call fan service.

You're just dense. NaruSaku is not the end-game. It was the beginning of the game - the impetus for the conflict between Naruto and Sasuke.

Read the threads, little buddy, and you'll see that there's a lot more to what I'm saying than "lol gg."

gg.

Cute. You don't even realize that there was never a game to begin with.

 

[Sasuke the Boss]

I linked you to two discussions that prove otherwise. "NaruHina" was developed. Or, rather, the relationship between Naruto and Hinata.

There's a thematic relationship between the two characters. Hinata is Yin. Naruto is Yang. You'll see this come into play, later, when it is revealed that the Hyuuga and the Uzumaki lineages predate the Sage and played an integral role in the formation of Ninjutsu as a whole.

The two share the same destiny - as Neji said. Just as Naruto is to be the next Sage; Hinata is to play the accompanying role that the Hyuuga originally played. Just as it was Neji's destiny to die protecting the Head Branch.

Some of the things that have happened within the past year were sketched into concept near the inception of the series (alongside the theme of the Chuunin exam). Kishimoto has been waiting years for the plot to mature to the point where he could bring those sketched ideas into play.



Really?

Do tell.



I've covered this, as well:

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Sakura will sacrifice herself to save Naruto from Sasuke - and might just be the trigger for Sasuke to realize that his path is a very destructive and lonely one, needlessly.



You're just dense. NaruSaku is not the end-game. It was the beginning of the game - the impetus for the conflict between Naruto and Sasuke.

Read the threads, little buddy, and you'll see that there's a lot more to what I'm saying than "lol gg."



Cute. You don't even realize that there was never a game to begin with.

keep relying On hinata's one sided Development.

Naruhina is your opinion, That is why your dense.

Narusaku makes the most sense and the most pluasible and im not even a sakura or a naruto fan.

 

[Aim64C]

keep relying On hinata's one sided Development.

As opposed to the no development for Naruto and Sakura?

The point is that Naruto and Hinata were envisioned as a pair since the dawn of the series. Whether they end up sleeping together by the end of the show has yet to be seen (Naruto and/or Hinata could very well die).

Naruhina is your opinion, That is why your dense.

You are about twenty lifetimes short of being able to determine what my opinion is, much less understand or critique it.

Narusaku makes the most sense and the most pluasible and im not even a sakura or a naruto fan.

How does it make sense?

How is it the most plausible?

You're not very good at this whole 'discussion' thing.

It really doesn't matter whether you are a 'narusaku fan,' or not. That has little bearing on your lack of perception and analytical capability.

If you want to know why you will be shown wrong - you can read my threads that handle it.

Yet, we already know how you will respond to being shown wrong: "Fanservice!"

And, here there are a couple pages that explain, precisely, that it was not fanservice and has been in the works for years.

So, it does truly make me a fool. Here I am, trying to impart greater insight and understanding upon someone who may as well be a vegetable.

 

[O n y x]

I hope Naruto gets with Hinata.. But it would be sad if Hinata got hurt.. Sakura shouldn't be allowed to get with Naruto after all that bull she put him through. What kind of person gets constantly saved by Naruto and goes acting like a jerk later? <.<

 

[Atalaya]

Can I stop seeing this in my new posts section lololXD

 

[Aim64C]

I hope Naruto gets with Hinata.. But it would be sad if Hinata got hurt.. Sakura shouldn't be allowed to get with Naruto after all that bull she put him through. What kind of person gets constantly saved by Naruto and goes acting like a jerk later? <.<

Well, to be fair - that's turning a blind eye toward Naruto.

I think we've lost a few things in translation regarding the interactions between Naruto and Hinata (for example, a few people have said that the words she uses during her 'confession' mean 'I like Naruto a lot' ; I notice, myself, a lack of the phrase 'ai' during her confession... in context, it implies that she loves him... but we know how Naruto is with context) - but he's still seems to have pined after Sakura despite rather forward moves by Hinata.

So it can be quite easily said that Naruto doesn't deserve Hinata. Though it's not entirely clear if his seeming neglect is due to misunderstandings, or what.

 

[Atalaya]

Well, to be fair - that's turning a blind eye toward Naruto.

I think we've lost a few things in translation regarding the interactions between Naruto and Hinata (for example, a few people have said that the words she uses during her 'confession' mean 'I like Naruto a lot' ; I notice, myself, a lack of the phrase 'ai' during her confession... in context, it implies that she loves him... but we know how Naruto is with context) - but he's still seems to have pined after Sakura despite rather forward moves by Hinata.

So it can be quite easily said that Naruto doesn't deserve Hinata. Though it's not entirely clear if his seeming neglect is due to misunderstandings, or what.

In Japan they mostly use "daisuki" when confessing.
Suki=Like
Daisuki=Like a lot or love, depends on the situation.
Aishiteru=Love. This also depends on the situation but is used in rare cases. If Hinata said "Watashi wa Naruto-kun ga aishiteru dakara," it would've been kind of weird lolool.

 

[Aim64C]

In Japan they mostly use "daisuki" when confessing.
Suki=Like
Daisuki=Like a lot or love, depends on the situation.
Aishiteru=Love. This also depends on the situation but is used in rare cases. If Hinata said "Watashi wa Naruto-kun ga aishiteru dakara," it would've been kind of weird lolool.

I get the feeling that there is a lot of stuff that we lose meaning on because of the formal/proper context within Japanese.

Naruto is supposed to be this uncouth, almost barbaric character - so the context cues and everything else fly right out the window. So it's understandable that he could be 'not getting it' when it comes to Hinata.

But, still... cute girl throws herself in front of certain death saying "I like you a lot" ... should trigger some basic masculine instinct, somewhere.

 

[Craziie]

I get the feeling that there is a lot of stuff that we lose meaning on because of the formal/proper context within Japanese.

Naruto is supposed to be this uncouth, almost barbaric character - so the context cues and everything else fly right out the window. So it's understandable that he could be 'not getting it' when it comes to Hinata.

But, still... cute girl throws herself in front of certain death saying "I like you a lot" ... should trigger some basic masculine instinct, somewhere.

Lets just let it go, bro U_U
He will only yell bullcrap to justifify him not being to counter anything you said, proving you wrong, thus leaving the discussion.

You see how he ignored my post.