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There is nothing to explain, really. Those pararells do exist, and I just dont think that Kishi would put them in his manga for no reasons.

Only, Tsunade fell for Jiraiya advances in the end.

You are saying that both can be somehow the hokage's wife, right?
 

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There is nothing to explain, really. Those pararells do exist, and I just dont think that Kishi would put them in his manga for no reasons.

Only, Tsunade fell for Jiraiya advances in the end.

No, she agreed to go on a date if he came back.
She didn't fall in love with him.

She loves Dan, as this war arc has shown.
 

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Pretty much. But aside from that, it also connects Sakura to Uzumaki clan.

But now we have got various hokage canditates, what if the Hokage ends up being Sasuke?
 

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But now we have got various hokage canditates, what if the Hokage ends up being Sasuke?
I think that story-wise its simply impossible. Naruto is the main character and he wanted to be Hogake from the very beginning.
 

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Pretty much. But aside from that, it also connects Sakura to Uzumaki clan.


Thats what I was saying.

You do know love and a date are two different things?
 

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I think that story-wise its simply impossible. Naruto is the main character and he wanted to be Hogake from the very beginning.

But we are talking about Paralels here and altough i dont aprove the idea, its possible that Naruto may do the same as Hashirama did to Maddara, offer the Hokage title to Sasuke, the uchiha.
 

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What are you talking about? I never said anything about love.

Fell for his advances? That would mean she fell for him?
She didn't by the way, but whatever.

NaruSaku FTW, because Naruto likes but she doesn't like him.
Just like NaruHina...
 

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Fell for his advances? That would mean she fell for him?
Sigh... I never said she fell for him.
But we are talking about Paralels here and altough i dont aprove the idea, its possible that Naruto may do the same as Hashirama did to Maddara, offer the Hokage title to Sasuke, the uchiha.
I see that as possible scenario but only if shinobi world will trully unite after the war. If that happens they will need someone as supreme leader. Basically, Kages would be serving as his captains in respective villages. That supreme leader would be Naruto of course.
 

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There is nothing to explain, really. Those pararells do exist, and I just dont think that Kishi would put them in his manga for no reasons.

Only, Tsunade fell for Jiraiya advances in the end.

uhhh...:eek:h:
 

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Naruto from the begging has been her inspiration and motivation, without this she would have never tried to better herself, her character development revolves in this mainly. The cheering in the chuuning exams, the blood bow, saving her from the zetsus. Small things that actually mean alot. Is because Naruto has always been her inspiration that she tries to help him as much as she can. And for a side character she tends to be there in moments that would be more crucial if it was Sakura.

Actually, he didn't took it more serious but view it as another reason to bring him back. Actually the only thing he saids to say is "how can I tell her, when I can't even save one friend" he never saids love just something to point out. Also, when the fake confession happen he doesn't believe her because he knows that she's in love with Sasuke, is not that he's convince, he knows it. After all is because of this that he practically did a back-off and tried not to pursued Sakura like before.

All that in bold is not Naruto doing something for her directly. Alot of people inspire me but that doesn't mean their motives are based around me which is exactly the case. What cruicial moments? She's had two.

Tell her what? That he loves if that's what he couldn't do. He convinced himself i would say he doesn't know her heart so him rejecting it was his disbelief she could be over him. He didn't exactly back off IMO hes never been like part 1 Naruto to her in shippuden hes older now.

She has not come to terms with yet but has had enough chapters already to do so as well. You make it sound like I can't debate just because I'm not a NaruHina fan. Nice.

She's had enough time AS WELL to have closure with Sasuke when he tried to kill her. Twice. In the same day. Hinata already stated that by the end of the war she would be walking at Narutos side holding his hand. Or something like that. Like I said you shouldn't judge the pairing fans who you say won't wait until the end of the manga when NaruSaku fans also make threads to prove NaruSaku is going to happen when they've stated it more than once. I find it really funny how NaruSaku fans are so confident NS is going to be canon but if that was the case why the constant spam against NaruHina. It's their preferred pairing and like I said if you NaruSaku fans know NS is much more possible than NH they wouldn't be going around bashing and debunking NaruHina whenever they get the chance. Say what you will but NaruSaku fans aren't as confident as they sound because even they know (unless they're in denial) that Kishimoto has the last word no matter what logical reasons they hold over NaruHina or even SasuSaku.

Well if you are in defense of it i will think of you as a NaruHina fan because it seems to be your preferred pairing.

The last time she met him before this current one, it was kinda left off on a limb. Not much room for closure there.

Also i believe she stated she would not chase him after this war, which implies yes she would like for them to be together but at the same time if at that point nothing happens her words of not chasing him anymore would still stand i'd say.

Theories i don't mind any pairing can make theories, it's just no matter how much we do we are still waiting for them to come true to see if our ideas had any substance. We aren't out right calling it cannon. Most of the ones i discuss with that is. Also, both pairings spam up on each other so don't you dare imply we are the attackers :whip:

Again, they do the same they try to debunk ours and we answer them. With what we read in his manga we hold majority of the puzzle pieces. We are as confident as they are, because both pairings seem to debate alot, the mere fact that i know this is true is because we are talking about it right now. And yes kishimoto does have the final say so since you guys aren't the ones who are saying 'it's cannon deal with it' I even saw one this week i believe it was titles 'NaruHina still stands'. They aren't any better than us.
 

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No, it seems the "Hinata is owed Naruto's affection" is the unspoken reason adopted by NaruHina supporters.

This kills me. Do Hinata and Naru/Hina fans NOT see how INHERENTLY misogynistic the above point of view is? :what:

I STILL can't get a NaruHina fan to address this besides the one person that doesn't subscribe to this train of thought.

This is quite telling.
 

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Indeed. I do tend to see it quite a bit of these forums and would like someone who thinks that way to explain that thought process because it's inherently hateful to Hinata. :what:

I think that the reason why people use this as an example on to why NaruHina should happen is because they want to see both characters happy? In terms more specific, People want Hinata, a girl that is an underdog that has been shone by her family and that got inspired and motivated by one single boy to always look forward no matter what, to get the guy that she first admired, then crush on and the fell in love with because she 'deserves' happiness. In Naruto's case I think is that they want someone that loves Naruto not only by his pros but also his cons, like his perverseness to his 'blonde' moments if you could say (no offense to blondes)? someone to show him that he is love no matter how he is or acts. Or at least that's what I understand when they explained the reason why they use that phrase.
 

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All that in bold is not Naruto doing something for her directly. Alot of people inspire me but that doesn't mean their motives are based around me which is exactly the case. What cruicial moments? She's had two.

Tell her what? That he loves if that's what he couldn't do. He convinced himself i would say he doesn't know her heart so him rejecting it was his disbelief she could be over him. He didn't exactly back off IMO hes never been like part 1 Naruto to her in shippuden hes older now.
So you are telling me that when she was fighting with Neji when he cheer for her mean nothing? When she was about to be taken away and she saids "did I proof myself well" and he decides to do a blood oat in her honor is nothing and when she was going to be attack by the Zetsu clones and he saves her, she starts to feel upset because she feels like she isn't strong enough because she got save again by him and he goes and tells her "don't worry you are strong is all in your eyes" making her believe in herself again, is not something he did directly for her? then explained to me than what is doing something directly then, because i think you and I view things differently.

If I remember, I corrected that part because the words they use is 'like' instead of love and to me liking someone is not as strong as loving.However, I still believe he has a thing for her, but so far he has always stated it to be a crush and him liking her, but compare to Sakura and Hinata, who both have use the words love to express their feelings. Actually, when he started backing off was when he promise to bring him back, later in the hospital doing the same by telling her he would get strong and bring him home. When he returns in Shippuden he tries again to pursue her, but all that time he still knows she's in love with Sasuke those tries to win her heart again.Those the flashback with Sai appears since he notices Naruto trying, however is true that he is not like the immature Naruto in part 1, but he was shown already asking her out in both anime and manga which is something he use to do in part 1, that tells us he's trying to see if he can win her heart. Naruto and everyone have always known that Sakura loves Sasuke, those the reason why he and everyone else didn't believe her when she confess to him. After this everyone started thinking "maybe she finally started falling for Naruto" but then chapter 540 ( I think it was)happen, when the Iwa ninja comes and confesses to her and she said she's in love with someone else, we are reassure again that she's still in love with Sasuke even though she knows he's not such good guy as the Iwa ninja assume the person that she loves is. Also after the fake confession many people started assuming that Naruto started getting over Sakura, I for ones didn't see this and always continue to say to people that he still likes her, but I will tell you one thing. When chapter 631 happen I started having dough's because of the way he answer a simple question that he would always go around and say "yes, she is".
 

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I think that the reason why people use this as an example on to why NaruHina should happen is because they want to see both characters happy? In terms more specific, People want Hinata, a girl that is an underdog that has been shone by her family and that got inspired and motivated by one single boy to always look forward no matter what, to get the guy that she first admired, then crush on and the fell in love with because she 'deserves' happiness. In Naruto's case I think is that they want someone that loves Naruto not only by his pros but also his cons, like his perverseness to his 'blonde' moments if you could say (no offense to blondes)? someone to show him that he is love no matter how he is or acts. Or at least that's what I understand when they explained the reason why they use that phrase.

I can understand the appeal of the pairing, but saying Hinata "deserves" the male hero's love as an argument in lieu of feelings the hero isn't showing is inherently sexist. It makes her sound like the only reason she exists is to be a competitor for his affection and she "deserves" him for her dedication to the cause.

It's disgusting.
 
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I can understand the appeal of the pairing, but saying Hinata "deserves" the male hero's love as an argument in lieu of feelings the hero isn't showing is inherently sexist. It makes her sound like the only reason she exists is to be a competitor for his affection and she "deserves" him for her dedication to the cause.

It's disgusting.
reason why i don't agree with that argument, plus i don't think deserving someone is enough reason for a couple to be.
 

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All that in bold is not Naruto doing something for her directly. Alot of people inspire me but that doesn't mean their motives are based around me which is exactly the case. What cruicial moments? She's had two.

Tell her what? That he loves if that's what he couldn't do. He convinced himself i would say he doesn't know her heart so him rejecting it was his disbelief she could be over him. He didn't exactly back off IMO hes never been like part 1 Naruto to her in shippuden hes older now.



Well if you are in defense of it i will think of you as a NaruHina fan because it seems to be your preferred pairing.

The last time she met him before this current one, it was kinda left off on a limb. Not much room for closure there.

Also i believe she stated she would not chase him after this war, which implies yes she would like for them to be together but at the same time if at that point nothing happens her words of not chasing him anymore would still stand i'd say.

Theories i don't mind any pairing can make theories, it's just no matter how much we do we are still waiting for them to come true to see if our ideas had any substance. We aren't out right calling it cannon. Most of the ones i discuss with that is. Also, both pairings spam up on each other so don't you dare imply we are the attackers :whip:

Again, they do the same they try to debunk ours and we answer them. With what we read in his manga we hold majority of the puzzle pieces. We are as confident as they are, because both pairings seem to debate alot, the mere fact that i know this is true is because we are talking about it right now. And yes kishimoto does have the final say so since you guys aren't the ones who are saying 'it's cannon deal with it' I even saw one this week i believe it was titles 'NaruHina still stands'. They aren't any better than us.

Lol! Eat a snickers. You're not you when you're butt hurt :hint:. How dare I imply that you are the attackers? Fine let me put it this way BOTH SIDES attack each other yes. But I'm going by what happened during the last chapter. Where some NaruSaku fans claimed NS was sure fire canon. You just admitted that with the NaruSaku fans you've talked with haven't done that but what about the ones you haven't? Hmm? NH and NS fans like to play innocent and claim they're just the bigger victim. Don't get upset when all I did was ask a question over what I've seen. Yes NaruSaku fans are just as confident granted but my question IS why, if NaruSaku fans claim that they have much more evidence and logical reasoning that NS will happen, why get so defensive against NaruHina. When even they don't have the amount NaruSaku fans are usually giving.

No sweetheart. That's just a NaruSaku fan habit by the way. XD Someone isn't supporting their precious NaruSaku they're AUTOMATICALLY NaruHina. When was it stated that NaruHina was my preferred pairing? Are that upset because I called out NaruSaku fans? You think I haven't seen when NaruHina fans bash NS as well? Please. It's been a back and forth war between these two sides for quite a while now it even outnumbered SasuSaku for a while.

You seem "to forget" what else she stated after that. Hinata said she would not chase him after the war but wall by his side and be holding his hand. So no. That was invalid. It wasn't said because she wants Naruto and Sakura together. I'm almost not even sure how you got that when Hinata clearly stated she would be walking beside him not chasing him anymore.

Sakura has genuine feelings for Naruto but to what extent? You can't speak on Sakuras behalf when she's clearly shown to still like Sasuke especially in chapter 632. All pairings are still one sided so like I've said for a while now its too early to claim a winner and that goes to ANY OF THE PAIRINGS FANS :snick:
 
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