Nagato's Birth

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We all know Nagato is affiliated with akatsuki.
We know his child story with jiraiya.

We dont know his story with madara however, and it seems to be before and after his time with jiraiya.
Why before?
Well the eyes were given to him by madara, it was part of his plan
Why after?
Because he then was in akatsuki when madara was in power with tobi

Dont you guys think its strange akatsuki origin is in the rain land, the smallest country, and akatsuki becomes one of the most powerful organization once madara seemed to stir things up, ruining the pureness from what yahiko had started?

But this also begs the question of nagatos origin, since tobi referred to him as the 3rd sage, and himself as the 2nd.
That must mean nagato came after obitos syncing to tobi, and after madara dying, so that nagato could revive him.

Another words nagato didnt know of madara in person since he had to revive him, yet madara knew about nagato.

Call me crazy but im havin thoughts of nagato being born from the gedo mazou somehow since hashi is trapped and madara is connected.

The timeline of nagato could then be: madara, jiraiya, tobi, then to revive madara for all 3 of original people in madaras to be there at once.
Tobis plan was always madaras people in mind, but tobi also used his own people that madara didnt know, like the rest of the akatsuki members.

Also when kabuto saw the gedo for first time, the gedos hands were cuffed together, possibly being where nagato is born?
This could also explain why nagato could link to the gedo and have those powers from it, he does possess is the 7th path afterall, that madara wanted. Since no other rinnegan can do the 7th path but nagato (guess you have to have uzumaki)

What then could be said about madara lendin his eyes to someone else is that he obtained them all right but not directly, he entrusted them to nagato.

Idk these are just thoughts dont hate, im not restricting the fact that this could all be bullshit and madara did transplant
 

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i call you crazy at the mazo part (jk)

but you have a good point about maadara/nagato knowing eachother..

also obito was refering to himself as the "2nd" so6p because he was playing madara.. nagato is truly the 3rd though
 

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Also i wamted to point out that when madara came back to life from edo tensei he said, "looks like nagato was raised well" as if he knew nagato started from the birth
 

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No tobi is the 2nd, a fake second, while i do agree nagato is not a fake incarnation.
Tobi is senju and uchiha, he can use izanagi, and rinnegan, thats power of sage
 

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erm... not bad...

But I think Nagato was a natural born and is related to either Madara or Mito or both xd
 

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No tobi is the 2nd, a fake second, while i do agree nagato is not a fake incarnation.
Tobi is senju and uchiha, he can use izanagi, and rinnegan, thats power of sage

the first one who awakened the rinnegan beside so6p was madara
 

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Yep and he awakened them fakely, with the help of hashirama

Tobi in a way is madara so in a way is still the 2nd fake
 

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So6p, Madara Uchiha= 2nd Sage, Nagato= 3rd Sage, Obito=4th Sage
 
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