Nagato vs Team Kage

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Summons are absolute non factor as not a single one of them can keep up with lightened raikage level speed and can be oneshotted by Nukite.

Muu was never shown being able to lighten others, nor does he know anything about Nagato to determine that the Raikage's speed isn't enough, and thus he has no reason to utilise that strategy.

Nagato is not summoning the chamaleon and crawling in its mouth before Raikage can close the gap between them and target the general area,

In which case he gets his cloak absorbed off of him by Preta and Soul Ripped, as I stated in my initial post.

not to mention the 4th Kazekage can detect the chamaleon by spreading gold dust around like how Gaara detected the Mizukage's clam.

Where is the proof that the 4th Kazekage has Sensor Sand like Gaara?

If Nagato makes it rain to reveal the general location of Mizukage's clam then he also reveals his own location inside the chamaleon.

That doesn't matter much as Nagato only needs the rain out for as long as he needs to find the clam. And that's also assuming that the chameleon stays in the same spot while invisible instead of moving around. If the chameleon moves around, then it will be hard for the kages to keep track of it, regardless of whether the rain gives away his general location or not.

Cerberus does not need to be taken out, it can literally be ignored here or Raikage cuts off all its heads in one sweep just like he cut off all the Hachibi's tails in one strike.

Which will result in even more dogs to deal with. None of the Raikage's attacks can put the Cerberus down.

Large-scale jinton can be used to eradicate summons and if Mu uses jinton behind the Raikage who can be used as a human shield, Nagato can't hurt him even if he can detect him when he goes visible.

Except for the fact that if he does that he ends up destroying/severely damaging the Raikage, whereas Nagato will still sense the chakra buildup for Jinton and absorb it with Preta. And it doesn't matter much if Mu is behind the Raikage, Nagato simply pulls Mu in with BT, seeing that he can pick out specific targets with that technique.

@Bold, uh what? Nagato got ,

How is showing Nagato reacting to a Lariat by absorbing Bee's V2 cloak proof that he got blitzed by Lariat?

him reacting to lightened Raikage is a joke as his sensing doesn't have the feats to prove he can react, and the extra viewpoints are non factor when they can't visually track him.

Nagato sensed Amaterasu before it was cast, and displayed superior sensing feats to Mu (being able to realise Kabuto was behind ET and sense his exact location while Mu and even thought it was Tobirama), who was able to get in the way of lightened Ay, and dodge Naruto's Rasengan whilst charging a Jinton. What is a joke is assuming Nagato won't be able to react to the canonically slower Third Raikage when Mu was able to do so against Ay. And this is assuming Mu even can lighten others with the same level of skill as Onoki.
 

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First of all, did Muu ever shown to do anything regardind weightning or making something lighter besides his own flight? I just think is a little far fetched apply all of Oonoki's feats to him seeing as he could not even light himself up after being weightened down by Oonoki.

Yes, he's shown he can use lightened weight tech to fly. It's implied that's the way Muu and Onoki fly in the manga, and it's confirmed in databook 4.

God, no. Lol

Um, yes.

Rain. Tiger. At. Will. And even if you keep denying is contact sensing, He can just watch the rain drops ricochet from his body Lol

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See this "aura" of water that forms around you while you are on the rain? Yeah... He can't hide.
And Im pretty sure Rinnegan can see him...

My favorite part about your argument is that you used a picture from the anime to support your premise instead of an actual manga scan. No, databook specifically states that it's a chakra-based type of sensing. Seeing where the water is not hitting is a good way of detecting larger invisible objects, like Mizukage's clam, but a human-sized object is not so discernable. There would be raindrops pouring down in front of Mu, behind him, and all sides of him, and Nagato won't be able to see through the haze of the rain on top of that, especially since the Rinnegan is not a discerning eye like the sharingan is.

Actually, this combo works because out dear Nagato can do something called multy-task. Meaning: He can keep his preta path shield, that covers all around him. Nukite won't ever touch him. Fun facto is, He did all that while simultaniously ripping Naruto's soul out. So when his Nukite and Raiton cloak is out (seeing that the entirety of Bee's v2 cloack got sucked in one touch), He then proceeds to grab and rio his soul out.

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And this combo is useless, because as I have stated, Raikage doesn't need Nukite to KO Nagato, . When Nagato uses BT to draw Raikage into close combat, Raikage punches him and Nagato gets knocked unconscious.

He got "blitzed" But still managed to take zero damage from an attack that busted Kisame's ribcage open (and don't come saying that's because he was an Edo. We did not see any paper or signos He was damaged by said attack) and He managed to rio Bee's cloak on the process


Thats just the things that I tought required a comeback...
Just saying...
Nagato wins this. I didn't even mentioned things like Gedo Mazo, Chibaku Tensei and Cho Shinra Tensei...

1. He absorbed part of the cloak on contact, weakening the Lariat's power
2. Yes he did take damage, there were Edo flakes

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Nagato regenerated from the attack because of his Edo body.
 

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Yes, he's shown he can use lightened weight tech to fly. It's implied that's the way Muu and Onoki fly in the manga, and it's confirmed in databook 4.

Only shown feats. No hype or implied techniques

My favorite part about your argument is that you used a picture from the anime to support your premise instead of an actual manga scan. No, databook specifically states that it's a chakra-based type of sensing. Seeing where the water is not hitting is a good way of detecting larger invisible objects, like Mizukage's clam, but a human-sized object is not so discernable. There would be raindrops pouring down in front of Mu, behind him, and all sides of him, and Nagato won't be able to see through the haze of the rain on top of that, especially since the Rinnegan is not a discerning eye like the sharingan is.
And how can you back up that?
P.s: Before being condescending about me using a anime picture, it was just to visualize how rain appears when falling upon someone. Get out of your high horse.



And this combo is useless, because as I have stated, Raikage doesn't need Nukite to KO Nagato, . When Nagato uses BT to draw Raikage into close combat, Raikage punches him and Nagato gets knocked unconscious.
Do you honestly think that a single punch from him would knock out someone with a robotic body given by shurado? And im not even factoring how he can use his summons viewpoints and grow extra faces to pinpoint him before he attack and immobilize him.



1. He absorbed part of the cloak on contact, weakening the Lariat's power
2. Yes he did take damage, there were Edo flakes

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Nagato regenerated from the attack because of his Edo body.

So he will simply use the chakra he absorved to heal himself, seeing as he used it to regenerate himself from his emanciated state.
 

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Nope its a means of contact sensing, the rain drops themselves are imbued with nagatos chakra so they are directly linked to him, as any one with a chakra different from nagato that gets into contact with the rain drops would be located,
muu hides his chakra but its still there, so when the rain drops hit him, nagato detects an invisible chakra and attacks muu


Raindrops detect chakra. Muu hides his chakra. No chakra = raindrops aren't picking it up. Just because the raindrops make physical contact with Muu doesn't make it a form of contact sensing, since it's chakra that is being used to actually detect targets. "Muu hides his chakra but it is still there" is irrelevant, he hides his chakra so it can't be picked up by chakra-sensing jutsu.

Not seeing why the rinnegan cant see through the clam genjutsu,
and even then Rain tiger at will helps him get an idea of the clams location so it gets taken care of


Lol when has Rinnegan, ever seen through a genjutsu? If Nagato uses Rain Tiger to detect the clam, he's also exposing his own location inside the chamaleon.

yes he will as already explained above,
the very moment when the rain drops hit muu, nagato would be able to sense his presense and since the rain drops are directly imbued with nagatos senses, he would be able to locate him and take him out
there is also the fact that unlike other dojutsus, so muus invisbility can also be countered througgh that, though thats not the only thing nagato could do

No it won't because as I said Rain Tiger can only pick up chakra, Muu who extinguishes his chakra can't be detected that way. Rinnegan seeing massive Konoha barrier imbued with chakra =/= Nagato seeing Muu who hides his chakra. Yes Rinnegan , so this point is moot.

it gives a rough indication but can still allow nagato into sneak attacking chars such as muu or third raikage,

No it does not. Lightened Raikage too fast for Nagato to keep up with visually or with his senses, he can't track Raikage let alone land a sneak attack on him. If he uses Rain Tiger he exposes his location and Nukite kills the chameleon.

both of them get drawn in by BT and then restrained by shurado, as once that happens its a GG,
the human shield only prevents him from large scale ST, however thats not needed when nagato can kill 2 birds with one stone

Lol nukite tears through Shurado arms no difficulty, if they come out before Raikage is fully drawn in to Nagato, he sees them coming and cuts through them. If Nagato draws Raikage in fully, a punch knocks him out before he can use Shurado arms.

Even if Nagato somehow restrains Raikage, Muu kills him. Muu is invisible on Raikage's back, so when Nagato uses BT to draw in the Raikage, Muu hops off the Raikage's back and kills Nagato with an invisible sword attack. Nagato can't use BT on Muu because Muu is behind the Raikage - nor would Nagato even know Mu's location if he's invisible.

Why isnt it?
especially when
nagatos sensing feats are comparable to his if not even better, seeing how he was

not seeing why he gets blitzed by raikage
and unlike muu, he doesnt need to physically evade his attacks, to counter them,

You completely misinterpreted scan. Top panel, Ay and Onoki haven't begun moving yet. Middle right panel, they shunshin out of the way and "Muu" (Kabuto) realizes he can't track them, hence the exclamation point. Kabuto notes in the middle left panel that Ay/Onoki are too fast for him to track, but then reassures himself that it doesn't matter if he can't track them and gets hit, since it would be a light punch (or so he thought). On the next panel, . Nowhere in there did Muu track the lightened Raikage. Nagato being able to sense Kabuto's chakra is irrelevant. It's ridiculous to think Nagato can track lightened raikage, much less react to him.

its relevant because preta would completely diminish the power of the raikages attacks,
and itll make it moot just how it did to bees lariat which could have wrecked nagato yet it clearly didnt

Lol not this again...KidGamer65 already explained this to you in that Gokage vs Nagato group discussion. Preta completely diminishes power of Raikage's attacks? . Are you seriously telling me that Nagato outright tanked Bee's lariat? You really think he would have survived that if he was alive, when ?

I wont consider muu to have the aggravated rock technique but even if he does it wont do much
mainly due to the fact that to do that, the raikage needs to get heavier,, which decreases his speed, and allows nagato to blow him back with ST or restrain him with shurado

I never said Mu would use aggravated rock technique, I said he would undo his lightened tech on the Raikage just prior to the moment before striking, . Nagato can't react to him in that brief moment where Raikage is at his normal speed again (Raikage is too damn fast on his own anyway.)

Not seeing how the raikage could tank CST
they both get pasted from it

Raikage is at least as durable as a V4 Susanoo which would be eradicated by CST, but the user inside would take no damage. His RNY would get knocked off but he himself would tank the attack, if he is more durable than Susanoo. If he is only equally durable as V4, then CST may kill him, however his body acts as a shield for Muu and takes all the damage (whereas Muu takes none), meaning Muu survives. Since Nagato's Deva abilities are gone after using CST, Muu can go invisible and kill Nagato with his sword.

and how is he going to do that?
his invisiblity is moot infront of RTAW and Rinnegan, so any attempts that he might have at attacking him get him restrained the same way that it would to the raikage
and his jinton iis also moot infront of preta,
so no matter how you look at it, muu is not doing much at all

Already covered this but I'll post it again.

Even if Nagato somehow restrains Raikage, Muu kills him. Muu is invisible on Raikage's back, so when Nagato uses BT to draw in the Raikage, Muu hops off the Raikage's back and kills Nagato with an invisible sword attack. Nagato can't use BT on Muu because Muu is behind the Raikage - nor would Nagato even know Mu's location if he's invisible.

How is muu doing that? all you're telling me is that he assassinates him without an explanation
furthermore if CST takes out everyone bar Muu, than Deva is noot even needed to take muu out when he cant do shit here
muu gets located, and then attacked by multiple summons and missiles,

Because he isn't getting located, as I've already explained. Fodder missiles that Choji outran are evaded no difficulty anyway. No summons are doing a thing to an aerial opponent except the bird which gets killed by jinton.

Except he can pick muu off,
when BT pulls them both in, , and either pinning muu down with chakra rods, or finishing him off with ningendo

No he can't, if Muu is behind the Raikage's back, as I've explained.

if CT draws muu in towards it, than jinton wont be cutting it, since muu would be constantly getting hit by the rocks,
otherwise jinton can work, but CT is not needed here, its only a GG with muu out of the picture

Muu can actually fly while prepping jinton so rocks aren't getting in the way of him aiming. Rocks won't be hitting Muu since the rocks are getting pulled in by the gravitational force at the same speed Muu is. If a brick and a penny are dropped from the same height at the same time, they hit the ground at the same time, mass is irrelevant to gravity. You ignored the fact that Lightened Raikage can jump from rock to rock until he reaches the core, where he destroys it with nukite. Or Muu can lighten the CT and nullify its gravitational effects with jinton.

Except,
so even if muu is behind the raikage,, nagato can focus his force on to both of them and they both die,
whats worse is that CST iis a repulsive force, so if muu is behind the raikage then they get pushed back, and muu would be the one falling flat under gravity with the raikage on top of him, so either way they pasted

Nope, I took that into consideration. Raikage still takes all the damage from a focused CST while Muu remains safe.

moreover nagato ddoesnt even need deva to repel back muu from attacking him,
missiles do the trick just fine, or shurado limbs restrain him the moment he comes up close, and with chameleon aiding nagato into sneak attacks, means that muu gets restrained just how KCM naruto did,

Nagato can't detect Muu so Deva is his only way of dealing with him.
 

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Why isnt it?
especially when Muu was able to sense lightened Ay coming at him well before he executed his attack,
nagatos sensing feats are comparable to his if not even better, seeing how he was the only edo being able to sense kabutos chakra

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I already told you why this is invalid a long time ago. No clue why you are still using it.
 

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Only shown feats. No hype or implied techniques

Yes, and Muu showed the ability to fly. Flying = using lightened weight technique. It's 100% confirmed that Muu can use it.

And how can you back up that?
P.s: Before being condescending about me using a anime picture, it was just to visualize how rain appears when falling upon someone. Get out of your high horse.

I don't need to prove it. Rinnegan never showed any feats of being able to discern small details or tiny movement, even a 3 tomoe sharingan has better discerning feats.

Do you honestly think that a single punch from him would knock out someone with a robotic body given by shurado? And im not even factoring how he can use his summons viewpoints and grow extra faces to pinpoint him before he attack and immobilize him.

Knock him out, at the very least. I've knocked someone out before with a punch, and 3rd raikage with superhuman strength by manga standards where most characters have above-average strength >>>> me.

So he will simply use the chakra he absorved to heal himself, seeing as he used it to regenerate himself from his emanciated state.

Chakra doesn't heal Nagato, it never did, he's not Kisame. Nagato's hair went white from chakra depletion, not poor health.
 

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When did Muu get Ohnoki's abilities? Lol
CT one shots them all.
No need to further debate this.
 

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Nagato probably wins this more times than not

preta has already showed the ability to negate the impact and damage from chakra based attacks, as shown how nagato was compeltely unaffected by bees lariat through the use of gakido, so the raikages attacks are not helping much, he gets his chakra taken away and then asura path can restrain him, just how it restrained bee, getting human path to kill him off
rinnegan can see through the clam, or even muu most likely, if it cant see muu than nagatos rain helps him locate muu and finish him off
joki boy is not doing much either, when it leaves the mizukage a sitting duck to get killed

chou shinra tensei turns everyone to dust here too so its a GG
 

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Team kages stomp tbh, Raikage tanks anything except Chibaku tensei, No way in helll will they let him use Chibaku tensei.
 

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Lmao at beans getting overwhelmed by so many people.

I'd say the kages can win. Animal summons get buried by gold dust. Asura rockets are evaded or tanked by the defences of the kages. Deva path's time interval can be exploited by the 3rd Raikage or even the 4th Kazekage. CT is countered with jinton and CST's impact can be reduced allowing 3rd Raikage and Gengetsu (with hydrificaiton, to survive). A Nagato without Deva probably loses to these two.
 

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Really? People think Mū can just lighten himself but not others? People think Mū can just use Doton: Kajūgan no Jutsu without knowing Doton: Keijūgan no Jutsu, even though he was the Tsuchikage?

I'll repeat what I said to another poster on this forum: there's more to a character's abilities than just feats. Just because a character has never shown something that is within his/her ability to do, does not mean that he/she cannot do it.

Keep in mind that Mū was Ōnoki's teacher. It's highly likely that Mū taught him how to utilize Earth Release techniques since it is a component of the Dust Release. Also, it doesn't make sense to have Kajūgan without Keijūgan, considering they're the inverses of the other.

I shouldn't need feats to prove that Mū can use this technique, along with Doton: Chōkajūgan/keijūgan no Jutsu. This principle applies to other characters as well. For example, I don't need feats to prove that the Third Raikage can use Lightning Release: Black Panther even though he never showed it in the manga. I could go on, and on with this.

With that said, I haven't seen a single argument that changes my mind about this matchup. Forget Rasa; Mū, Gengetsu, and Ay take this.
 

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Lmao at beans getting overwhelmed by so many people.

I'd say the kages can win. Animal summons get buried by gold dust. Asura rockets are evaded or tanked by the defences of the kages. Deva path's time interval can be exploited by the 3rd Raikage or even the 4th Kazekage. CT is countered with jinton and CST's impact can be reduced allowing 3rd Raikage and Gengetsu (with hydrificaiton, to survive). A Nagato without Deva probably loses to these two.

CST from the starts ends him.(Gaara's fodder dad.) What defences? Evaded how? There guided missiles. What can he do? Nukite is absorbed there is no physical strength feats from the 3rd suggesting he can crumble metal/steel with his bare hands. CT can be countered via Jinton ill give you that. CST there is a difference between CST and Full scale Shira Tensei.

If a Full scale shira Tensei is used they all die even The mizukage; hydrificaiton body has a damaged limit suigetsu being surround by water and being inside water increased his by a great margin a full scale Shira Tensei is more destructive than a Bijuudama especially a blast Bijuudama if a full scale Shira Tensei is used all the kages die a horrible death.
 

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I'll go with Nagato High difficulty though Kages can win if they play their cards right.


Muu completely hides his chakra so Rinnegan won't be able to see him. RTAW might not be able to sense him the way it's supposed to but it could be used in a different way. That way involves Muu's invisible self being hit by the raindrops. When that happens, Nagato will be able to see a figure moving through the rain by using Asura to grow 2 more nasty faces in his head for a better field of vision. RTAW would render his own chameleon useless though since the Kages would be able to see a figure moving in the Rain as well so Nagato won't be able to sneek attack anyone either. Not to mention, the advantage that water could give the Kages when faced with Raikage's electricity. Nagato himself might not be affected (the other Kages either if they take flight through Gold dust) but the summon on the ground will get electricuted and fried.

This is an example of how Nagato's technique could be used against him.


CT could be erased in it's early stages through Jinton. Since Muu can't really do much to Nagato, he can play a support role. Gold dust can be used in different ways such as making walls or trying to decrease Nagato's field of vision and creating a flat surface in the sky to prevent RTAW from being a factor. It could also be used offensively to get rid oriimmobilize the summons. Though Nagato can absorb the chakra from the dust, a giant falling Spike or sphere could still crush him though ST could be used to repel it. If he does repel and enters the interval, Raikage can take advantage of it by attacking with a Golden Sword aha.


I'll give it to Nagato but the Kages can win.
 

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Muu was never shown being able to lighten others, nor does he know anything about Nagato to determine that the Raikage's speed isn't enough, and thus he has no reason to utilise that strategy.

Muu can lighten himself therefore he can lighten others since it's the same technique. "He doesn't know if the speed will be enough so he won't use it"...? What a poor argument. There's no reason he wouldn't try it against Nagato, intel isn't necessary to execute this combo. He's not just going to assume it's not fast enough.

In which case he gets his cloak absorbed off of him by Preta and Soul Ripped, as I stated in my initial post.

I've already countered that strategy in my initial post. If Nagato engages Raikage in close combat, Raikage punches his lights out.

Where is the proof that the 4th Kazekage has Sensor Sand like Gaara?

...He doesn't need sensor sand. Spreads out his grains of dust around the battlefield = large invisible objects are revealed since the sand is hitting them like .

That doesn't matter much as Nagato only needs the rain out for as long as he needs to find the clam. And that's also assuming that the chameleon stays in the same spot while invisible instead of moving around. If the chameleon moves around, then it will be hard for the kages to keep track of it, regardless of whether the rain gives away his general location or not.

Using rain to find the clam = revealing his location inside chamaleon since the two summons can be detected the exact same way. We are talking about four different kages here, you seriously think they will lose sight of the chamaelon when its position is plainly revealed by the rain? Or the kazekage's gold dust?

Which will result in even more dogs to deal with. None of the Raikage's attacks can put the Cerberus down.

If all the heads are cut off at once then more heads can't grow because the dog literally has no brain.

Except for the fact that if he does that he ends up destroying/severely damaging the Raikage, whereas Nagato will still sense the chakra buildup for Jinton and absorb it with Preta. And it doesn't matter much if Mu is behind the Raikage, Nagato simply pulls Mu in with BT, seeing that he can pick out specific targets with that technique.

Did I say Muu would target Nagato with jinton? No, he would target the summons behind the Raikage, not in front of him so Raikage wouldn't be in the way of his jinton. @Bold when has Bansho Tenin ever been used, where the target being drawn in is already behind another object?

How is showing Nagato reacting to a Lariat by absorbing Bee's V2 cloak proof that he got blitzed by Lariat?

Because Nagato didn't react. He got hit by the attack, then absorbed the cloak. Nagato got nailed by the lariat, just like how the Raikage will nail him with a punch. Not to mention Lightened Raikage is faster than V2 Bee.

Nagato sensed Amaterasu before it was cast, and displayed superior sensing feats to Mu (being able to realise Kabuto was behind ET and sense his exact location while Mu and even thought it was Tobirama), who was able to get in the way of lightened Ay, and dodge Naruto's Rasengan whilst charging a Jinton. What is a joke is assuming Nagato won't be able to react to the canonically slower Third Raikage when Mu was able to do so against Ay. And this is assuming Mu even can lighten others with the same level of skill as Onoki.

Nagato sensed Amaterasu before it was cast, but did that enable him to dodge it? Nope. Sensing something =/= reacting to it. Nagato's sensing being superior to Muu's is irrelevant as we're not talking about Muu's sensing here. We're talking about lightened Raikage's speed. Nagato has poor reaction feats, seeing how he got blitzed by Bee's lariat, nothing suggests he can keep up with lightened Raikage's speed level and react. @Bold, lol what? Muu got blitzed by base Ay ( ), he never reacted. @Underline, lol I'm in tears Muu was portrayed as superior to Onoki in every way. Speculating that Muu will be worse than Onoki at using lightened weight is not an argument.
 

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Nagato can react to his speed when he can simply put Preta path up which would absorb his Ration armor and nukite. Nukite is nothing once Preta path comes up and unlike Samehada when Preta path absorbs something it doesn't take damage.( )-( )-( ). Once Nukite and his ration armor is absorbed Nagato proceeds to blow them to bits. The 3rd Raikage might survive but Mu who is on his back is getting killed by this.( )-( ). Goodbye Muu.

Countered this in my first post. If Nagato enters close combat with the Raikage to absorb his raiton cloak, he gets by Raikage's fist.

Actually a CST kills Mu maybe not the third and that's once again spectacle. Once a CST hits them they'll go flying at insane speeds Mu who's on the 3rd Raikage is crushed once he hit the ground seeing as a CST sent boss summonings flying out of a village.( )-( ). now if humanoid figures are hit they'll fly even farther and hit the ground even harder. Mizukage water body is bombarded and vaporized via Missiles.( ). also not his water body consist of oil which will make the missiles more explosive. Even if he did lose Deva path abilities Mu still could do anything once Mu tries to take his head off via Kunai Ashura metal body parts tanks it.( ). then he gets raped up and get his soul removed.

No, already countered this. Mu is on 3rd Raikage's back just like Ay and Onoki do with their backpack combo so when Nagato uses ST or CST the Raikage's body takes the brunt of the attack and Muu takes no damage. The 2nd Mizukage can also summon his clam at the beginning of the battle and him and the 4th Kazekage can hide behind it so when Nagato uses CST the clam takes the damage for them, and Mizukage has his water body on top of that. Nagato can't use missiles to kill Muu because he won't know where Muu is when he goes invisible.

BT and Preta renders the nukite Combo useless. Once again useless he'll have his Ahura body complimented by Preta path so trying to stab will be useless. Not going to happen L0l @ Nukite ripping apart CT not happening. Chibaku Tensei build up is far to quick.( )-( ). as we see how little the Rasenshuriken and Bijuudama are the 3rd Raikage is cutting through that. Do you even hear yourself? If my tries to weigh down CT he gets smashed by incoming debris.

Rofl at rocks smashing the 3rd Raikage when he tanked a Rasenshuriken. Those scans you used to prove CT has a fast buildup...you do realize you skipped like half a chapter in between those two scans? When Raikage reaches the "planet" created by CT, he tunnels through the rocks with Nukite then reaches the core, which he destroys. Preta absorbing Nukite doesn't mean much when Raikage can just punch him.
 

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he tunnels through the rocks with Nukite then reaches the core, which he destroys. Preta absorbing Nukite doesn't mean much when Raikage can just punch him.

If he's completely bound between rocks, he'll need to generate enough force to be able to move his arm and break out to begin tunneling through with Nukite....and he can't do that.
 

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If he's completely bound between rocks, he'll need to generate enough force to be able to move his arm and break out to begin tunneling through with Nukite....and he can't do that.

That's why I said he can junp from rock to rock to reach the core early, or Muu can lighten him to fly up to the core before it fulls forms which will be only covered with a few layers of rock. He tears through them like he did to the rock/rubber wall.
 

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Countered this in my first post. If Nagato enters close combat with the Raikage to absorb his raiton cloak, he gets by Raikage's fist.
Once against wrong. He had raiton armor on which increases their speed strength durability etc. Not to mention he tries to punch Nagato multiple hands can grab his and the metal wires/strings raps him up like this.( ). Also Raikage isn't smashed steel/metal with his bare none ration covered hands.



No, already countered this. Mu is on 3rd Raikage's back just like Ay and Onoki do with their backpack combo so when Nagato uses ST or CST the Raikage's body takes the brunt of the attack and Muu takes no damage. The 2nd Mizukage can also summon his clam at the beginning of the battle and him and the 4th Kazekage can hide behind it so when Nagato uses CST the clam takes the damage for them, and Mizukage has his water body on top of that. Nagato can't use missiles to kill Muu because he won't know where Muu is when he goes invisible.
@Bold. You realize the Raikage being in his way means nothing when they'll both get sent flying miles. Just like the boss toads who were much heavier than the to humans. Once they hit the ground a such speed and force Mu bones gets shattered like glass. 3rd Raikage isn't getting up after that either. The clam and them both goes flying plus the clam durability isn't enough to tank a CST seeing as it was destroyed by this.( ). Missiles isn't need to stop Mu if Nagato wishes he could simply use a full scale Shira Tensei and they all die a horrible death.



Rofl at rocks smashing the 3rd Raikage when he tanked a Rasenshuriken. Those scans you used to prove CT has a fast buildup...you do realize you skipped like half a chapter in between those two scans? When Raikage reaches the "planet" created by CT, he tunnels through the rocks with Nukite then reaches the core, which he destroys. Preta absorbing Nukite doesn't mean much when Raikage can just punch him.
So the 3rd Raikage can survive the pressure of thousands of tons of rocks smashing on him? I quit. They had a brief talk and you realize that all happened in mere seconds. Also the CT was already big enough that it made a FRS and a Bijuudama look small. He isn't tunneling through anything the gravitational pull that CT has can split and rib entire plains apart yet he going to be fight through that? Sure... Any movement will be restricted as hell be held just like this.( ). waiting to get smashed by rocks just like this.( ). Jinton isn't happening not when he has to be completely still and rocks will be constantly flying at him and past him also with the gravitational pull pulling against him he won't have time to even concentrate and Jinton and confirmed by Oonoki and proven by Naruto an once of movement throws Jinton off therefore Jinton isn't happening.
 
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Nagato gets his ass kicked to amegakure
 
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