Nagato can defeat EMS Madara, Nagato can defeat Hashirama.
Now lets assume that Nagato will fight Madara, who has the EMS and obtained Hashiramas cells (mokuton + powerboost due to his cells). He has no Rinnegan.
Who will take this?
Nagato full health and full mobility and all of his techniques.
EMS and Mokuton are all use absorbent powers. The only exception is Perfect, stabilised, Susanoo's slash. However that can be dealt with by Shinra Tensei - one strong enough to null the slash and get Madara - which can be followed by any attack of Nagato's choice.
Unless Madara decides to try his chances with just slashes and slashes, he'll have to enter close combat. That's where he'll lose.
I didn't even mention Gedo Mazo.
Madara was above Nagato as he had Nagato's power (Rinnegan) plus more. That main pro - Rinnegan - is not with him ITT.
Now I'll have to vote for Madara because with Hashi's cells he should have more chakra than Nagato. Spamming OP Uchiha techniques and mokuton is a bit too much for even Nagato in my opinion.
how am i a fanboy? just because i dont agree with you? madara wins as none of nagatos techs can get through perfect susano.
deva path-shinra tensei is tanked by perfect susano. perfect susano is too big for bansho tenin. chibaku tensei is sliced in half.
asura path- missles and lasers are tanked by perfect susano.
preta path- susano would step on and crush nagato is nagato was ever dumb enough to walk up to perfect susano and try to absorb it. it could also just kill nagato with its sword if need be as nagato is stationary when using preta path.
naraka path- useless
human path- nagato wont be able to touch madara past perfect susano
animal path- susano isnt needed for these. madaras large scale katons take them out.
If it just EMS madara, nagato would crush him but with mokuton + EMS I still say nagato would win but with mid or high difficulty.
@Joki From what we know, hashirama can't defeat nagato and neither can EMS madara U_U
If it just EMS madara, nagato would crush him but with mokuton + EMS I still say nagato would win but with mid or high difficulty.
@Joki From what we know, hashirama can't defeat nagato and neither can EMS madara U_U
Perfect Susano'o completely and utterly crushes Nagato. Madara is just screwing with the kages, he proved that he could have killed them at any time when he used Perfect Susano'o and that was ONLY the EMS's power.
And "from what we know", Hashirama was walking all over Perfect Susano'o and Kurama simultaneously. Hashirama solos Nagato with both legs severed and hands tied behind his back, no joke here.
how am i a fanboy? just because i dont agree with you? madara wins as none of nagatos techs can get through perfect susano.
deva path-shinra tensei is tanked by perfect susano. perfect susano is too big for bansho tenin. chibaku tensei is sliced in half.
asura path- missles and lasers are tanked by perfect susano.
preta path- susano would step on and crush nagato is nagato was ever dumb enough to walk up to perfect susano and try to absorb it. it could also just kill nagato with its sword if need be as nagato is stationary when using preta path.
naraka path- useless
human path- nagato wont be able to touch madara past perfect susano
animal path- susano isnt needed for these. madaras large scale katons take them out.
You act as if Nagato will be taking turns using each tech individually, LOL. Its not like "Asura Path Missiles! Oh, those didn't work? Let me try my next move instead!"
Nagato absorbs Madara's Susanoo while absorbing any Ninjutsu Madara throws at him (Mokuton involved), and uses Asura Path or Shinra Tensei to deflect any Susanoo attacks, while his summons are screwing with Madara in the air.
And I love how you assume Chibaku Tensei gets taken out like its nothing, especially while Nagato is kicking Madara's ass at the same time. And you're a fanboy due to many claims you make, not just this one.
You act as if Nagato will be taking turns using each tech individually, LOL. Its not like "Asura Path Missiles! Oh, those didn't work? Let me try my next move instead!"
Nagato absorbs Madara's Susanoo while absorbing any Ninjutsu Madara throws at him (Mokuton involved), and uses Asura Path or Shinra Tensei to deflect any Susanoo attacks, while his summons are screwing with Madara in the air.
And I love how you assume Chibaku Tensei gets taken out like its nothing, especially while Nagato is kicking Madara's ass at the same time.
Yeah, and you make it act like Madara will stand still and sit on his ass and wait for him to do that -- 30 Mokuton Clones with Susano'o all gang up on Nagato, and while he's busy fending them off doing all that stuff you said, they put him in an illusion and take him out, GG.
It's like 50 Kage Level ninja vs 1, and the debris from multiple mountain busting crush from the sword will rip Nagato apart, it's not a matter of absorbing the Susano'o, you can't absorb regular boulders resulting from a mountain buster. Especially when you're facing off against 50 Susano'o and Madara's alone.
Perfect Susano'o completely and utterly crushes Nagato. Madara is just screwing with the kages, he proved that he could have killed them at any time when he used Perfect Susano'o and that was ONLY the EMS's power.
And "from what we know", Hashirama was walking all over Perfect Susano'o and Kurama simultaneously. Hashirama solos Nagato with both legs severed and hands tied behind his back, no joke here.
Now you are underrating nagato, chibaku tensei can take care of PS.
And hashirama took kurama away from madara's control in their fight because of mokuton, nagato has shown more than enough that can defeat both madara and hashirama 1 on 1 that is. Chibaku tensei, shinra tensei, preta path, he has a lot of chakra etc.
You act as if Nagato will be taking turns using each tech individually, LOL. Its not like "Asura Path Missiles! Oh, those didn't work? Let me try my next move instead!"
Nagato absorbs Madara's Susanoo while absorbing any Ninjutsu Madara throws at him (Mokuton involved), and uses Asura Path or Shinra Tensei to deflect any Susanoo attacks, while his summons are screwing with Madara in the air.
And I love how you assume Chibaku Tensei gets taken out like its nothing, especially while Nagato is kicking Madara's ass at the same time. And you're a fanboy due to many claims you make, not just this one.
oh i see. so nagato is deflecting this with shinra tensei:
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even though six tailed naruto deflected shinra tensei, nagato would easily push away a multi-mountain busting attack.
for the retarded preta path argument, nagato is stationary while using preta path. nagato has nothing that could hold susano in place while he absorbs it. nothing. madaras susano jumps back and slices nagato in half with its sword.
madara wouldnt even need to pay attention to asura paths missles. they arent strong enough to do any damage. summons get taken out by katons while madara makes his susano kill nagato. none of nagatos attacks are damaging madaras susano.
chibaku tensei is sliced in half. madaras susano is bigger than chibaku tensei so i dont see how that tech would even work.
Now you are underrating nagato, chibaku tensei can take care of PS.
And hashirama took kurama away from madara's control in their fight because of mokuton, nagato has shown more than enough that can defeat both madara and hashirama 1 on 1 that is. Chibaku tensei, shinra tensei, preta path, he has a lot of chakra etc.
Lol wut? Chibaku Tensei's completed form isn't even as big as PS lol.
I'm actually far from underrating Nagato, maybe your views are perverted since you're posting on NB, because I've noticed it's actually the exact opposite and Nagato is very very heavily overrated.
Nothing Nagato has will stop a giant sword from continually dropping mountain busters on him and taking on 25 Madara at once, seriously man. Hashirama still dealt with PS, so...yeah.
Nagato's vulnerablity is genjutsu, so EMS Madara is a bad matchup for him Mokuton or no Mokuton. Nagato vs. Hashirama I think could go either way, but again Hashirama could take it with Bringer of Darkness. Chibaku Tensei seems to have a limit to the amount of matter it can absorb, determining its eventual size - I think Hashirama could basically clog the CT with speed and scale of Mokuton.
