[VS] Nagato vs Kakashi and edo Itachi
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Kakashi doesn't bring the utility that Kcm Naruto and Bee do.
Shinra Tensei interrupts Kamui as well as clearing the field. Itachi exploited the blind spots in Nagato's shared vision, but he can still use it through the chameleon as long as he keeps it invisible.
Nagato uses CT when Itachi's Armored Susano'o comes out, then this team dies. Kakashi using Kamui on the core isn't even a possibility with all the debris flying in his line of sight and the core will have become to big to Kamui by that point anyway.
Shinra Tensei interrupts Kamui as well as clearing the field. Itachi exploited the blind spots in Nagato's shared vision, but he can still use it through the chameleon as long as he keeps it invisible.
Nagato uses CT when Itachi's Armored Susano'o comes out, then this team dies. Kakashi using Kamui on the core isn't even a possibility with all the debris flying in his line of sight and the core will have become to big to Kamui by that point anyway.
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How does Shinra tensei stop kamui? Gravity has no affect on Kamui since Obito used kamui perfectly fine in the gravity dimension.
Chibaku tensei is sniped the moment it appears in Nagato's hand. There is a big opening that Kakashi can easily take advantage of[
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Stops Kakashi from using it and Kamui can still be stopped even after it's activated if the user is hit in a way that their line of sight changes.
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If Kakashi does something like that, however unlikely, Nagato learns from this and fires missles from Asura path to block line of sight while he sets up the core.
Nagato was already shown using Asura path and forming CT simultaneously.
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Booker yes.
CT is a non-factor, with Itachi's intel it gets warped the instant it's used.
ST isn't interuppting Kamui here, I have no idea why people believe this.
Itachi is more than capable of stalling/distracting Nagato with Susano'o, especially with Totsuka and Yata. Hitting Nagato with Tsuk is game over, as that means instant warp by Kakashi.
Summons get trashed by Amaterasu.
Preta Path isn't absorbing Totsuka or Kamui.
I forgot the Path's name, but King of Hell is useless here. It's not catching Itachi and if it catches Kakashi, he just warps it.
Nagato is not winning here. Maybe if Itachi wasn't Edo Tensei.
Bold is false, Itachi's chakra creates the Totska clearly, an ethereal blade that needs chakra to take shape.
Nagato can be as close to Itachi as he'd like when he's in Susano'o as Preta basically makes it trash, and the Susano'o itself can cut off Kakashi's Kamui angle although ST continuously renders Kakashi unable to Kamui, as does summon spam.
Itachi bringing Kakashi into Susano'o is the only viable strategy here and idk if he could move along with it or if he could Kamui through it but CST shits.
Lmao what crap.
No, Preta isn't doing jack to Totsuka. It is a spiritual weapon, it is not Ninjutsu and it is not composed of Itachi's chakra. Unless you think Orochimaru was sealed inside Itachi. If Nagato gets close to Itachi, you're right. Preta would eat of Susano'o. But not nearly quick enough, and should Nagato do that, he either gets Tsuk'd or cut up by Totsuka. Yata Mirror would also be a defense against Preta.
No idea what bold means. Susano'o is transparent. If Nagato focuses on taking out Susano'o he gets sniped.
ST isn't doing jack to counter Kamui, no idea where this fiction started but it's nonsense. ST isn't blocking Kamui and BT isn't stopping Kakashi from sniping him in motion.
Summons are worthless, Itachi literally one-shots them with a glance.
CT is also worthless here, Itachi has intel on it and that means it gets insta-warped by Kakashi.
There is no reason or basis to assume that Nagato is avoiding Tsuk, and once he's hit with Tsuk, he is either Totsuka'd or Kamui'd. Whether he can break out of it or not is irrelevant as that takes time.
Itachi performed rather well against Nagato and displayed significantly more skill as he countered Nagato's greatest defense through mere shuriken while he blitzed him without registering anything at all. As a result, Kabuto was forced to use Chibaku Tensei and dejectedly admitted defeat as Chibaku Tensei was the only avenue to Nagato's victory. Because of that, the battle heavily depends on whether or not Nagato successfully uses Chibaku Tensei considering Itachi has Kakashi's assistance as well.
Oh god. I'm not having this argument again please look up past threads to gain intelligence.
-Totska is an ethereal blade that is stored within Itachi's chakra hence why it manifests when he uses Susano'o with the same chakra that forms said Susano'o. Without chakra its ethereal which means it has no shape or form... If you think it's a real blade please inform me where he keeps it when not in use :lol I shall wait. Yata is the same you're spouting delusion if you continue to counter this claim, as for your Oro point he's sealed within the Totska blade which is kept within Itachi's chakra yes.
-Never said ST counters Kamui I said ST'ng Kakashi would counter it, especially if using one of this caliber
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he can't snipe when he's getting blown away, don't know the location but Kakashi isn't using that as an ambush as well if Nagato sets up summons to watch over the battlefield. -Itachi can't one shot them when he's getting ****ed by Nagato if he's not hitting 8 summons without Nagato intervening don't see what stops Itachi from getting blitzed by BT here especially if he goes Susano'o
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Kamui could win it for team 2 but saying they trash is ignorance.
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The same way as in canon? lol. in character(well kabuto controlling) nagato will use summonings as a distraction then flank either kakashi or itachi with universal pull or ST but thanks to itachi's susanoo, he'll keep or grab kakashi into his avatar to protect them both, then follow up with amaterasu to take out the summoning. if nagato somehow manages to close in on susanoo to absorb it, itachi will let him absorb the avatar then jump out of susanoo to shunshin blitz nagato OR he'll let kakashi or shadow clone to escape from behind to quickly flank nagato but I don't know if kakashi is fast enough like itachi to counter nagato before he reacts to his sensory. cause if he's not, he'll end up like killer Bee with asura path. invisible salamander could be an issue, he'll likely snag itachi if the animal has no chakra. but either way, if he's stationary by being pre occupied by absorbing susanoo or with the salamander, kakashi will use kamui to take him out. even if nagato senses, he'll be forced to be on the defensive since he's by himself against a S/T and susanoo user.
out of character nagato would just CT asap,Like booker said. itachi (in or out of character) would just tell kakashi to kamui the core.
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Totsuka being an ethereal blade and having no shape or form literally means that it is able to bend and take other shapes. Hence why it is always "dripping" and able to be extended at will. No, it is not composed of chakra. It (along with Yata mirror) are weapons bind to Itachi's Susano'o. Orochimaru specifically states that he was even searching for their physical location. They are not entirely composed of chakra, this is nonsense.
Also lmao at you stating that Orochimaru is sealed within Itachi's chakra. False, he is sealed inside Totsuka's Gourd, which has nothing to do with Itachi's chakra and does not mean Oro is now a part of Itachi.
ST is rendered useless against Kakashi with Itachi and Yata present.
Again, summons are useless. Itachi one-shots them the second they pop up.
Of course he is, why wouldn't he be able to? Amaterasu is nearly as fast as Kamui, it would take half a second. Hell, if he wanted, he could Ama Nagato buy time. But he won't need to. The summons aren't exactly puny.
Susano'o/Yata tank and then Deva is useless, making this even easier.
Still haven't addressed Tsuk, because you pretty much know getting hit by that means GG for Nagato. If Nagato tries to BT Itachi, all he's doing is baiting himself for that scenario. If he BT's Kakashi he gets sniped en route.
There is no scenario here between Kakashi and Itachi where Nagato isn't vulnerable to either a Kamui snipe, Tsuk, or Totsuka seal.