Nagato vs Itachi

[siyo]

This is actually a pretty good thread for whom not to argue with in the future.

 

[khaydz5]

Have you ever seen Nagato absorbing Amaterasu? Why didn't he absorb Amaterasu? It's just the same thing. Itachi can catch Nagato in an illusion without eye contact. Also Itachi can catch Nagatos summon in a Genjutsu. Nagato, who will look through his summon with his own closed eyes, will see the illusion Itachi cast on the summon. It's an option.

And yes, he put another person under a Genjutsushiled. but how can he use a shield on himself? In fact Jiraiya caught three Pains in an illusion, also Itachi could do it.

Besides, the Rinnegan (Tendo) isn't stronger in Taijutsu than the Byakugan, since the Shinra Tensei isn't a Taijutsumove.

itachi ALWAYS use genjutsu when he fights. and he fights in free will during that time. not unlike nagato that was being controlled.so basically nagato doesn't have a choice on what to do.

lol we saw how itachi took on nagato's summon...it was through amaterasu not genjutsu. your logic fails when manga already show you how pain was affected by sound genjutsu..
here is what happened there, jiraiya caught 3 paths in genjutsu, nagato hears the sound but only the 3 where affected not all 7 of them.that it why in the genjutsu world only 3 paths are shown. so same can be said for visual genjutsu, nagato may see the genjutsu through his other paths but he will not get affected only the one itachi casted upon.

this has been said also over and over again..and I need to explain everything to newbie fanboys once in awhile..

dude hope you realize genjutsu shield is nagato's technique. ofcourse he can use it to himself.and why you said he doesn't have it when he fight jiraiya? remember he never knew jiraiya could use genjutsu.. that is why nagato was caught off guard.

LOL, and are you serious? still debating on hinata vs tendo?? dude, give up. hinata didn't even scratch tendo with her "superior" taijutsu moves.don't bother debating on this pls. rinnegan>>>>>>>>>>byakugan in every aspect.nuff said.

 

[Memoria]

Nagato shall win this with mid/high difficulty IMO.

 

[sdam]

Nagato and Itachi are both extremely strong, and rank in top 10 on my list. I will say that minato and itachi and nagato are all equal i comes on how you look at it.

 

[Lankeysob]

Still the way I see it is the reason that Kishi pitted Naruto, Bee, and Itachi against Nagato was to show how powerful he was. So to me Nagato > Itachi.

 

[Sunagura]

nagato win

 

[Wolfang714]

let's talk Reasonably ! Nagato has No immunity ! just NO immunity against Tsukuyomi or any others of itachi's Genjutsu in general ! against Itachi ; Only few may have A chance IF itachi didn't use Tsukuyomi ; but Only One can break the Tsukuyomi : sasuke
Nagato is One of those few : Nagato can Win Only If itachi Didn't use Genjutsus including Tsukuyomi or susanoo ; wich is hard to believe ; Itachi is a genjutsu Specialist ! and a sealing master with totsuka no tsurugi! (it was prooven in their edo battle there was nothing Nagato could do !! ) (Rinnegan don't give immunity against Visual Genjutsu)

lol what a bunch of bullcrap; we dont know if rinnegan has any immunities against visual genjutsu, dont hype itachi... U_U

 

[KazekageDaichi]

Itachi is better than Nagato...don't compare them.

 

[Lilt]

When Itachi fought Nagato, the result was Nagato regenerating the entire time while struggling to execute his techniques. Itachi removed both of Nagato's arms before sealing him (while saving his friends) and wasn't so much as scratched. It is funny seeing smug Nagato fans after that fiasco.

 

[PainIsGod]

When Itachi fought Nagato, the result was Nagato regenerating the entire time while struggling to execute his techniques. Itachi removed both of Nagato's arms before sealing him (while saving his friends) and wasn't so much as scratched. It is funny seeing smug Nagato fans after that fiasco.

Cause kabuto wasn't paying attention to itachi its even stated he was suprised when he got amaterasu. don't hype itachi. if nagato had control of himself and was facing only itachi itachi wouldn't win anyone with a brain knows that were not smug we actually provide facts unlike you brainless itachi fans

 

[PainIsGod]

Itachi is better than Nagato...don't compare them.

^^ Response of a brainless itachi fan who cant see passed his love for itachi's ****

 

[Lilt]

Cause kabuto wasn't paying attention to itachi its even stated he was suprised when he got amaterasu. don't hype itachi. if nagato had control of himself and was facing only itachi itachi wouldn't win anyone with a brain knows that were not smug we actually provide facts unlike you brainless itachi fans

I do not nitpick details with impolite individuals. Suffice it to say that I maintain my opinion that the superior combatant is the individual that isn't overwhelmingly arrogant with a god complex, that didn't lose both of his arms while fighting, that wasn't paneled by the Totsuka blade, that didn't apologize after being impaled, that didn't continue onward to fight more important villains, etc, etc...

 

[narutownsyouall]

Nagato would win itachi has the Sword and shield which is not going to help him during CB and Nagato can use his summons to keep itachi busy and Almighty push when itachi isnt an edo will hurt him significantly unless itachi sees it coming but Nagato takes most of the cake on this fight

 

[Wolfang714]

Taijutsu: Nagato wins, Asura/Human/Deva paths
Genjutsu: Nagato wins/its a draw. Nagato has mental barricades
Ninjtutsu: Nagato wins. He absorbs with preta path, has chibaku tensei to set the field to his advantage and can even fly. not to mention the asura path again for long distance fights. He can keep his distance with asura path and animal path until itachi runs out of chakra for susanoo.

 

[Ryuu..]

Nagato is just a level above Itachi.

 

[Fearmonger]

You have good points but I have to point out two things:

Itachi is dead and as such the MS has nothing to drain so he can keep useing susanoo as many times as he wants.

Also Itachi has a long ranged attack for his susanoo called Yasaka Magatama,all susanoos are made for all ranges.

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[khaydz5]

I do not nitpick details with impolite individuals. Suffice it to say that I maintain my opinion that the superior combatant is the individual that isn't overwhelmingly arrogant with a god complex, that didn't lose both of his arms while fighting, that wasn't paneled by the Totsuka blade, that didn't apologize after being impaled, that didn't continue onward to fight more important villains, etc, etc...

lol you think itachi was oh so great because he saved naruto and bee and was able to damage an edo tensei. but what you failed to realize is he got plenty of time in the background carefully planning on how to save them and if you read manga carefully you'll see that edos or kabuto himself never really mind if his puppets are receiving damages because HE KNOWS they'll just regenate and no need for an effort to dodge.

so those damages is irrelevant, if nagato's in control and he knows he wont be able to regenerate of course he will avoid getting damaged.. well even if in case he got a fatal wound he would be able to repair himself via hell realm.

 

[Eternal Sage]

Nagato Medium-Hard difficulty, he could hold off kcm naruto and bee, almost killing them

 

[Lilt]

lol you think itachi was oh so great because he saved naruto and bee and was able to damage an edo tensei. but what you failed to realize is he got plenty of time in the background carefully planning on how to save them and if you read manga carefully you'll see that edos or kabuto himself never really mind if his puppets are receiving damages because HE KNOWS they'll just regenate and no need for an effort to dodge. so those damages is irrelevant, if nagato's in control and he knows he wont be able to regenerate of course he will avoid getting damaged.. well even if in case he got a fatal wound he would be able to repair himself via hell realm.

That is true. But we have no other basis to scale them by. My thoughts:

Ninjutsu

Nagato lacks the reflexes to reflect the Totsuka. Itachi countering Chibaku Tensei is unknown.

Genjutsu

Itachi has very hyped genjutsu and didn't even use it. Nagato countering Tsukuyomi is unknown.

Taijutsu

Itachi is far more skilled with weapons, etc. (taking out multiple summons) than Nagato.

Speed

Itachi is one of the fastest and most evasive characters. Nagato is one of the most immobile.

Intelligence

Itachi is smarter. He figured out all of Nagato's techniques nearly instantly.

Conclusion

Itachi would invariably trick Nagato with clones, speed, genjutsu, etc. and finish with the Mangekyō.

 

[TheSages456]

nagato raped both naruto and bee at the same time. if you say itachi>nagato your also saying itachi>kcm naruto and bee which is at best laughable.