Nagato vs Itachi

Nagato Vs Itachi

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Here we go again...I'm just going to paste an argument that I have been previously posting and saved it incase for future 'Nagato vs Itachi' threads. Itachi would loose Nagato. All of Itachi's main attacks can be countered-

1. Amaterasu - Manga has shown that Nagato can sense it and can be countered by Shinra Tensei.

2. Ninjutsu attacks- Can be absored by Preta Path. This includes Susano's Yasaka Magatama.

3. Complete/incomplete Susano- Susano is created from pure chakra of the user, therefore Preta Path comes in handy again. Another way to combat Susanoo would be Chibaku Tensei or Celestial Sphere, same thing. This would make Susanoo majestically float in the air leaving Itachi vulnerable from being pulled out by Bansho Tenin. Bear in mind that Susanoo takes up a lot of chakra and the users life as well, especially since Itachi is still on MS. Nagato either way can also summon Gedo Mazo.

4. Yata Mirror and Sword of Totsuka- Yes they are legendary items but they can still be manipulated by gravity. Who isnt to say that Bansho Tenin can pull out the sword from the hand of Susanoo or knock it off by large scale Shinra Tensei? If you are going to say "Itachi 1 shotted Nagato" then could you please refresh my memory of the events that lead to that please? ;)

Complete Susanoo with yata mirror & totsuka sword vs Gedo Mazo? Gedo Mazo is double the size of susanoo from the looks of it so it has incredible strength as seen from the manga, Gedo Mazo's attack is the soul sucking dragons, which isnt chakra its a some sort of immaterial form therefore IMO Yata Mirror cant block it as it only blocks the five chakra elements. Totsuka sword stabbing Gedo Mazo to seal it? sure if it can land a stab on it. Even if it does stab, we dont know for sure if it can seal Gedo Mazo as its a summon statue. Yes I know its meant to "seal anything" it stabs but you cant take it literally. The sword of Kusanagi was meant to cut and pierce through anything as well.

5. Tsukuyomi- IMO this is the only main problem that Nagato would face as we're not sure whether Rinnegan has the advantage of resisting getting caught in a genjutsu. The genjutsu that Paths of Pain got caught at the same time was a sound genjutsu, Itachi has visual genjutsu. Itachi is intelligent but Nagato aint stupid either so I doubt he'd look Itachi in the eyes directly.

So there you go, almost all of Itachi's attacks can be countered but I dont think Itachi has any counters to most of Nagato's attack apart from staying inside his complete Susanoo, which is only good as his stamina in order to last. Important thing- Nagato can use all of the Rinnegan abilities simultaneously.
 

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nagato with a chibaku tensei
 

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Here we go again...I'm just going to paste an argument that I have been previously posting and saved it incase for future 'Nagato vs Itachi' threads. Itachi would loose Nagato. All of Itachi's main attacks can be countered-

1. Amaterasu - Manga has shown that Nagato can sense it and can be countered by Shinra Tensei.

2. Ninjutsu attacks- Can be absored by Preta Path. This includes Susano's Yasaka Magatama.

3. Complete/incomplete Susano- Susano is created from pure chakra of the user, therefore Preta Path comes in handy again. Another way to combat Susanoo would be Chibaku Tensei or Celestial Sphere, same thing. This would make Susanoo majestically float in the air leaving Itachi vulnerable from being pulled out by Bansho Tenin. Bear in mind that Susanoo takes up a lot of chakra and the users life as well, especially since Itachi is still on MS. Nagato either way can also summon Gedo Mazo.

4. Yata Mirror and Sword of Totsuka- Yes they are legendary items but they can still be manipulated by gravity. Who isnt to say that Bansho Tenin can pull out the sword from the hand of Susanoo or knock it off by large scale Shinra Tensei? If you are going to say "Itachi 1 shotted Nagato" then could you please refresh my memory of the events that lead to that please? ;)

Complete Susanoo with yata mirror & totsuka sword vs Gedo Mazo? Gedo Mazo is double the size of susanoo from the looks of it so it has incredible strength as seen from the manga, Gedo Mazo's attack is the soul sucking dragons, which isnt chakra its a some sort of immaterial form therefore IMO Yata Mirror cant block it as it only blocks the five chakra elements. Totsuka sword stabbing Gedo Mazo to seal it? sure if it can land a stab on it. Even if it does stab, we dont know for sure if it can seal Gedo Mazo as its a summon statue. Yes I know its meant to "seal anything" it stabs but you cant take it literally. The sword of Kusanagi was meant to cut and pierce through anything as well.

5. Tsukuyomi- IMO this is the only main problem that Nagato would face as we're not sure whether Rinnegan has the advantage of resisting getting caught in a genjutsu. The genjutsu that Paths of Pain got caught at the same time was a sound genjutsu, Itachi has visual genjutsu. Itachi is intelligent but Nagato aint stupid either so I doubt he'd look Itachi in the eyes directly.

So there you go, almost all of Itachi's attacks can be countered but I dont think Itachi has any counters to most of Nagato's attack apart from staying inside his complete Susanoo, which is only good as his stamina in order to last. Important thing- Nagato can use all of the Rinnegan abilities simultaneously.
And lets not forget about Chibaku Tensei
There is no way for Itachi to survive Planetary devastation
-Totuga blade wouldn't seal a jutsu, from all we've seen it will only seal souls once it has impaled something. When it was cutting up Oro's serpent heads it didn't seal them nor any of the rocks it hit. The only times it did seal something was an opponent's soul after being impaled.
-Susanoo doesn't move, Itachi would have been sucked up into the attack
-I doubt Yasaka Magatama is as strong as a Tail Beast Bomb, even that couldn't even destroy PD during the Pain fight. If YM was as strong as a TBB, he wouldn't have enough chakra to do multiple.
-Itachi wouldn't have enough time or chakra to attempt multiple, even so, there is no guarantee PD would be destroyed, unless you make very generous assumptions.
-Even if Susanoo went up with him, the debris could crush him from under Susanoo, and even if it didn't, a shield won't protect you from being crushed by a gravitational weight.
-Even if Itachi survives PD, he'll not only be exhausted physically, he will also have to survive the fall while at the same time not be crushed by any huge falling debris. Keep in mind Nagato will still be there ready to fight
 

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Yeah you saw a 3 on 1 fight. And your stupid logic proves nothing if Nagato was an idiot like he wouldnt be a leader and considered invincible by tobi and zetsu

naruto and bee stood back while itachi was the only one charging and fighting nagato, plus nagato took no damage from naruto nor bee. itachi beat him 1 0n 1 with no effort. plus nagato is an idiot tobi controlled him and made nagato to what he is(rinnagan user) to suit tobi's plan's just another pawn under tobi. plus naruto beat him as well so know your facts idiot before you debate me over stupid fanboy theory's.:flaw:
 

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naruto and bee stood back while itachi was the only one charging and fighting nagato, plus nagato took no damage from naruto nor bee. itachi beat him 1 0n 1 with no effort. plus nagato is an idiot tobi controlled him and made nagato to what he is(rinnagan user) to suit tobi's plan's just another pawn under tobi. plus naruto beat him as well so know your facts idiot before you debate me over stupid fanboy theory's.:flaw:

Your right i like Nagato but that has nothing to do with this. and by the way nagato is alot better rinnegan user than tobi. and they didnt go 1 on 1 if itachi didnt have bee and naruto. if it was only itachi he wouldnt of been able to destroy CT by himself therefore would of most likely died and tobi did not control him he just went along with the plans tobi had to suit his own needs as well. naruto beat a weaknd pain who wasnt at full power and not much chakra and took the 8 tails naruto just to do it naruto would be dead if pain didnt need him alive. and im not such a fanboy that im blinded by my love for nagato that i dont know fact from opinion and ur's is a false opinion
 

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Here we go again...I'm just going to paste an argument that I have been previously posting and saved it incase for future 'Nagato vs Itachi' threads. Itachi would loose Nagato. All of Itachi's main attacks can be countered-

1. Amaterasu - Manga has shown that Nagato can sense it and can be countered by Shinra Tensei.

2. Ninjutsu attacks- Can be absored by Preta Path. This includes Susano's Yasaka Magatama.

3. Complete/incomplete Susano- Susano is created from pure chakra of the user, therefore Preta Path comes in handy again. Another way to combat Susanoo would be Chibaku Tensei or Celestial Sphere, same thing. This would make Susanoo majestically float in the air leaving Itachi vulnerable from being pulled out by Bansho Tenin. Bear in mind that Susanoo takes up a lot of chakra and the users life as well, especially since Itachi is still on MS. Nagato either way can also summon Gedo Mazo.

4. Yata Mirror and Sword of Totsuka- Yes they are legendary items but they can still be manipulated by gravity. Who isnt to say that Bansho Tenin can pull out the sword from the hand of Susanoo or knock it off by large scale Shinra Tensei? If you are going to say "Itachi 1 shotted Nagato" then could you please refresh my memory of the events that lead to that please? ;)

Complete Susanoo with yata mirror & totsuka sword vs Gedo Mazo? Gedo Mazo is double the size of susanoo from the looks of it so it has incredible strength as seen from the manga, Gedo Mazo's attack is the soul sucking dragons, which isnt chakra its a some sort of immaterial form therefore IMO Yata Mirror cant block it as it only blocks the five chakra elements. Totsuka sword stabbing Gedo Mazo to seal it? sure if it can land a stab on it. Even if it does stab, we dont know for sure if it can seal Gedo Mazo as its a summon statue. Yes I know its meant to "seal anything" it stabs but you cant take it literally. The sword of Kusanagi was meant to cut and pierce through anything as well.

5. Tsukuyomi- IMO this is the only main problem that Nagato would face as we're not sure whether Rinnegan has the advantage of resisting getting caught in a genjutsu. The genjutsu that Paths of Pain got caught at the same time was a sound genjutsu, Itachi has visual genjutsu. Itachi is intelligent but Nagato aint stupid either so I doubt he'd look Itachi in the eyes directly.

So there you go, almost all of Itachi's attacks can be countered but I dont think Itachi has any counters to most of Nagato's attack apart from staying inside his complete Susanoo, which is only good as his stamina in order to last. Important thing- Nagato can use all of the Rinnegan abilities simultaneously.

this... +rep dawg
 

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naruto and bee stood back while itachi was the only one charging and fighting nagato, plus nagato took no damage from naruto nor bee. itachi beat him 1 0n 1 with no effort. plus nagato is an idiot tobi controlled him and made nagato to what he is(rinnagan user) to suit tobi's plan's just another pawn under tobi. plus naruto beat him as well so know your facts idiot before you debate me over stupid fanboy theory's.:flaw:

What does that make Itachi for being fooled into thinking Tobi was Madara?
 

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Nagato will always win this fight
 

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First of all, holy wall of text batman (seriously try to break that up a bit paragraphs manga pages something)

Secondly search bar this thread has been done to death.

I know right xd this has been done too many times already
 

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Nagato>Itachi simple as that it woudlnt be "easy" but he could do it with moderate diff.
 

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I think i might need to shown light on this thread. Alot of people simply think it would be a walk in park due to nagato having the raw power edge. This fight isnt as simple as people think believe me
 

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LOL LOL LOL. ummm did any of u even read the Stop Nagato manga lol? Nagato was being called a worthless bastard who doesnt have the mobility "IN HIS PRIME" to fight itachi and that itachi is just too good. Ummm what? so wait ur saying that Nagato will Overcome Koto Amatsukami out of pure Awesomeness and he will also overcome Amaterasu "which evidently killed nagato in the manga but due to Edo tensei he was capable of reviving and shinra tensei the amaterasu away. how do i know he died? because they showed his flesh coming back to life like how when madara and the kage died and they came back due to edo tensei (when madara dropped a meteor)." Oh and Nagato will also overcome the totsuka sword! why? out of pure awesomeness of course! Even though it was stated that even with the paths vision ultimate and youthful nagato doesnt have the mobility to fight itachi THATS ALRIGHT! nagato will piss at the totsuka sword and it will back off! not to mention the way nagato will surpass the yata mirror! or how nagato will kill itachi with Chibaku tensei although itachi already exhibited the fact he can take down chibaku tensei lol. "oh he doesnt need naruto and bee to help him. See nagato cant fight while doing chibaku since he has to stand in place holding his hands together. Now itachi on the other hand can keep spamming yasaka magatama at chibaku tensei until it goes away. We all saw both madara AND sasuke spam their susanoo weaponry within seconds. so itachi can also do it. How many does he need? 3 of them? three attacks take out chibaku tensei? lol no biggie at all. But thats alright Nagato will somehow overcome Itachi by pure awesomeness. Oh and LOL LOL LOL at everyone who says Pein > Itachi. or everyone who states "yeah itachi can beat nagato but he cant beat pein" when it was already stated that Nagato himself using his abilities is on an entirely different level, much faster, and much stronger than pein. I think the power difference was evident wasnt it? pein lost to sage naruto when nagato almost killed Kyuubi chakra mode naruto AND bee at the same time? until itachi stepped in of course and raped nagato. But thats ok :) U fanboys never give up lol.
 

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nagato would take this one no doubt he is stronger and as more powerful techniques.
 

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LOL LOL LOL. ummm did any of u even read the Stop Nagato manga lol? Nagato was being called a worthless bastard who doesnt have the mobility "IN HIS PRIME" to fight itachi and that itachi is just too good. Ummm what? so wait ur saying that Nagato will Overcome Koto Amatsukami out of pure Awesomeness and he will also overcome Amaterasu "which evidently killed nagato in the manga but due to Edo tensei he was capable of reviving and shinra tensei the amaterasu away. how do i know he died? because they showed his flesh coming back to life like how when madara and the kage died and they came back due to edo tensei (when madara dropped a meteor)." Oh and Nagato will also overcome the totsuka sword! why? out of pure awesomeness of course! Even though it was stated that even with the paths vision ultimate and youthful nagato doesnt have the mobility to fight itachi THATS ALRIGHT! nagato will piss at the totsuka sword and it will back off! not to mention the way nagato will surpass the yata mirror! or how nagato will kill itachi with Chibaku tensei although itachi already exhibited the fact he can take down chibaku tensei lol. "oh he doesnt need naruto and bee to help him. See nagato cant fight while doing chibaku since he has to stand in place holding his hands together. Now itachi on the other hand can keep spamming yasaka magatama at chibaku tensei until it goes away. We all saw both madara AND sasuke spam their susanoo weaponry within seconds. so itachi can also do it. How many does he need? 3 of them? three attacks take out chibaku tensei? lol no biggie at all. But thats alright Nagato will somehow overcome Itachi by pure awesomeness. Oh and LOL LOL LOL at everyone who says Pein > Itachi. or everyone who states "yeah itachi can beat nagato but he cant beat pein" when it was already stated that Nagato himself using his abilities is on an entirely different level, much faster, and much stronger than pein. I think the power difference was evident wasnt it? pein lost to sage naruto when nagato almost killed Kyuubi chakra mode naruto AND bee at the same time? until itachi stepped in of course and raped nagato. But thats ok :) U fanboys never give up lol.

go away troll :flaw: come back when you have facts to back yourself up
 

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Lol at some of you silly people even if you think pain would win low-mid difficulty? Lol just silly...but that's your opinion


Imo itachi would win (not easily), but yes pain has a lot of op techs but so does itachi and on top of that itachi has shown the brains to over come op techs....but all we get from pain is power not brains (if I'm wrong tell me), and imo that's not enough to beat someone with power and brains

Classic examples: naruto and Neji, Shikamaru and hidan, sasuke and dedara, hell tom and jerry lol you get the point.


So in more cases than not brains + power > power alone and that's fact


Also to all those (the op) saying that kabuto was controlling pain when he got beat (sealed) kabuto was also controlling him when he was beating up naruto and bee, 2 tail beast host...on top of that they are the 8 and 9 tails the most powerful of the beast....so kabuto did a great job controlling him, don't take away from kabuto its not his fault. The problem is itachi is just a force to be reckoned with and that's all. Pain was used flawlessly but itachi found all the holes in pain's techs end of story (which is y I think itachi would win)



Uchiha out

good points budd... but you're missing one important factor.

KABUTO IGNORES ITACHI THE WHOLE TIME.

so still its KABUTO's FAULT. any excuses?
 

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The only reason he broke out of edo is cause of the crow he put inside naruto with shuisui's eye. i agree itachi is strong no dout about it. and when he said the others he meant naruto and bee cause they were gettin there arses handed to them. And nagato only lacked mobility cause of his injured legs and he wasnt his healthy self at that time
Lol y would he mean bee and naruto then in the next panel talks about edo not being able to hold him.....lol no


LOL LOL LOL. ummm did any of u even read the Stop Nagato manga lol? Nagato was being called a worthless bastard who doesnt have the mobility "IN HIS PRIME" to fight itachi and that itachi is just too good. Ummm what? so wait ur saying that Nagato will Overcome Koto Amatsukami out of pure Awesomeness and he will also overcome Amaterasu "which evidently killed nagato in the manga but due to Edo tensei he was capable of reviving and shinra tensei the amaterasu away. how do i know he died? because they showed his flesh coming back to life like how when madara and the kage died and they came back due to edo tensei (when madara dropped a meteor)." Oh and Nagato will also overcome the totsuka sword! why? out of pure awesomeness of course! Even though it was stated that even with the paths vision ultimate and youthful nagato doesnt have the mobility to fight itachi THATS ALRIGHT! nagato will piss at the totsuka sword and it will back off! not to mention the way nagato will surpass the yata mirror! or how nagato will kill itachi with Chibaku tensei although itachi already exhibited the fact he can take down chibaku tensei lol. "oh he doesnt need naruto and bee to help him. See nagato cant fight while doing chibaku since he has to stand in place holding his hands together. Now itachi on the other hand can keep spamming yasaka magatama at chibaku tensei until it goes away. We all saw both madara AND sasuke spam their susanoo weaponry within seconds. so itachi can also do it. How many does he need? 3 of them? three attacks take out chibaku tensei? lol no biggie at all. But thats alright Nagato will somehow overcome Itachi by pure awesomeness. Oh and LOL LOL LOL at everyone who says Pein > Itachi. or everyone who states "yeah itachi can beat nagato but he cant beat pein" when it was already stated that Nagato himself using his abilities is on an entirely different level, much faster, and much stronger than pein. I think the power difference was evident wasnt it? pein lost to sage naruto when nagato almost killed Kyuubi chakra mode naruto AND bee at the same time? until itachi stepped in of course and raped nagato. But thats ok :) U fanboys never give up lol.
Nice +rep
nagato would take this one no doubt he is stronger and as more powerful techniques.
Is that not the same thing????
good points budd... but you're missing one important factor.

KABUTO IGNORES ITACHI THE WHOLE TIME.

so still its KABUTO's FAULT. any excuses?
How can you ignore someone when you have eyes all over the battlefield??? Itachi just overcame it get over it.....and before you reply saying he didn't, its fact in the manga

So no I have no excuses
 

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LOL LOL LOL. ummm did any of u even read the Stop Nagato manga lol? Nagato was being called a worthless bastard who doesnt have the mobility "IN HIS PRIME" to fight itachi and that itachi is just too good. Ummm what? so wait ur saying that Nagato will Overcome Koto Amatsukami out of pure Awesomeness and he will also overcome Amaterasu "which evidently killed nagato in the manga but due to Edo tensei he was capable of reviving and shinra tensei the amaterasu away. how do i know he died? because they showed his flesh coming back to life like how when madara and the kage died and they came back due to edo tensei (when madara dropped a meteor)." Oh and Nagato will also overcome the totsuka sword! why? out of pure awesomeness of course! Even though it was stated that even with the paths vision ultimate and youthful nagato doesnt have the mobility to fight itachi THATS ALRIGHT! nagato will piss at the totsuka sword and it will back off! not to mention the way nagato will surpass the yata mirror! or how nagato will kill itachi with Chibaku tensei although itachi already exhibited the fact he can take down chibaku tensei lol. "oh he doesnt need naruto and bee to help him. See nagato cant fight while doing chibaku since he has to stand in place holding his hands together. Now itachi on the other hand can keep spamming yasaka magatama at chibaku tensei until it goes away. We all saw both madara AND sasuke spam their susanoo weaponry within seconds. so itachi can also do it. How many does he need? 3 of them? three attacks take out chibaku tensei? lol no biggie at all. But thats alright Nagato will somehow overcome Itachi by pure awesomeness. Oh and LOL LOL LOL at everyone who says Pein > Itachi. or everyone who states "yeah itachi can beat nagato but he cant beat pein" when it was already stated that Nagato himself using his abilities is on an entirely different level, much faster, and much stronger than pein. I think the power difference was evident wasnt it? pein lost to sage naruto when nagato almost killed Kyuubi chakra mode naruto AND bee at the same time? until itachi stepped in of course and raped nagato. But thats ok :) U fanboys never give up lol.

lmao um you forget kabuto wasnt focusing on itachi he was focusing on bee and naruto he came out of know were to save them then used amaterasu on him when he wasnt paying attention and know nagato wasnt in his prime. everyones so called facts that itachi could beat nagato comes from that one chapter when it was 3 against 1 and he was being controlled and who are you calling a fan boy? look at your name and what ure saying. yes ima nagato fan but im not a fan to the point were i cant tell fact from opinion. if you obviously look when he says hes lacking mobility is because hes not his healthy self. where do you get that he raped him? he had naruto and bee help him. and yes he can overcome the yata mirror cause it only reacts to THE NATURE TRANSFORMATIONS gravity isnt a nature transformation therefore has no effect
 
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I think i might need to shown light on this thread. Alot of people simply think it would be a walk in park due to nagato having the raw power edge. This fight isnt as simple as people think believe me

I no that its anyones fight im just sayin why i think hed win but it could go either way
 

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Nagato + Chibaku Tensei (the favorite in every battle) = GAME OVER.

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