Nagato vs EMS Sasuke and Edo Itachi

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Then you won't have any trouble backing up this statement with links. I'm waiting...

Don't quote me.
I don't want cancer

 

[TRE MERCER]

Manda is dead. the only Sasuke that gets to have Manda is Hebi Sasuke. MS, EMS Sasuke and up are not in possession of Manda. when you can compare a character to summons which are part of a character's arsenal you can spill the bs you're talking.

and how is Aoda going to send CT away? by eating it along with the huge chunk of boulders? please stop with this retarded ass logic.

Totsuka argument ignored and when did i say Aoda was going to eat the CT? Smh stop...

 

[Izanamı.]

Totsuka argument ignored and when did i say Aoda was going to eat the CT? Smh stop...

Totsuka cutting CT? another argument you made which you can't prove. Itachi needs to come close to try it and the moment he does he gets trapped inside the boulders.

explain how is Aoda sending CT away. by wrapping around it? because it doesn't work that way, the reverse summoning contract only sends back the summoning not what the summoning touches around along with it.

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[Trúth]

As usual this idiot spouts BS and then runs away. Not that I would expect anything from Itachibase anyway :leaf:

Oh, the iorny below.

Don't quote me.
I don't want cancer

Then I suggest that you avoid reading your own posts.

 

[Tsukukami]

Anyone who thinks nagato wins this should log out

 

[Demonic.]

Uchiha Bros mid/high diff with intel imo

-CST is tanked with Susanoo considering Katsuyu managed to tank it

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-Chibaku Tensei doesn't start to pull in objects until it is a few hundred feet into the sky

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This gives Sasuke plenty of time to summon Aoda, jump in its mouth, and burrow away from the gravitational pull considering he managed to do something similar to avoid Deidara's C0 at point blank.

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C0 is much faster than CT, considering Itachi managed to think of a strategy, and coach Naruto and Bee into destroying the core while the jutsu was in progress.


Btw, I'll only be taking replies from KidGamer should he quote me :snick:

 

[Draphsin]

Nagato wins this mid-high diff, itachi isn't a factor.

Nagato summons his bird to fly in the air & launches his CBT to trap the brothers, no susanoo bar PS is destroying or breaking out of it.

 

[Tsukukami]

Nagato wins this mid-high diff, itachi isn't a factor.

Nagato summons his bird to fly in the air & launches his CBT to trap the brothers, no susanoo bar PS is destroying or breaking out of it.

Amaterasu GG bird
Susanoo arrow / Bead Spam GG CT

The orb doesn't have durability feats and Itachi is a quick strategy maker

 

[Draphsin]

Amaterasu GG bird

Then nagato jumps off & levitates like

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, if anything the bird still helps him reach the sky faster but it hardly prevents him from flying altogether.

Susanoo arrow / Bead Spam GG CT

Lol Until I see the scans of susanoo arrows & magatamas reaching the same level of DC as a bijuudama then the core isn't getting destroyed.

The orb doesn't have durability feats and Itachi is a quick strategy maker

We've only seen the core get destroyed by an attack that involved a tbb which far surpassed all the other attacks aimed at it. Itachi said that it would take their

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to destroy it. He knows that killerbee is a perfect jin since gyuki

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from genjutsu & bee

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to defend against his attacks, therefore itachi knew that bee could use a bijuudama so he clearly stated that nothing short of said attack would have a chance at destroying it.

Not to mention when the CBT got

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big [which only took a few pages] KN6 tbbs were fodder to it, meaning all nagato has to do is protect the core for a small amount of time, [assuming it can even be destroyed by such attacks in the first place] which can easily be done by intercepting their attacks via preta path or summons. Since the CBT will already be extremely high up in the air it gives nagato plenty of time to intercept their attacks.

 

[Tsukukami]

Then nagato jumps off & levitates like

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, if anything the bird still helps him reach the sky faster but it hardly prevents him from flying altogether.

still a target for amaterasu

Lol Until I see the scans of susanoo arrows & magatamas reaching the same level of DC as a bijuudama then the core isn't getting destroyed.

lel that was overkill for CT it destroyed the area, the level attack I mentioned should suffice. Besides the manifestation of the 8 tails of Naruto was enough to end the jutsu

We've only seen the core get destroyed by an attack that involved a tbb which far surpassed all the other attacks aimed at it. Itachi said that it would take their

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to destroy it. He knows that killerbee is a perfect jin since gyuki

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from genjutsu & bee

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to defend against his attacks, therefore itachi knew that bee could use a bijuudama so he clearly stated that nothing short of said attack would have a chance at destroying it.

Not to mention when the CBT got

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big [which only took a few pages] KN6 tbbs were fodder to it, meaning all nagato has to do is protect the core for a small amount of time, [assuming it can even be destroyed by such attacks in the first place] which can easily be done by intercepting their attacks via preta path or summons. Since the CBT will already be extremely high up in the air it gives nagato plenty of time to intercept their attacks.

Yes Itachi said to fire there strongest long-range attack he didn't say it was necessary it was more of a precaution. Itachi could also get close enough and totsuka the whole thing too

 

[Tsukukami]

Then nagato jumps off & levitates like

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, if anything the bird still helps him reach the sky faster but it hardly prevents him from flying altogether.



Lol Until I see the scans of susanoo arrows & magatamas reaching the same level of DC as a bijuudama then the core isn't getting destroyed.



We've only seen the core get destroyed by an attack that involved a tbb which far surpassed all the other attacks aimed at it. Itachi said that it would take their

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to destroy it. He knows that killerbee is a perfect jin since gyuki

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from genjutsu & bee

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to defend against his attacks, therefore itachi knew that bee could use a bijuudama so he clearly stated that nothing short of said attack would have a chance at destroying it.

Not to mention when the CBT got

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big [which only took a few pages] KN6 tbbs were fodder to it, meaning all nagato has to do is protect the core for a small amount of time, [assuming it can even be destroyed by such attacks in the first place] which can easily be done by intercepting their attacks via preta path or summons. Since the CBT will already be extremely high up in the air it gives nagato plenty of time to intercept their attacks.

still a target for Amaterasu

lel that was overkill for CT it destroyed the area, the level attack I mentioned should suffice. Besides the manifestation of the 8 tails of Naruto was enough to end the jutsu




Yes Itachi said to fire there strongest long-range attack he didn't say it was necessary it was more of a precaution. Itachi could also get close enough and totsuka the whole thing too

 

[Tsukukami]

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Still a target for amaterasu



lel that was overkill for CT it destroyed the area, the level attack I mentioned should suffice. Besides the manifestation of the 8 tails of Naruto was enough to end the jutsu tbh we don't even know the durability Yasaka could have done the trick




Yes Itachi said to fire there strongest long-range attack he didn't say it was necessary it was more of a precaution. Itachi could also get close enough and totsuka the whole thing too

 

[KidGamer65]

Nagato wins.

-Susanoo attacks are all made of chakra. Preta Path would absorb them along with every other chakra based jutsu in their arsenal. Anything that can't be absorbed is evaded, and anything that can't be evaded is repelled via Shinra Tensei.

-Susanoo isn't strong enough to take CST. The only reason the villagers survived was because Pain spread it out in order to wipe out the whole village. If he uses it and puts the force on the Uchiha bros, their Susanoo are destroyed and their bodies are turned to mush.

-They can't destroy CT. Yes. Their arrows and magatama would work if they hit the exposed core, but considering the fact that by the time their attacks are launched and have reached the core, it'll be covered in a buttload of rock, these attacks aren't cutting it.

-Shared Vision makes Genjutsu irrelevant, and if Nagato is paying attention to Itachi this time around, you can forget about him taking out all his summons like he did last time.

 

[KingHashirama]

EMS Sasuke by himself can take it.

fan-fic guys who only has feats from being an immortal.. vs a guy who was doing bigger scale damage than him.. with a living body without getting tired..

His Chibaku tensei as a living being would be weaker compared to as an Edo tensei. No clue why he would use it from the start either.


PS: Just saw someone saying Itachi isn't a factor... the manga sure disagrees on Itachi being a huge factor or not.

 

[Draphsin]

Still a target for amaterasu

Doesn't change what the purpose of the summon was used for though.

lel that was overkill for CT it destroyed the area, the level attack I mentioned should suffice.

That's speculation, you have no idea how much power it took to destroy it so you don't know if it was overkill or not. This is also assuming you believe susanoo arrows & magatamas can hit the core before it gets covered in debris, because it takes a few moments to get completely covered.

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is what magatamas do to a layer of sand & rock, while

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is what susanoo arrows do. Unless you believe the DC of those susanoo arrows matches that of a tbb from KN6 then it isn't doing more damage than what was shown in my previous scan, which was next to none at all.

Besides the manifestation of the 8 tails of Naruto was enough to end the jutsu tbh we don't even know the durability Yasaka could have done the trick

@Bold: It was actually nagato's poor health & low chakra reserves that undid the jutsu. [

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We don't know it's durability, but what we do know is that it took a tbb to destroy it. Assuming that it would take anything less or anything more is speculation when we have nothing that says it's weaker than what was shown to destroy it.

Yes Itachi said to fire there strongest long-range attack he didn't say it was necessary it was more of a precaution.

It's the only thing we have to go off of.

Itachi could also get close enough and totsuka the whole thing too

Totsuka only seals souls, stated by the DB. In any case it would be covered by tons of rock by then.

 

[Tsukukami]

Doesn't change what the purpose of the summon was used for though.

True but that would prevent him from interfering for the time being

That's speculation, you have no idea how much power it took to destroy it so you don't know if it was overkill or not. This is also assuming you believe susanoo arrows & magatamas can hit the core before it gets covered in debris, because it takes a few moments to get completely covered.

It was defiantly overkill being as there was nothing left the amount that is actually needed is all speculation I agree

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is what magatamas do to a layer of sand & rock, while

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is what susanoo arrows do. Unless you believe the DC of those susanoo arrows matches that of a tbb from KN6 then it isn't doing more damage than what was shown in my previous scan, which was next to none at all.

Edo Itachi and EMS Sasuke can afford to launch multiple attacks and since they know there attacks will always land its a higher chance to destroy the thing.

@Bold: It was actually nagato's poor health & low chakra reserves that undid the jutsu. [

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We don't know it's durability, but what we do know is that it took a tbb to destroy it. Assuming that it would take anything less or anything more is speculation when we have nothing that says it's weaker than what was shown to destroy it.

I guess I can agree with that the jutsu seemed finished anyways he wasn't really pulling anything anymore.

Totsuka only seals souls, stated by the DB. In any case it would be covered by tons of rock by then.

Totsuka seals everything it pierces

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[Tsukukami]

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True but that would prevent him from interfering for the time being

It was defiantly overkill being as there was nothing left the amount that is actually needed is all speculation I agree


Edo Itachi and EMS Sasuke can afford to launch multiple attacks and since they know there attacks will always land its a higher chance to destroy the thing.

I guess I can agree with that the jutsu seemed finished anyways he wasn't really pulling anything anymore.

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[Tsukukami]

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True but that would prevent him from interfering for the time being

It was defiantly overkill being as there was nothing left the amount that is actually needed is all speculation I agree


Edo Itachi and EMS Sasuke can afford to launch multiple attacks and since they know there attacks will always land its a higher chance to destroy the thing.

I guess I can agree with that the jutsu seemed finished anyways he wasn't really pulling anything anymore.

Totsuka seals everything it pierces from the manga

 

[TRE MERCER]

Nagato wins.

-Susanoo attacks are all made of chakra. Preta Path would absorb them along with every other chakra based jutsu in their arsenal. Anything that can't be absorbed is evaded, and anything that can't be evaded is repelled via Shinra Tensei.

Nope... Preta will absorb Amaterasu but not before damage is done. Preta is absorbing Susanoo that's iffy considering Nagato who was using Preta to counter all of Naruto techs was hit point blank by a Susanoo palm. Also Kaguya who had no problem absorbing Amaterasu resorted to busting Susanoo instead of absorbing it. Susanoo could have been absorbed multiple times and never was Preta isn't absorbing shit.​

-Susanoo isn't strong enough to take CST. The only reason the villagers survived was because Pain spread it out in order to wipe out the whole village. If he uses it and puts the force on the Uchiha bros, their Susanoo are destroyed and their bodies are turned to mush.

Itachi is Edo so he isn't going to die. Sasuke takes cover inside one of his snake summonings and hide underground.​

-They can't destroy CT. Yes. Their arrows and magatama would work if they hit the exposed core, but considering the fact that by the time their attacks are launched and have reached the core, it'll be covered in a buttload of rock, these attacks aren't cutting it.

They will hit the exposed core considering the fact that it was atleast 30ft above Itachi Susanoo by that time multiple Arrows and Magatama's would have already plowed through the orb which doesn't even have this supreme durability that people claim it has. Or once the orb comes out Sasuke could launch Itachi toward is and Totsuka slices the orb.​

-Shared Vision makes Genjutsu irrelevant, and if Nagato is paying attention to Itachi this time around, you can forget about him taking out all his summons like he did last time.

Shared vision through what summonings? Itachi makes clones and they proceed to use Amaterasu to take them out. How he is going to stop his clones from using Amaterasu plus Itachi can cast Amaterasu on multiple targets at once.​

 

[KidGamer65]

Nope... Preta will absorb Amaterasu but not before damage is done.​

Preta absorbed B's cloak in a second or two. Amaterasu was on Karin for a good second or two and she didn't take any major damage. Nagato>Karin when it comes to physical everything. So no, Amaterasu is easily absorbed.

Preta is absorbing Susanoo that's iffy considering Nagato who was using Preta to counter all of Naruto techs was hit point blank by a Susanoo palm.

Surprise attack.

Also Kaguya who had no problem absorbing Amaterasu resorted to busting Susanoo instead of absorbing it.

It's easier to throw 5 air punches and obliterate Susanoo instead of sitting there and waiting for a good few minutes to absorb it, which leaves you open to other attacks, since you can't just move away while absorbing said Susanoo.

Susanoo could have been absorbed multiple times and never was Preta isn't absorbing shit.

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Good to know. Lol. Susanoo is chakra last time I checked. People used the same argument on Amaterasu. "It can't be absorbed because Nagato chose to use ST instead of Preta Path", but then Manga showed Madara absorbing it, and then it showed Kaguya absorbing it...then that argument ended up where it belongs, in the trash bin.

Itachi is Edo so he isn't going to die. Sasuke takes cover inside one of his snake summonings and hide underground.​

Not only can Sasuke not burrow underground before Shinra Tensei hits him, it turned Konoha into a giant crater. Going underground against something like that being focused on him and Itachi isn't going to save him. He's going to die a terrible, terrible death.

Itachi has to regenerate though, and that's when Nagato finishes him with Human Path.

They will hit the exposed core considering the fact that it was atleast 30ft above Itachi Susanoo by that time multiple Arrows and Magatama's would have already plowed through the orb which doesn't even have this supreme durability that people claim it has.​

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Arrows still have to be prepped, launched and they have to reach their target all before they reach a size even half of what it was in the last panel if they want to even have a chance of destroying the core, but since they can't do that...they fail, and they fail hard.

Or once the orb comes out Sasuke could launch Itachi toward is and Totsuka slices the orb.

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high up, then we can talk. Those are Mountains in case you didn't realize. Lol.