Nagato vs. EMS Madara (without Gedo Mazo and Kurama)

who wins?

  • Madara

    Votes: 8 47.1%
  • Nagato

    Votes: 9 52.9%

  • Total voters
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iEspada

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Same fight, but Nagato cant use his gedo mazo with tailed beasts power, madara cant summon kurama.

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Dunno. Whoever wins does so with extreme difficulty.
 

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Without Gedo Mazo, Madara with low difficult. No chance for winning against the perfect Susanoo, considering Madara can use powerful Genjutsus and Amaterasu as well.
 

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Nagato mid-high difficulty.
 

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Nagato still wins, Rinnegan > EMS.

Preta path to absorb all attacks (including susano'o)
Shinra Tensai to get rid of ameterasu (if he even has it)
Animal Summoning (dog) to look for him and avoid Tsukuyomi.
 

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Nagato extreme dif


Asura Path boosted movement would get to PS before he can slash the sword twice, and the first slash can be diverted with Shinra Tensei. The rapid rate of Preta Path absorption as we saw vs Bee's v2 Bijuu cloak will destabilize PS very, very quickly
 

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Madara, with moderate difficulty.

Without Gedo Mazo there's no way for Nagato to actually hurt Madara inside his perfect Susanoo. And I can hardly see it falling prey to Chibaku Tensei, considering that a mere swung of its sword, without actually touching anything, destroyed an entire meteorite and cut two distant mountains. And as if that's not enough, Susanoo can wield two of those huge blades.

The rest of Nagato's summonings won't stand much of a chance before Susanoo's sword and Amaterasu.

As for absorbing Susanoo, that's nearly impossible. That thing has about the size of Gedo Mazo, meaning that even one of its fingers has at least twice the size of Nagato. He took a few seconds, not an instant, to absorb Bee's human-sized Bijuu cloak. If he tries to absorb Susanoo, it'll just kick him away or directly attack him with its swords. That is to say if he actually gets close enough. Susanoo is, despite its size, not in any way clumsy. Quite the contray, it's very fast and agile. Somebody claimed that absorbing a tiny part of Susanoo would 'destabilize' it, but that's completely made up out of thin air, considering that not even the rotation Jiraiya's Chou Oodama Rasengan became astable while being absorbed. Furthermore that stabilization seems to be nothing but Susanoo obtaining its armour. But even if parts should be absorbed, since it's made up of Chakra, it can simply regenerate. Most importantly, Madara can still act while being inside it, probably even leave it.

Now, I didn't even mention Madara's Genjutsu or his giant fan, that is currently under Tobi's possession and whose abilities are yet unkown. But since is Tobi's carrying it around all the time, it must be pretty delicious.
 
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Nagato. Madara can get pulled out of perfect susanoo with banshou tennin, Nagato can the finish him.

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Nagato extreme dif


Asura Path boosted movement would get to PS before he can slash the sword twice, and the first slash can be diverted with Shinra Tensei. The rapid rate of Preta Path absorption as we saw vs Bee's v2 Bijuu cloak will destabilize PS very, very quickly

Too much of nonsense. Susanoo is lightning fast and even the normal sized one would crush Asura easily. The absorption is really no worth talking about, Susanoos size is immense and the idea that Nagato would have the chance to absorb Susanoo without any action of Madara, is rather pathetic.

Preta-Path is highly overrated here, rendering whole forests of hashirama useless with one touch and absorbing the perfect Susanoo; such a pathetic battle sequence would never happen. The perfect Susanoo is way too much for Nagato, especially when Madara has a lot of other abilities as well.
 
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ok...lets resrict preta and deva and than madara stays maybe a chance:sy:

nagato is nothing before madara, if he even trys to come near madara his susanoo will just swing is swords and wipe him out. one swing destroyed 2 mountains + a meteorite, only the shock wave of the sword and you are saying nagato mid diff? too much of nonsense indeed, susanoos attacks can change the maps lmao and nagato can counter this and absorb the susanoo which is huger than gedo mazo :sy:
 

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Nagato. People are VASTLY overestimating EMS Madara's abilities. Also, Perfect Susanoo clearly needs the Rinnegan, with the proof on the last page of chapter 588.

Please stop overestimating EMS Madara...
 

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Nagato. Madara can get pulled out of perfect susanoo with banshou tennin, Nagato can the finish him.

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Heyheyhey! I remember posting this argument somewhere. I hope you got it from me; It'd make me feel cool. xd

But yeah, Nagato mid-high diff.
 

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Nagato mid-high difficulty. He has complete mastery over the rennigan and all its hacked jutsus. Genjutsu won't work because of shared vision and sensing abilities of Nagato.
 
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