Nagato vs Akatsuki

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Nagato is like he was after absorbing Killer Bee's chakra, but he's alive and mobile.
His opponents are:
Kisame with Samehada
Itachi, like he was when fought Sasuke, so very sick
Kakuzu, who has 5 hearts but starts with all of them inside his body
Hidan
Deidara
Sasori
Konan
Zetsu
Orochimaru

Random encounter in the forests, so no prep
Distance: 10 metres
SM: In Character
Intel: manga (note well; apart for Konan and Zetsu, nobody in Akatsuki know the guy is Pain, and they also know only Deva Path skills)
Restrictions: Doton: Domu and ET
 

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Only factor is Itachi who gets mid diffd.
Nagato would still win since domu is restricted

Unrestricted domu and Kakuzu solos
 

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Unrestrict Domu and Nagato would be outlasted since he can't penetrate it. It's so potent that even soul removal won't work.

So yeah, Kakuzu solos like ARGUS said if unrestricted. For Nagato to win he needs to use CT or CST soon. But Deidara, Itachi and Kisame should be able to obliterate the core of CT before it gathers too much debris, and Itachi's Susanoo should survive CST, or at least protect him and the people inside of it from it. So if Itachi can do that and keep Sasori, Deidara, and at least Oro alive then they can rape Nagato during the cooldown, if not only Itachi survives and then he still kills Nagato during the cooldown.

If Nagato doesn't jump to his trumps then he gets overwhelmed.

-Itachi engaging CQC with Nagato using Susanoo will force him to utilize the Deva Path. That introduces the 5 second cooldown.
-Deidara's explosions can't be absorbed. So he'll need ST to block them, and if Itachi has forced him to use ST then he'll have to use Cerberus to block the explosions.
-Only for Totsuka to seal it.
-IS can't be absorbed either.

So while Nagato is being kept busy by Itachi Sasori and Deidara spam attacks in the background. Eventually he dies. Much sooner than later.
 

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All at the same time? Well he would lose:omg:
Care to explain how?

Only factor is Itachi who gets mid diffd.
Nagato would still win since domu is restricted

Unrestricted domu and Kakuzu solos
Kakuzu can't do anything to Nagato, he is definitely in an other level

Unrestrict Domu and Nagato would be outlasted since he can't penetrate it. It's so potent that even soul removal won't work.

So yeah, Kakuzu solos like ARGUS said if unrestricted. For Nagato to win he needs to use CT or CST soon. But Deidara, Itachi and Kisame should be able to obliterate the core of CT before it gathers too much debris, and Itachi's Susanoo should survive CST, or at least protect him and the people inside of it from it. So if Itachi can do that and keep Sasori, Deidara, and at least Oro alive then they can rape Nagato during the cooldown, if not only Itachi survives and then he still kills Nagato during the cooldown.

If Nagato doesn't jump to his trumps then he gets overwhelmed.

-Itachi engaging CQC with Nagato using Susanoo will force him to utilize the Deva Path. That introduces the 5 second cooldown.
-Deidara's explosions can't be absorbed. So he'll need ST to block them, and if Itachi has forced him to use ST then he'll have to use Cerberus to block the explosions.
-Only for Totsuka to seal it.
-IS can't be absorbed either.

So while Nagato is being kept busy by Itachi Sasori and Deidara spam attacks in the background. Eventually he dies. Much sooner than later.
How can you say Domu can resist soul removal? That is not a physical attack, and this is proven by the fact that hose who got their soul removed didn't report any physical damage? Are you picturing a scene in which Nagato whips a tree with a laughing Kakuzu who can't report any damage?
Also knowing Kakuzu, don't you think he would have attacked Pain Deva while angry for a whatever reason, if he wasn't scared by his huge power?

Anyway, remember the fact the Akatsukis only know Deva Path, and Nagato at that distance would likely start blasting them away with CST. As you said, Itachi can protect a few with his Susanoo (not as many as Sasuke cause his Susanoo is smaller) so shall we say the strongest two guys besides himself, Kisame and Orochimaru? While Konan can decompose herself and maybe survive, and Kakuzu's 5 heart maybe could give him a hope of surviving, and Hidan survives as well but all shattered apart.
Let's continue to follow you and say they would attack him during the cooldown. Nagato is way superior than Deva Path and he doesn't need that much time to refresh, but anyway he has all his other paths to use, while Itachi is already very tired for his use of Susanoo and starts to spit blood. Now, Orochimaru can only use his Kusanagi sword, but it probably won't penetrate Asura armor, so soul removal and he's out. Kisame can summon water dome and fuse with Samehada, but that would make Konan useless since she's made by paper. Also, all of Kisame's attacks are useless on Nagato due to his preta path: he would drain him from his chakra and then flyout the water. Kakuzu's hearts get destroyed by Animal Path army, while Nagato proceeds to kill Kakuzu's person and the suffering Itachi
 

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How can you say Domu can resist soul removal? That is not a physical attack, and this is proven by the fact that hose who got their soul removed didn't report any physical damage? Are you picturing a scene in which Nagato whips a tree with a laughing Kakuzu who can't report any damage?
Also knowing Kakuzu, don't you think he would have attacked Pain Deva while angry for a whatever reason, if he wasn't scared by his huge power?
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Lel. That was obviously a troll. Obviously.

Anyway, remember the fact the Akatsukis only know Deva Path, and Nagato at that distance would likely start blasting them away with CST. As you said, Itachi can protect a few with his Susanoo (not as many as Sasuke cause his Susanoo is smaller) so shall we say the strongest two guys besides himself, Kisame and Orochimaru? While Konan can decompose herself and maybe survive, and Kakuzu's 5 heart maybe could give him a hope of surviving, and Hidan survives as well but all shattered apart.
Let's continue to follow you and say they would attack him during the cooldown. Nagato is way superior than Deva Path and he doesn't need that much time to refresh, but anyway he has all his other paths to use, while Itachi is already very tired for his use of Susanoo and starts to spit blood. Now, Orochimaru can only use his Kusanagi sword, but it probably won't penetrate Asura armor, so soul removal and he's out. Kisame can summon water dome and fuse with Samehada, but that would make Konan useless since she's made by paper. Also, all of Kisame's attacks are useless on Nagato due to his preta path: he would drain him from his chakra and then flyout the water. Kakuzu's hearts get destroyed by Animal Path army, while Nagato proceeds to kill Kakuzu's person and the suffering Itachi
At least 3 people can fit into the area Susanoo covers. Not just two. Not going to bother with the rest since you've assumed he'd save Kisame and Orochimaru and that he can only save 2 when it'd be better to save Sasori, Deidara and Orochimaru.
 

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Nagato loses here
CST is too widespread to kill them all unless he focuses it, in which case not everyone will get hit
CT core gets destroyed by Magatamas+GSB+C3
 

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Hmm...
Nagato may actually win this..
The majority of the Akatsuki heavy hitters (Kisame, Deidara, Kakuzu) rely a lot on ninjutsu, something that Preta Path completely nullifies. The fact that Itachi is on his deathbed makes it hard for him to be of much use. Manga intel means that Nagato knows about Sasori's poison so the team Trump card is gone.
Gotta give to Nagato 5,5/10
 

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Even with domu unrestricted, Nagato could win, assuming itachi isn't on the list. Mastering the different elements was one of the first things Nagato achieved when he was very young. Sure he could come up with a lightening tech to penetrate kakuzu's defence.
 
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Nagato loses here
CST is too widespread to kill them all unless he focuses it, in which case not everyone will get hit
CT core gets destroyed by Magatamas+GSB+C3
How many Mgatamas do you think Itachi can launch in that state? The other attacks aren't nothing compared to A Bijuu Dama and a Rsenshuriken from KCM Naruto

Hmm...
Nagato may actually win this..
The majority of the Akatsuki heavy hitters (Kisame, Deidara, Kakuzu) rely a lot on ninjutsu, something that Preta Path completely nullifies. The fact that Itachi is on his deathbed makes it hard for him to be of much use. Manga intel means that Nagato knows about Sasori's poison so the team Trump card is gone.
Gotta give to Nagato 5,5/10
Exactly what I think, totally agreed with you. Any fanboyism, even because Nagato is not my fav character, but I think in that state he can really clean the house aven aamong Akatsukis
 

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Akatsuki would win, CST aint killing hidan, orochimaru and kisame, sasori can use iron sand to block (even if it does penetrate it, it won't be enough to damage his core) then itachi saves the rest, CT gets destroyed with hidans village busting c3 (as itachi said, the gravity would pull the attack and booom! CT is negged), animal path gets taken care of with kakuzu's elemental attacks, totsuka or ama takes care of cerebus, while kisame is replenishing itachi with chakra, sasori would attack with iron sand+poisoned weapons, and deidara spams bombs, hidan just attacks like he does (not giving af bout being in the crossfire due to immortality), nagato is gonna be brutally murdered
 

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Akatsuki would win, CST aint killing hidan, orochimaru and kisame, sasori can use iron sand to block (even if it does penetrate it, it won't be enough to damage his core) then itachi saves the rest, CT gets destroyed with hidans village busting c3 (as itachi said, the gravity would pull the attack and booom! CT is negged), animal path gets taken care of with kakuzu's elemental attacks, totsuka or ama takes care of cerebus, while kisame is replenishing itachi with chakra, sasori would attack with iron sand+poisoned weapons, and deidara spams bombs, hidan just attacks like he does (not giving af bout being in the crossfire due to immortality), nagato is gonna be brutally murdered
Bold part: I assume you were referring to Deidara's c3 lol

The wrong with your speech is that you're talking like Nagato would stay immobile waiting for an attack to block with Deva Path. He would attack and defend, not just one of the two. Also, CST is not killing Hidan but the guy can't really do anything to Nagato, and Sasori's puppet army gets blown away with a shinra tensei, with all's connected with them. Itachi is in death bed so his stamina is not nearly enough to do all the things you're making him do.
Also, Nagato can levitate himself, and kill Deidara with Asura Path, while absorbing chakra from Kakuzu's attacks with Preta. And anyway I don't really think c3 is going to destroy CT core: for doing so it has been needed a Yasaka no Magatama, a Bijuu Dama and a Rasenshuriken from KCM Naruto, so a shock quite stronger than c3's.
About the destiny of the others I've already written
 

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Bold part: I assume you were referring to Deidara's c3 lol

The wrong with your speech is that you're talking like Nagato would stay immobile waiting for an attack to block with Deva Path. He would attack and defend, not just one of the two. Also, CST is not killing Hidan but the guy can't really do anything to Nagato, and Sasori's puppet army gets blown away with a shinra tensei, with all's connected with them. Itachi is in death bed so his stamina is not nearly enough to do all the things you're making him do.
Also, Nagato can levitate himself, and kill Deidara with Asura Path, while absorbing chakra from Kakuzu's attacks with Preta. And anyway I don't really think c3 is going to destroy CT core: for doing so it has been needed a Yasaka no Magatama, a Bijuu Dama and a Rasenshuriken from KCM Naruto, so a shock quite stronger than c3's.
About the destiny of the others I've already written
Yea I meant deidara, well I did'nt say nagato would be staying there and be defending as I stated how the akatsuki counter nagatos techniques, like CST, CT and animal path, if C3 is not enough kakuzu combines his ninjutsu and they take out the core, + as I said, kisame would replenish itachi's chakra, and kakuzu is not stupid enough to keep attacking nagato with ninjutsu just to see it get absorbed, they are not dumb, they would figure out ninjutsu is useless, and would attack with non ninjutsu attacks, sasori's iron sand would be a pain in the ass to deal with, while hidan is charging at nagato, konan would deal with the flying bird and send her exploding paper clones at nagato, since kakuzu is pretty much useless against nagato he then fights nagatos summons, itachi does'nt have to do much, missles gets neutralised with raiton gian, or c2 bombs, or sasori's iron sand, or kisame's ninjutsu, they are simply too much for him to handle
 

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Yea I meant deidara, well I did'nt say nagato would be staying there and be defending as I stated how the akatsuki counter nagatos techniques, like CST, CT and animal path, if C3 is not enough kakuzu combines his ninjutsu and they take out the core, + as I said, kisame would replenish itachi's chakra, and kakuzu is not stupid enough to keep attacking nagato with ninjutsu just to see it get absorbed, they are not dumb, they would figure out ninjutsu is useless, and would attack with non ninjutsu attacks, sasori's iron sand would be a pain in the ass to deal with, while hidan is charging at nagato, konan would deal with the flying bird and send her exploding paper clones at nagato, since kakuzu is pretty much useless against nagato he then fights nagatos summons, itachi does'nt have to do much, missles gets neutralised with raiton gian, or c2 bombs, or sasori's iron sand, or kisame's ninjutsu, they are simply too much for him to handle
The problem of "too much for him to handle" has already been solved since we all seem to agree that Nagato would start the dance with CST, that would inevitably eliminate the less resistant elements of Akatsuki (Sasori, Deidara, Zetsu ecc..) simply because the fight starts at 10 metres distance, and they have no way to escape such a shockwave from that distance: those who can tank stay alive, those who can't die or get useless (I'm referring to Hidan).
They're all in character, and that means Itachi would surely save Kisame with his Susanoo, and Orochimaru, Kakuzu and maybe Konan can resist aswell.
Now, even if Nagato couldn't use Deva Path for a while, he still can use all his other paths, or summon Gedou Mazo, and his human path would probably give him feats in Taijutsu that are better than those of anyone here
 

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The problem of "too much for him to handle" has already been solved since we all seem to agree that Nagato would start the dance with CST, that would inevitably eliminate the less resistant elements of Akatsuki (Sasori, Deidara, Zetsu ecc..) simply because the fight starts at 10 metres distance, and they have no way to escape such a shockwave from that distance: those who can tank stay alive, those who can't die or get useless (I'm referring to Hidan).
They're all in character, and that means Itachi would surely save Kisame with his Susanoo, and Orochimaru, Kakuzu and maybe Konan can resist aswell.
Now, even if Nagato couldn't use Deva Path for a while, he still can use all his other paths, or summon Gedou Mazo, and his human path would probably give him feats in Taijutsu that are better than those of anyone here
Orochimaru does'nt need to be saved, neither doeas kisame, they won't die from CST, sasori can block with his iron sand, and if he is in hiroku, CST might destroy hiroku but I doubt it would reach sasori's core, the only one who needs to be saved are deidara , konan can just turn to paper, she gets blown away, then she reforms, and itachi would just protect deidara, and then nagato is screwed because he can't use deva for a while, oro, konan and kakuzu would shit on all the summons, and itachi amaterasus the chamelion and seals the dog, and they focus on nagato
 

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Orochimaru does'nt need to be saved, neither doeas kisame, they won't die from CST, sasori can block with his iron sand, and if he is in hiroku, CST might destroy hiroku but I doubt it would reach sasori's core, the only one who needs to be saved are deidara , konan can just turn to paper, she gets blown away, then she reforms, and itachi would just protect deidara, and then nagato is screwed because he can't use deva for a while, oro, konan and kakuzu would shit on all the summons, and itachi amaterasus the chamelion and seals the dog, and they focus on nagato
Kisame, Orochimaru and Sasori need to be saved :/ don't really know why you keep saying that Iron Sand can block Chou Shinra Tensei, when any of the the feats Sasori shown are nearly at Nagato's level. Also, Nagato knows everything about Sasori, and wouldn't put much effort using Bansho Tenin on Sasori's real shell and stab his heart with the chakra rod.
Also, I wouldn't say Nagato would get that screwed up if he couldn't use Deva for a while, remember that he subjugated Naruto and Killer Bee not using Deva at all, but only human, Naraka and Asura :cool:
 

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Kisame, Orochimaru and Sasori need to be saved :/ don't really know why you keep saying that Iron Sand can block Chou Shinra Tensei, when any of the the feats Sasori shown are nearly at Nagato's level. Also, Nagato knows everything about Sasori, and wouldn't put much effort using Bansho Tenin on Sasori's real shell and stab his heart with the chakra rod.
Also, I wouldn't say Nagato would get that screwed up if he couldn't use Deva for a while, remember that he subjugated Naruto and Killer Bee not using Deva at all, but only human, Naraka and Asura :cool:
I don't recall nagato knowing everything bout sasori, gimme a scan, that been said, iron sand is more durable than gaaras sand, because ofcoarse this sand is made with iron, so it should be waay tougher, durable enough to save sasori's heart, kisame survived his chest being blown off, organs and all, he would be just fine against CST, samehada would heal him, I don't need to elaborate on oro, how well can nagato handle iron sand, c2 explosives, all them needles, konan exploding clones, and hidans scythe at the same time? Plus the poison gas, oro's kusanagi blade that extends, all at the same time, and itachi would just sneak in all that and land totsuka on nagato
 

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Unrestrict Domu and Nagato would be outlasted since he can't penetrate it. It's so potent that even soul removal won't work.

So yeah, Kakuzu solos like ARGUS said if unrestricted. For Nagato to win he needs to use CT or CST soon. But Deidara, Itachi and Kisame should be able to obliterate the core of CT before it gathers too much debris, and Itachi's Susanoo should survive CST, or at least protect him and the people inside of it from it. So if Itachi can do that and keep Sasori, Deidara, and at least Oro alive then they can rape Nagato during the cooldown, if not only Itachi survives and then he still kills Nagato during the cooldown.

If Nagato doesn't jump to his trumps then he gets overwhelmed.

-Itachi engaging CQC with Nagato using Susanoo will force him to utilize the Deva Path. That introduces the 5 second cooldown.
-Deidara's explosions can't be absorbed. So he'll need ST to block them, and if Itachi has forced him to use ST then he'll have to use Cerberus to block the explosions.
-Only for Totsuka to seal it.
-IS can't be absorbed either.

So while Nagato is being kept busy by Itachi Sasori and Deidara spam attacks in the background. Eventually he dies. Much sooner than later.
asura path at the hands of nagato would be OP as hell and his asura path limbs neg diff all of them in CQC as he was capable of restraining kcm who is stronger than when he fought pain, who could toss a rhino like a toy. he can also absorb any of their attacks while he launches his own. he rips hidan and kakazu soul out. bansho tennin sasor into a cannon blast. kisame water dome does nothing as a normal shinra tensei of more than enough for nagato to destroy it. gedo mazo soul dragon and chibaku tensei at full power from him along with him spamming cannons with normal powerful shinra tensei (like he used against kcm naruo) negs anything they throw at him. CST tensei also negs yata mirror and whatever defense they have. if he spams the chakra cannon he used in storm 3 for his ultimate with tat much power he negs while the soul dragon gets everyone of them, so they cant even just focus on nagato, also his summonings neg them
 
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