Nagato Uzumaki vs Madara Uchiha

[byakumuu]

intel
nagato=itachi

nagatos chakra is too powerful to have tsukoyomi sustained against him

nagato doesnt repel , he absorbs , increasing his own chakra

the interval was only for deva path techniques and the interval is shorter the less chakra is used , nagato is fast too you know even with the burns on his legs

raiga bomb is destroying 20ft of soft ground

shinra tensei is destroying 12k cubed thick ground
ST is far weaker than CT and shinra tensei is enough to beat susanoo, also susanoo has a weak spot at the feet , so ST does the job easy

itachi would only beat nagato if nagato cannot use rinnegan techniques and even then the fight is close , i rest my case

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[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

intel
nagato=itachi

nagatos chakra is too powerful to have tsukoyomi sustained against him

nagato doesnt repel , he absorbs , increasing his own chakra

the interval was only for deva path techniques and the interval is shorter the less chakra is used , nagato is fast too you know even with the burns on his legs

raiga bomb is destroying 20ft of soft ground

shinra tensei is destroying 12k cubed thick ground
ST is far weaker than CT and shinra tensei is enough to beat susanoo, also susanoo has a weak spot at the feet , so ST does the job easy

itachi would only beat nagato if nagato cannot use rinnegan techniques and even then the fight is close , i rest my case

for the bold part

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

for the bold part

WELL i think 6 paths can distract itachi and release genjutsu , also the stronger the chakra the stronger the genjutsu can be broken ....

when nagato fought hanzo he was showing speed on par with current neji...

 

[TheGr8Uchiha]

there is a reason why Madara was kabuto's 6th coffin...

 

[Raito]

rinnegan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.....EMS

Don't think so .

2. the mo ****ing rinnegan gives u monster amounts of chakra , therefore a chakra flow disturbance would break stuff like tsukoyomi

Where was mentioned again that the Rinnegan gives you a big amount of chakra? Where was mentioned that a chakra flow disturbance is enough to break through Genjutsus from the Sharingans niveau? Try to reread the Manga to get the right informations. Itachi confirmed, that it's impossible to break through Tsukuyomi and that only an Uchiha (Uchiha blood is necessary) WITH Sharingan could beat him - that you can't break through Tsukuyomi without being an Uchiha with Sharingan is fact, stated by the autor Kishimoto.

3.amaterasu would be absorbed by the preta path jutsu

After he got hit by it. Nagato absorbs Ninjutsu that he sees coming. As I said it before, Amaterasu arises directly before Nagatos body and is associated with excruciating pain. So even if Nagato could absorb Amaterasu, it leaves traces.

4.susanoo has a weak spot... the bottom , shinra tensei is all that is required for susanoo

Fail. A combination from Danzos fuuton and the suction of his huge summon couldn't move the incomplete Susanoo from his place. Also the thorax from Susanoo protected Sasuke from A's Raiga Bomu. Shinra Tensei can't be stronger. According to Darui, no one was able to survive the Raiga Bomu. Show me only 1 Shinobi, who died after a Shinra Tensei, a relatively good shinobi. There's no one, because any relatively good shinobi can survive it.

6.nagato wasnt a leader of a legendary clan , thus less famous , nagato ... the meaning of destruction and power to its purest form

Wow. A very logical and understandable opinion. With his bombs Deidara is also able to destroy a whole village (c3). With his c0 he's able to create a 10km wide explosion. Who's the meaning of destruction? Nagato, who has shortened his life span by destroying a village? Maybe Deidara is stronger, because he can destroy villages as well and without short his life span? THe Rinnegan smashes only, destruction is not the main thing.

7.shinra tensei and bansho tenin easily stops mokuton

Of course. Naruto used hundred Kagebunshin powered up with Kyuubis Chakra, to destroy the trees. A Shinra Tensei would have the same effect. I'm impressed, you're the epitome of logic.

ull info , if naruto didnt have intel on nagato when he fought NARUTO(stronger than itachi)BEE(stronger than itachi) and poor old itachi , they wouldve died

Yes, Bee and Naruto are of course stronger than Itachi - I remember that Bee only survived Itachis fire shurikens because Itachi warned him. You are so pathetic.

10.your all hype and no logic

Yes, I only hype and you're full of logic.

nagatos chakra is too powerful to have tsukoyomi sustained against him

Kyuubis chakra amount and strength is way bigger than Nagatos - Madara controled Kyuubi with only his Sharingan. Who said, that a strong chakra is necessary to break through genjutsus? Do you follow the manga? Don't you remember when Itachi said, that only an Uchiha with the Sharingan can break through Tsukuyomi? Maybe no!

itachi would only beat nagato if nagato cannot use rinnegan techniques and even then the fight is close , i rest my case

Fail.
I'm not arguing with you any longer, it's pointless..it's ridiculous to talk with someone of your level, sorry. From now I will only answer meaningful posts.

 

[Raito]

Lets look at Narutos new strength. He's able to handle with 5 Bijus. That's what I call power - a greater power than Nagato. On the other side we have Sasuke, who possesses the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan now. According to Itachi, with the EMS you can gain "true" power. This power will also be necessary, since Sasuke is Narutos final opponent and represents the Uchihas. Therefore Sasuke must be on Narutos level.

And now let's take a look at Madara. He possesses the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan too, but his Sharingan is on a higher level than Sasukes. This is probably the reason, why Madara has his reputation. But the current Madara hasn't only the mighty EMS, on top he possesses the Rinnegan and also Senju Hashiramas strength.

So Madara combines the full strength of the Sharingan, the Rinnegan and the wood release.
He's rightly Kabutos trump card and the representative of the god's power.

It's obvious, that Madara is the strongest character now, Nagato won't be in the position to defeat Madara.

I hope that you finally understand it.

 

[TheSages456]

BM naruto vs edo madara

Who wins

 

[Zlad]

Re: BM naruto vs edo madara

For now? Naruto

 

[bryditch]

Re: BM naruto vs edo madara

naruto of course....

 

[Lord Snow]

Re: BM naruto vs edo madara

Edo madara still wins.

 

[iSpeak]

Re: BM naruto vs edo madara

Ill go with Naruto, I wana see more from Madara though. But im not sure if Naruto can seal him.

 

[Blaze Release]

Re: BM naruto vs edo madara

Edo madara

 

[stinkey]

Re: BM naruto vs edo madara

madara

 

[Naruto N. Uzumaki]

Re: BM naruto vs edo madara

naruto no prob he just needs some one to seel him

 

[Naruto33]

Re: BM naruto vs edo madara

madara would win... but becoz of plot-no-jutsu, naruto

 

[EdoTensei Itachi]

Re: BM naruto vs edo madara

they should be equal but ill give a very slight edge to naruto because of plot no jutsu

 

[-Vegeta-]

Re: BM naruto vs edo madara

Madara since Naruto has no sealing jutsu.

 

[bryditch]

Re: BM naruto vs edo madara

don't bring plot no jutsu in every discussion...cause everyone will be nothing without plot no jutsu u guys keep on saying.....goku, kenshin, and every single hero in an anime existed with their powers because of plot no jutsu....don;t state the obvious its a manga afterall...


also sasuke is strong because of plot no jutsu.....

 

[Okumura Rin]

BM Naruto vs Non Edo Madara.

I was looking at the other thread with Naruto fighting Edo Madara and they said Edo Madara would win because Naruto has no sealing jutsu.

Well... Who would win if Madara wasn't an edo summon but still had all the jutsu's we have already seen? Does Madara still win or does Naruto win?

 

[Zlad]

Re: BM Naruto vs Non Edo Madara.

Naruto