Nagato Uzumaki vs Madara Uchiha

Nagato Uzumaki vs Madara Uchiha

  • Nagato the man who exists beyond life and death

    Votes: 74 42.3%
  • Madara the man who can summon meteors at will

    Votes: 101 57.7%

  • Total voters
    175

Killer B

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Nov 14, 2011
Messages
1,786
Reaction score
94
you people never refer to the manga.......NAGATO HAS MADE METEORS TOO!!!!!!
everyone on here says thats why Madara will win but they both can make meteors so your argument is invalid.....Nagato wins this with his Paths and Gezo Mado

 

Baldy

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Aug 28, 2011
Messages
12,039
Reaction score
260
Tough lol...Madara extreme difficulty perhaps?
 

MangekyouJ

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Dec 8, 2011
Messages
1,085
Reaction score
58
How stupid are you? As a Rinnegan carrier Madara can use Shinra Tensei too. And who use a stronger Shinra Tensei, an Uzumaki who carreis the Rinnegan or an Uchiha who carries the Rinnegan, EMS and Senju Hashiramas genes with the wood release.


Nagato has the Rinnegan only, all techniques Nagato use, Madara can use as well! How stupid are you to think that Nagato could beat Madara?!

Madara even said that he awakened those abilities shortly BEFORE his battle with Hashirama, meaning that he doesn't have the experience of using them. Otherwise if he had used them, I don't think Hashirama would've live through a Meteor attack or Shinra Tensei....the Uzumaki clan specialized in Longevity correct?? Meaning that he'd has all the time in the world to master the Rinnegan. Just because he showed that he could use a couple of the Rinnegan's abilities doesn't mean that he's abilities are stronger.

I say that because Oonaki pretty much stopped the Meteor with little help from his alliance friends, but it took a 6-tailed Beast to stop Nagato's....are you seeing the different levels to asswhoopery here?? So what, he has Wood Release....Do you seriously really think that's gonna make any difference while he's using the other 6 Paths??

If anything, the way how he'd use his EMS would be the true and real threat. I'll give it to Madara, he's a true beast....and his Susanoo make make or break the tide of the battle, and I mean by that alone....I don't think anyone with the Rinnegan can be put under Genjutsu.....just saying.....
 

MangekyouJ

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Dec 8, 2011
Messages
1,085
Reaction score
58
you people never refer to the manga.......NAGATO HAS MADE METEORS TOO!!!!!!
everyone on here says thats why Madara will win but they both can make meteors so your argument is invalid.....Nagato wins this with his Paths and Gezo Mado


Not to mention that his are a lot stronger too...I SERIOULY doubt that Oonaki could or even would try to stop a meteor make by Nagato......just saying....
 

Totsuka No Tsurugi

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Sep 8, 2011
Messages
10,816
Reaction score
726
Not to mention that his are a lot stronger too...I SERIOULY doubt that Oonaki could or even would try to stop a meteor make by Nagato......just saying....

nagato meteor is small, the reason why onooki can stop it because he have a good jutsu that can make object become lighther but look what happen when madara bring the 2nd LOL,

and maybe what u mean with stronger is nagato chibaku tensei, but if nagato did that madara can just summon the meteor and smash the CT and destroy it
 

lukaberlec

Member
Joined
Feb 7, 2011
Messages
105
Reaction score
11
I think nagato cause he has gedo mazo..and i think he could easily win..dont underestimate nagato ..madara is just past so nagato win :)
 

Feen

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Jan 12, 2012
Messages
707
Reaction score
24
I reckon madara would win
 

MangekyouJ

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Dec 8, 2011
Messages
1,085
Reaction score
58
nagato meteor is small, the reason why onooki can stop it because he have a good jutsu that can make object become lighther but look what happen when madara bring the 2nd LOL,

and maybe what u mean with stronger is nagato chibaku tensei, but if nagato did that madara can just summon the meteor and smash the CT and destroy it

I'm not gonna lie....I laughed my ass off when he brought the second one down....I heard the Sephiroth theme in my head and everything....it was like FFVII all over again....I kinda knighted Madara as the new Sephiroth at that point with his kamikaze ass....lol

Which brings me to my next question and I don't think anyone knows because Kishi hasn't shown any signs of it, well it's a couple of questions:
1) In the Edo mode, Do they have limited or unlimited chakra?
2) If unlimited chakra is what they have, why didn't Madara just spam meteors??

Just something I was thinking about while I'm not doing anything at work...xd....just sayin.....:no_ignore:
 

Lt Iceman

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Nov 30, 2011
Messages
808
Reaction score
48
I'm not gonna lie....I laughed my ass off when he brought the second one down....I heard the Sephiroth theme in my head and everything....it was like FFVII all over again....I kinda knighted Madara as the new Sephiroth at that point with his kamikaze ass....lol

Which brings me to my next question and I don't think anyone knows because Kishi hasn't shown any signs of it, well it's a couple of questions:
1) In the Edo mode, Do they have limited or unlimited chakra?
2) If unlimited chakra is what they have, why didn't Madara just spam meteors??

Just something I was thinking about while I'm not doing anything at work...xd....just sayin.....:no_ignore:

1)In edo no infinite chakra,chakra reserves are the same as when they were alive

2)Plot no Jutsu,the omnipotent plot no jutsu my friend
 

Gouryuuka

Member
Joined
Nov 30, 2011
Messages
371
Reaction score
41
Okay heres what I believe about the outcome of this battle:

I believe Nagato is the winner here, but not by the biggest margin. Madara has alot to offer in his arsenal against the mighty Uzumaki, but there are alot of things that Nagato has to nullify most of Madara's techniques. Here are key points I'd like to mention in my arguement:

1) Alot of you say, 2 meteors>Chibaku Tensei or that the 2 meteors are all that Madara would need. Clearly those of you who say this are misunderstood. Madara would not be stupid enough to use this technique unless he is bent on sacrificing himself as well. Because, if most of you can recall the manga, Madara was only able to resort to that attack because he was an EDO. If he was alive, he would die too and Im sure a man with enough battle experience as Madara would not be that reckless.

2)Madara's Mokuton is powerful of course. It took an army of full powered Naruto Bunshin's to halt. However, this does not nullify the fact that Nagato has these defensive capabilities: Preta Path to absorb (if he can), Shinra Tensei and the Asura machine capabilities to destroy the trees before it can reach him.

3)Madara's EMS techniques are his biggest asset to this battle due to his inexperience with the Rinnegan to its full capabilities. But, even with EMS we have seen a few things that would counter these powerful techniques under Nagato's arsenal.

---Amaterasu is vulnerable to Shinra Tensei. We see that in the battle with Itachi, Nagato was able to Shinra Tensei the flames away. Some may argue that he was hit and revived from being an Edo afterwards. However, remember that Nagato is being directly controlled by Kabuto. That hindered his natural reaction time to the attack, thus causing him to get hit. If it was Nagato all on his own then he would obviously have the ability to Shinra Tensei seeing it coming.

---Susanoo and the Gedo Mazo are matched up together. The only problem with Nagato is that the Gedo Mazo does not fully surround him like Susanoo would to Madara. So this part is clearly up to who can play their technique better.

---Tsukuyomi is the deadliest attack in Madara's arsenal. Because Rinnegan does not have any counter to genjutsu, at least not any we know of. So Tsukuyomi could allow Madara to win, if he was able to trap Nagato in it.

Now those are the main points but we also have, under Nagato's arsenal:
---Animal Summoning that are a pain in the ass. Cerebrus dogs will act as the biggest diversion or nuisance before Madara figures out how they work. Chameleon would be useless against EMS but another Rinnegan, Im not sure if Rinnegan Madara would be able to find Nagato. The Bird gives Nagato an aerial advantage, meaning that it could render most of the EMS genjutsu techniques out of play.
---Asura techniques are a powerful offense that could do alot of damage on its own.
---Preta path renders all of Madara's high level Katon jutsu out of play.
---Chibaku Tensei is Nagato's most fearsome weapon. Unlike the two meteors that Madara cannot use(unless he wants to die with Nagato), Chibaku Tensei will be death for Madara. Even if Madara uses Yasaka Magatama, it took a Rasenshuriken and TBB to take Chibaku Tensei down. We know that Madara only has 1/3 of the total power needed to destroy it because he doesnt have a Rasenshuriken nor TBB.

Also, Nagato would outlast Madara if it came down to it. Remember, Uzumakis have crazy chakra reserves while Uchihas have powerful chakra.

That is most of the facts that I need to state relating to this battle. I am not a Nagato fanboy and if you take a look at my avatar, you would know otherwise. This is my fair opinion on this battle and even if nobody agrees, Im still entitled to show others some evidence they can use to support either combatant.
 
Last edited:

inflame

Member
Joined
Mar 25, 2011
Messages
358
Reaction score
18
In my opinion genjutsu does not work on renningun. What leads me to this conclusion....... It's simple really, when nagato was going to attack konoha he used his eye's to see the invisable barrier that surrounds konoha and worns them of an intrruder which make's me think that he can also see through genjustsu. Another example is the man that jiraya caught had multipule mental blocks. Also when kakashi's eye looked into the renningun all it say was the renningun and pitch black. These are the things that tell me genjutsu does not work on renningun. This is all a theroy of mine so if you dislike don't be flamin XD.
I have stated that this battle is 50/50 but i go for nagato mostly because i like him more. Also another reason is that he has more knowladge about the renningun and more chakra.
( Sorry for the spelling )
 

kyuubinaru

Member
Joined
Nov 14, 2010
Messages
78
Reaction score
7
Nagato would win. Why? Even if Madara would summon his meteors, Gedo Meza would stop them. Also Nagato could use the same shinra tensei like the one he used to destroy the leaf. Madara would put up a helluva fight, but in the end its all Nagato.
 

NaruGokuPWNS

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Jun 28, 2011
Messages
588
Reaction score
6
it would be tru but u forget that if he wasnt en edo he might not be able to use that jutsu as it would kill him to he said in the manga its ok cuz their bodies would jus reform

Nah, final and perfect final sussano would protect him.
btw. Madara obviously wins, its MADARA you know.
 

Kira was Righteous

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Jun 21, 2011
Messages
6,568
Reaction score
421
Okay heres what I believe about the outcome of this battle:

I believe Nagato is the winner here, but not by the biggest margin. Madara has alot to offer in his arsenal against the mighty Uzumaki, but there are alot of things that Nagato has to nullify most of Madara's techniques. Here are key points I'd like to mention in my arguement:

1) Alot of you say, 2 meteors>Chibaku Tensei or that the 2 meteors are all that Madara would need. Clearly those of you who say this are misunderstood. Madara would not be stupid enough to use this technique unless he is bent on sacrificing himself as well. Because, if most of you can recall the manga, Madara was only able to resort to that attack because he was an EDO. If he was alive, he would die too and Im sure a man with enough battle experience as Madara would not be that reckless.

2)Madara's Mokuton is powerful of course. It took an army of full powered Naruto Bunshin's to halt. However, this does not nullify the fact that Nagato has these defensive capabilities: Preta Path to absorb (if he can), Shinra Tensei and the Asura machine capabilities to destroy the trees before it can reach him.

3)Madara's EMS techniques are his biggest asset to this battle due to his inexperience with the Rinnegan to its full capabilities. But, even with EMS we have seen a few things that would counter these powerful techniques under Nagato's arsenal.

---Amaterasu is vulnerable to Shinra Tensei. We see that in the battle with Itachi, Nagato was able to Shinra Tensei the flames away. Some may argue that he was hit and revived from being an Edo afterwards. However, remember that Nagato is being directly controlled by Kabuto. That hindered his natural reaction time to the attack, thus causing him to get hit. If it was Nagato all on his own then he would obviously have the ability to Shinra Tensei seeing it coming.

---Susanoo and the Gedo Mazo are matched up together. The only problem with Nagato is that the Gedo Mazo does not fully surround him like Susanoo would to Madara. So this part is clearly up to who can play their technique better.

---Tsukuyomi is the deadliest attack in Madara's arsenal. Because Rinnegan does not have any counter to genjutsu, at least not any we know of. So Tsukuyomi could allow Madara to win, if he was able to trap Nagato in it.

Now those are the main points but we also have, under Nagato's arsenal:
---Animal Summoning that are a pain in the ass. Cerebrus dogs will act as the biggest diversion or nuisance before Madara figures out how they work. Chameleon would be useless against EMS but another Rinnegan, Im not sure if Rinnegan Madara would be able to find Nagato. The Bird gives Nagato an aerial advantage, meaning that it could render most of the EMS genjutsu techniques out of play.
---Asura techniques are a powerful offense that could do alot of damage on its own.
---Preta path renders all of Madara's high level Katon jutsu out of play.
---Chibaku Tensei is Nagato's most fearsome weapon. Unlike the two meteors that Madara cannot use(unless he wants to die with Nagato), Chibaku Tensei will be death for Madara. Even if Madara uses Yasaka Magatama, it took a Rasenshuriken and TBB to take Chibaku Tensei down. We know that Madara only has 1/3 of the total power needed to destroy it because he doesnt have a Rasenshuriken nor TBB.

Also, Nagato would outlast Madara if it came down to it. Remember, Uzumakis have crazy chakra reserves while Uchihas have powerful chakra.

That is most of the facts that I need to state relating to this battle. I am not a Nagato fanboy and if you take a look at my avatar, you would know otherwise. This is my fair opinion on this battle and even if nobody agrees, Im still entitled to show others some evidence they can use to support either combatant.

+ rep good explanation and unbiased
 

pensilol

Member
Joined
Nov 10, 2011
Messages
352
Reaction score
6
Chibaku Tensei > Meteors

The meteors get easily attracted to the sphere and make it bigger.
 

EdoMadara

Member
Joined
Oct 13, 2011
Messages
147
Reaction score
4
you comparing nagato to madara was a mistake. just comparing sasuke to itachi. both has rinnegan , but madara has a bigger jutsu , nagato create small meteor man while madara create 2 big ones, nagato summons gedo mazo why madara cannot? gedo mazo not a special summon to nagato, but to rinnegan users. nagato cast Chibaku Tensei , his ultimate ass tech and leveled by TBB+RS+YasakasMagatama. i believe madara would create bigger one CT sphere almost on Rikkudou CT's Level.
 

bpkiddo

Member
Joined
Jan 1, 2012
Messages
68
Reaction score
4
oonki stopped that meteor


how have i made madara weaker i gave him all rinnegan techniques when hes had the rinnegan for like five minutes ive put them both at there maximum potential

oonoki could only do it cus he made it alot lighter.... idt nagato could stop it especially with the second meteor right behind
 
Top