[VS] Nagato/pain vs Obito

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Obito wins. Nothing in Nagato's arsenal will help against Kamui, not even Shinra Tensei, as Obito can sit back and let the Gedo Mazo do all of his fighting for him. No attack Nagato has will phase it bar Chibaku Tensei, but Obito has shown the ability to make things intangible if he is making contact with it, so he can do the same for the Mazo so CT won't pull them up and will end up being wasted.

In the end the Mazo smashes Nagato or Obito warps Nagato during the 5 second interval of his Shinra Tensei.
 

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Obito wins. Nothing in Nagato's arsenal will help against Kamui, not even Shinra Tensei, as Obito can sit back and let the Gedo Mazo do all of his fighting for him. No attack Nagato has will phase it bar Chibaku Tensei, but Obito has shown the ability to make things intangible if he is making contact with it, so he can do the same for the Mazo so CT won't pull them up and will end up being wasted.

In the end the Mazo smashes Nagato or Obito warps Nagato during the 5 second interval of his Shinra Tensei.

Eh im with Dr.proof that Kamui can be absorbed .. So Preta is a solid counter
 

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Eh im with Dr.proof that Kamui can be absorbed .. So Preta is a solid counter

lol. No it can't. There is no chakra in Kamui to absorb. Chakra is simply spent to activate the technique.
 

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lol. No it can't. There is no chakra in Kamui to absorb. Chakra is simply spent to activate the technique.

..But is that not the case with every technique? ..

He inputs chakra into a space then manipulates the chakra causing it to warp/intangible,

But on the other hand ST can not be absorbed because it is the force of repulsion yet it still most likely is created similar to kamui (lol argument with myself) ..

ya i suppose your right ..
 

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..But is that not the case with every technique? ..

He inputs chakra into a space then manipulates the chakra causing it to warp/intangible,

But on the other hand ST can not be absorbed because it is the force of repulsion yet it still most likely is created similar to kamui (lol argument with myself) ..

ya i suppose your right ..

Actually that's not how it works. He spends chakra to activate the jutsu, and then the portal to Kamui land opens.

Also not all jutsu work like that. Fire ball jutsu for example is taking chakra and spitting it out of your mouth in the form of flames.
 

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Actually that's not how it works. He spends chakra to activate the jutsu, and then the portal to Kamui land opens.

Also not all jutsu work like that. Fire ball jutsu for example is taking chakra and spitting it out of your mouth in the form of flames.

But the flames are still created by the chakra, and then he uses that chakra to manipulate it into a ball (could be using the wrong word when i say manipulate) i mean your still losing chakra when you use the technique so its still being "Spent" so to speak
 

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But the flames are still created by the chakra, and then he uses that chakra to manipulate it into a ball (could be using the wrong word when i say manipulate) i mean your still losing chakra when you use the technique so its still being "Spent" so to speak

Of course its still being spent, but the difference is that with the fireball jutsu, the chakra becomes the fire. With Kamui, the chakra doesn't become the warp point.
 

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Of course its still being spent, but the difference is that with the fireball jutsu, the chakra becomes the fire. With Kamui, the chakra doesn't become the warp point.

Ahh true, although Couldnt it be like Kirin where there is only a little amount of chakra controlling the warp point?
 

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Ahh true, although Couldnt it be like Kirin where there is only a little amount of chakra controlling the warp point?

I don't think so. I doubt that there is any chakra at the warp point.
 
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