Re: Enough, Naruto never has and Never Will beat Nagato.
This what will happen again
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Hinata jumps in dies naruto rage with fox chakra because he already was then he starts to cry Nagato feel bad for him go.naruto wants revenge and ask kishi if he could get some more plot no justu he goes back to fight Nagato,Nagato kills himself. Naruto thanks kishi for the naruto style plot no justu!!!!!!
Re: Enough, Naruto never has and Never Will beat Nagato.
Preta path fails to absorb sage charka (turns him into a stone). Kurama knows how to deflect shinra tensei... but in the end you cannot compare them. They will most likely never fight again...
Preta path fails to absorb sage charka (turns him into a frog). Kurama knows how to deflect shinra tensei... but in the end you cannot compare them. They will most likely never fight again...
That's so irrelevant on Naruto's behalf. It was 3 v 1 with Kabutonub controlling Nagato. Only reason his vision was even blocked.
Dude, you dumb. I make a valid point and you ignore it. Since Naruto has no way of killing the dog he will not lose his shared visions. You are going in pointless circles, I cannot even call this a debate. More like a lecture.
Yea he does lose it nagato had many summons keep ing an eye on his enemies. You think one dog is sufficent for all the clones naruto can make. Are u that stupid. nagato's shared vision is almost useless when there is only one summon that can also be engaged in a fight.
I didnt say naruto destroyed the vshared vision in that fight did I. H e can use his summons plus 1 sm clone or km clone to take out most of nagato's summons is what i am saying.
And lets be Clear he has 11 km clones to aid him. so its not really 1v1. since naruto has many clones and summons to also aid him.
I see where you're coming from, but I have to disagree to an extent. Naruto will surpass Nagato, he is only 16. It all has to do with plot. This is a hard case though. I can't honestly tell who is better. I feel though Tobi is the most powerful person in the series. Even stronger than Edo Madara and Hashirama. Tobi is even more intelligent than most people. Still people will say that I'm wrong and since Naruto is main character, that he can defeat Tobi. But I know if it wasn't for plot, Tobi would have already completed his plot and Nagato might possibly still be alive. I respect everyone's opinions and yours also so +rep for a well detailed thread.
Gracias,however very few people actually read and are giving typical FB arguments "MY LORD NARUTO IS STWONGEST" . It just so happens that the ones who did +Repped me, I wonder why.
Re: Enough, Naruto never has and Never Will beat Nagato.
I thought this was obvious that currently Naruto wont be able to beat Nagato (excluding BM as we dont know much about it) and he actually defeated 5 paths.
But Naruto does has potential to beat Nagato:
1. If BM/KM is fused with SM it will make absorbing chakra from him fatal.
2. Four/Six tails mode indeed withstood Almighty Push.
3. If there are KM+SM clones around it would be a difficult fight for Nagato.
etc
As for immobilizing Naruto with Preta + Human path, did Naruto had clone support then? No.
I thought this was obvious that currently Naruto wont be able to beat Nagato (excluding BM as we dont know much about it) and he actually defeated 5 paths.
But Naruto does has potential to beat Nagato:
1. If BM/KM is fused with SM it will make absorbing chakra from him fatal.
2. Four/Six tails mode indeed withstood Almighty Push.
3. If there are KM+SM clones around it would be a difficult fight for Nagato.
etc
Do not bother posting if your not going to read. If you are a naruto Fanboy i strongly suggest you do read. If you are a hater, I suggest you take your business elsewhere.
So lately the Naruto bandwagon train has gotten out of control and I feel like I should slow it down with a serious speed bump. (I thought Uchiha fans were bad but this breed of narutards is on a whole nother level.)
The fact of the matter is, Indeed Naruto is strong, but he never has, and never will Beat Nagato. Here are some point's to support my statement.
1.Let's start back at the SM Naruto (and his summons) vs 6 Paths of Pain (handicapped)
Clearly you see it being stated the most powerful of the paths, Deva Path not being able to us his powers. (Hence why any path was taken out)
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In the end, once his powers returned look where Naruto is left off
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To Summarize, I hope you understand
The entire Fight pain had no intent to kill, but to capture.
Naruto would have been in that position since the start of the fight if Deva had his powers.
Pain says " I avoided any vital wounds" in other words he could have ended naruto's life right there if he wanted to, but of course plot requires the Akatsuki needing kurama.
2.Next, It took 8 Tails to get out of Celestiel Terra Blast and as Pain said, all he had to do was make a bigger one.
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Note: It may not seem like a valid point but we will get back to it further down this thread.
Yes I understand in the end he defeated pain, but only after every other path was gone (which they never would have if Deva had his powers from the start). Plus, it was Pain, NOT Nagato as he is still alive.
3. Now, on to the meeting. This has been one of the biggest trolls in Naruto history and is unforgivable. This is when Kishi went crazy. He creates the 3rd SO6P, a Mini God, Still one of the strongest Chars in Naruto today and he loses to WORDS? There is no denying plot no jutsu exists when one of the strongest characters just "disappears" because he had a conversation with a weaker opponent and felt SO BAD for destroying everything Naruto knew and loved, he gave up his life to bring everyone back.
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If your going to question whether Naruto could have defeated Nagato had they fought your wrong. Naruto had one more shot at SM which would not last him long enough to survive Nagato, he already lost 2 clones fighting 5 paths with Deva still alive and without his powers, he could not defeat Nagato who wields all their powers at once.
4. Now that we establish he defeated Pain (NOT Nagato) by plot, onto the war.
KM Naruto as well stands no Chance, while he showed some impressive feats such as surviving Bansho Tenin, He could do nothing to Nagato.
Exhibit A. he got caught by Asura path and was going to Die with the combo of Preta and Naraka Path.
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Exhibit B. Not only did he get caught, but continued failing by using his Rasengan despite having knowledge that Nagato could absorb it. Thus proving even if Naruto has some strenght to match Nagato, he has no brains whatsoever to keep up with him.
(P.S don't gimme that b.s that he was trying to see if Nagato was controlled, as in the next slide I show he was trapped for good, why would he put himself to be in a position he could not get out and die just to test if Nagato lost his personality?)
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Exhibit C. All this Time Itachi was free thanks to K.A, so this was all Nagato's doing. Not only did Naruto fail, but his not so smarter Teacher get's caught as well. (Honestly name anything they could have done to get out, they were getting their chakra sucked dry/ their souls)
(Another P.S that sm trick would not have worked since it was a summoning holding Naruto, and Preta path wouldbe used to just absorb attacks. Nagato was just sucking out his soul. Unlike Naruto he learns from his mistakes)
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Like I said, Killer Bee is of no use.
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Exhibit D. Oh look, as usual Itachi has to save them both. (Had it not been for Itachi, Naruto would have yet again died and the war would have been lossed)
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Exhibit E. Remember my CT point earlier? Here we see Naruto say " how it's on a whole nother level", meaning Nagato could have done this back in their previous fight.
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Once again, proving Naruto does not have the brains to defeat Nagato and looses his cool (as a shinobi never should). Meanwhile Itachi is solving every problem (the weakness, not needing to aim, etc)
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5. It is debatable whether current BM Naruto has the power to destroy CT by himself. Regardless he did not figure it out and showed no sign of ever figuring it out. Not to mention it was a1 v 3 for Nagato, as I said many times it would have been over a long time ago.
As for BM Naruto vs 100% Healthy Nagato.
One if it's Edo Nagato, he cannot win as he has no sealing techniques.
Preta Path cancels every attack Naruto has
The Summoning give him 100% vision to everything and can keep up with his speed
Shinra Tensei once again cancels everything, TBB or not.
Asura gives him advantage against multiple clones, with his arms and Missles to take out numerous Narutos
Naruto can do nothing against Human Path
He did not figure out how to stop CT and it would crush him.
I'd post pics On the last Part about BM but it's pretty self explanatory.
Arguments I will receive.
Yes preta path can infact absorb a TBB and all, it has never failed to absorb anything.
The Dog summoning will survive as Naruto has no way of gettng rid of them, so his 100% Vision will not go away.
Shinra tensei never failed to push anything
It's debatable whether he can stop CT even if he had info on it.
You may flame me, or somehow Change my mind (Although I doubt it) feel free to take this however you'd like.
also u keep forgetting that he will have to deal with multiple clones. and during an interval nagato can't use deva powers. so that argument makes no sense since i said during an interval naruto can use frog katas and take him out
poor arguments lol
naruto has counters to everything nagato has.
Ct is useless and naruto can break it with multiple frs or tbb
Shinra tensei can be blocked as done b4
asura path isnt too useful and can be broken by naruto
animal path ca be countered by naruto's own summons plus add an sm clone to help
Preta path can be beaten by frog katas. naruto simpy has to use an opening to hit nagato with frog katas and naruto can also use sm almost immediately
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during an interval this is easily possible. and lets not forget naruto's chakra pool is almost limitless as he has his own chakra+ kuruma's and sm gets its own chakra whereas nagato does not have that advantage. naruto has the advantage in battle due to the fact that he can use Sm and BM
Its because u said Naruto never wont be able to beat Nagato, when there are indication that Naruto will lead all the Biju one day. That is going to make a difference, especially if Naruto learns to fuse KM/BM and SM.
A close range UP is not gona be effective as it wont give Nagato time to react (BTW only Paths has Rods) and for long rangers six tails cld with stand AP. Plus KM mode has Chakara hands.
Naruto could never beat Nagato you say?? Lol, i must be reading a different manga, the one i read is called Naruto!!! He is the main character, but i guess there is another manga called Nagato, and a tv show called Nagato Shippuden.
Ct is useless and naruto can break it with multiple frs or tbb
Shinra tensei can be blocked as done b4
asura path isnt too useful and can be broken by naruto
animal path ca be countered by naruto's own summons plus add an sm clone to help
Preta path can be beaten by frog katas. naruto simpy has to use an opening to hit nagato with frog katas and naruto can also use sm almost immediately
Wrong, you did not even thouroghly read my thread did you?
Preta > All his Rasengan/TBB attacks
ST > His frog Kata
Universal Pull > on frogs, not naruto you fool.
Clearly Nagato summons > Naruto way to fail, they went up against Each other and they were getting raped by dog.
Stop being ignorant, frog genjutsu takes too long, your saying Nagato cant kill 2 frogs (when he raped every single summoning Naruto had)
You can stop wasting my time now, if this thread lives tomorrow I may play with you some more. You are exactly the Narutard I make a reference too.
Its because u said Naruto never wont be able to beat Nagato, when there are indication that Naruto will lead all the Biju one day. That is going to make a difference, especially if Naruto learns to fuse KM/BM and SM.
A close range UP is not gona be effective as it wont give Nagato time to react (BTW only Paths has Rods) and for long rangers six tails cld with stand AP. Plus KM mode has Chakara hands.
Re: Enough, Naruto never has and Never Will beat Nagato.
Most of these are all valid points +rep, but i would like to make an argument here. Im no naruto fan boy btw.
-firstly, if it were Edo Nagato, i dont think he can share his vision with his summoned dogs... or at least i havent seen it being mentioned anywhere so far.. also assuming the fact that he could, naruto would be able to keep all of them busy with clones and frog summons.. dat leaves naruto free to attack nagato from a blind spot
-secondly, i feel naruto is not, at all tyms, a complete dickhead that many blieves him to be.. at tyms he did use his head lyk in dat fight with the third raikage...
-thirdly, lyk many stated here, after naruto got KM, he cud turn nine tails any time he needed to..maybe he cud even reduce the more devastating effects of shinra tensei as for dat
-moreover, as kishi clearly showed, naruto KM TBB is 5 tyms stronger the usual TBB(if we consider the fact that his TBB was able to deflect dat of 5 odrs).. in dat case, maybe naruto myt be able to destroy Nagato's CT
bt all these are plain assumptions rilly, so um nt rilly sure either
