Nagato must have awakened his Rinnegan naturally

[Gryphus]

true it is an assumption and a mistake on my part but it further proves my point, one thing we can say is that the uchiha and senju where rivals nothings says they were related, but one thing is certain the uzumaki are related to the senju it says nothing about been relatyed to the uchiha so how could the uzumaki who has no relation to the uchiha posses the eyes of the sage ? it has been said that the senju descended from the younger son of the sage who inherited the sages body,then how come along their lineage someone suddenly develops the sage eyes ? (transplant: it has even been said in the manga) if nagato was part uzumaki and uchiha it would have been stated, if he had senju dna it would have been stated, but it wasn't. This proves nagato is purely uzumaki until proven otherwise by the manga. nothing in the manga suggests he unlocked it himself whereas it has been hinted and stated that he gained it through transplant.

Senju and Uchiha are related because both are the descendants of the younger and the older son of the so6p respectively, however the uzumaki were said to be related to senju, but nothing else was said about them, about the sage eyes you are right and I agree with you, we have to wait until everything is unveiled

 

[Sexy Steel]

what about naruto eh? for one the kyuubi was poisoning his chakra when he was bad so that could be one of the reasons.
2 yamato said his true power doesn't lie in the kyuubi
naruto hasn't experienced his parents death first hand and hasn't had a shock like nagato yet so he might awaken it now that he thinks the kages are dead
women might not be able to get the rinnegan and she might have had it and we just didn't see it or she got extracted and was to weak to use it or she could just carry the genes for the male to activate it
the senju clan are like the opposite of the uchicha clan so thats why they wouldn't show traits
uzumakis could have that trait and it could be that the knowledge was hidden as lots of knowledge in the manga are often hidden........and for one never ever trust obito or madara(well maybe madaraxd).

Senju are opposites of the uchiha and posses no trait of the uchiha, which shed light on the fact that uzumaki cannot posses uchiha traits because they are also opposites of the Uchiha seeing as the uzumaki got their traits from the senju.

 

[Sexy Steel]

Senju and Uchiha are related because both are the descendants of the younger and the older son of the so6p respectively, however the uzumaki were said to be related to senju, but nothing else was said about them, about the sage eyes you are right and I agree with you, we have to wait until everything is unveiled

fine we call a truce for now U_U but it's not likely that he unlocked it himself.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Sorry, Tobi states to Konan that Madara is the 2nd So6p and then Tobi states right after that Nagato is the 3rd So6p. This means That Madara got his Rinnegan before Nagato. What sense would it make that N=Tobi would go after Nagato's Rinnegan when he could have just simply used Madara's? It's because Nagato had Madara's Rinnegan. Thiss is manga facts but w/e you claim I'm a Uchia anboy but we can see whos the real fanboy. Its nothing wrong with borrowed power in this manga. Just ask Naruto and Sasuke. There is clearly a plot twist behind this.

Read what Madara says here. There is obviously something going on.

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No matter how you try dress it up its impossble for Nagato to have the Madaras eyes and Madara them as well at the same time unless Nagato awakened it

Obito was very shocked when Madara appeared in the coffin asking him where did you get that perhaps Madaras body is hidden and that Rinnei Tensei was supposed to revive Madara...and Madara would lose all of his power if his rinnegan was gone when he was revived

 

[Frikid]

umm wait for kishi to explain everything ?

don't jump to conclusions...

and madara giving nagato rinnegan is more logical.

also, madara says that nagato was supposed to revive him,
which means he gave nagato the rinnegan to take care of it and revive him at the right time :O !!

 

[Zato]

No matter how you try dress it up its impossble for Nagato to have the Madaras eyes and Madara them as well at the same time unless Nagato awakened it

Obito was very shocked when Madara appeared in the coffin asking him where did you get that perhaps Madaras body is hidden and that Rinnei Tensei was supposed to revive Madara...and Madara would lose all of his power if his rinnegan was gone when he was revived

A lot of plot holes are showing up in the manga. But what was stated was that A.Madara was the 2nd So6p, B.Madara gave Nagato the Rinnegan, C. Madara knows Nagato, D.Madara died after awakening the Rinnegan, E. Madara knows Tobi, F.Tobi is Obito, G.Madara rescued Obito.

Think about this for one second. If Madara was planning to be revived through Nagato then do you really think Madara was planning to be revived as a super old man just to die again of old age? He had to have died young because Edo Tensei revives you at the age you were when you died. Just like when Nagato was revived he was wrinkly with white hair due to him overusing his chakara. There is obviously a plot twist here.

 

[TrollingSage]

Tell me how ?

1. It is a FACT, that Rinnegan comes from evolving Sharingan witch is going beyond EMS limits, that's what we know.
2. Rinnegan is Uchiha dojutsu it is 100% same as awakening the Sharingan.
3. How can Uzumaki awaken the Dojutsu which belongs to the other clan? Not possible.
4. Did nagato had ordinary Sharingan ? - NO. Did he went beyond EMS limits ? - NO.
5. Madara was the only one who told he himself awakened Rinnegan.
6. Nagato used Gedo Mazo at a 16~ years age. HOW did he knew about it without anybody telling him / reading uchiha stone tablet ?
7. Madara gave him his eyes to revive him, he found Obito and entrusted his Reviving and whole plan to him.
8. Madara passed down Rinnegan alongside with all of it techniques.

READ both threads on my signature.

1. Wrong. Sharingan is a devolution of the rinnegan. The sharingan comes from the rinnegan not the other way round.
2. No it isnt. If it was more Uchiha would have it.
3. Recessive genes from the Sage of Six Paths is a possible explanation.
4.Did the sage have ordinary sharingan? No.

 

[10023213]

Senju are opposites of the uchiha and posses no trait of the uchiha, which shed light on the fact that uzumaki cannot posses uchiha traits because they are also opposites of the Uchiha seeing as the uzumaki got their traits from the senju.

for the last time they could be a mix or perfect combination of both

 

[10023213]

the thing is not even the older brother wasshown with the rinnegan

 

[Stark]

Lets just sit tight and wait.

 

[Zato]

the thing is not even the older brother wasshown with the rinnegan

That's because Tobi was telling a story. That wasn't a actual flash back. This is why the younger son had no logo on his headband. The story he told was a story that was told throughout the ninja world. But it was only believed to be a fairytale.

 

[10023213]

^^^still thnk nagato unlocked rinnegan naturally because he was not shown to be given any uchicha dna and there was no reason for kishi to hide it

 

[Sexy Steel]

for the last time they could be a mix or perfect combination of both

for the last time i have shown you a manga page saying the uzumaki are related to the senju syas nothing of Uchiha. Where is the manga page saying the Uzumaki are related to the uchiha ?

 

[Sexy Steel]

^^^still thnk nagato unlocked rinnegan naturally because he was not shown to be given any uchicha dna and there was no reason for kishi to hide it

yet tobi says he gave nagato the rennigan all evidence we have now of nagato gaining the rennigan fron the manga rest is assumptions on ur part

 

[Sexy Steel]

the thing is not even the older brother wasshown with the rinnegan

yeah cuz it wasn't transplanted unlike nagato's, he actually inherited it

 

[OnPoint]

If the Rinnegan truely is the extension of the Sharingan, saying Nagato awakened it naturally is like saying you can awaken the Mangekyou Sharingan without unlocking the 3 tomoe first. Why did Kishimoto choose to hide Nagato's eyes before revealing the dojutsu he possessed? Nagato couldn't even turn his Rinnegan

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after he died; a MAJOR trait of a transplanted eye. I don't see how much clearer it can be. The only issue here is the timeline, but even that has not been totally destroyed because 'shortly (before my death)' is a vague term.

 

[Zato]

^^^still thnk nagato unlocked rinnegan naturally because he was not shown to be given any uchicha dna and there was no reason for kishi to hide it

Lets just wait for the explanation.

 

[TrollingSage]

If the Rinnegan truely is the extension of the Sharingan, saying Nagato awakened it naturally is like saying you can awaken the Mangekyou Sharingan without unlocking the 3 tomoe first. Why did Kishimoto choose to hide Nagato's eyes before revealing the dojutsu he possessed? Nagato couldn't even turn his Rinnegan

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after he died; a MAJOR trait of a transplanted eye. I don't see how much clearer it can be. The only issue here is the timeline, but even that has not been totally destroyed because 'shortly (before my death)' is a vague term.

I think its the other way round buddy. Rinnegan is not an "extension" of the sharingan. The sharingan is a watered down version of the rinnegan. The rinnegan came before the sharingan.
Oh and if Nagato's eyes were transplanted why doesnt he have the other sharingan abilities.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

This.

THe Uchiha Clan seems to have kept the eyes of their deceased. Obito was in a room FULL OF SHARIGANS. I'm sure Madara had more eyes dude.

 

[10023213]

yet tobi says he gave nagato the rennigan all evidence we have now of nagato gaining the rennigan fron the manga rest is assumptions on ur part

tobi is a bitchass liar and a punk hiding behing a mask
just because the manga didn't specifically say it doesn't mean it's not true
plus don't believe everything the manga says* cough* *cough* kabuto saying hes the closest to he so6p *cough* *cough*