Nagato has mountain busting+ Shinra Tenseis?!

[TobisPawn]

I'm using Edo Nagato's feats. First off, initial Edo Nagato did have near-zero chakra. Don't give me that "Edo = infinite chakra" BS, Nagato clearly absorbed Bee's chakra, meaning that there's a cap for his chakra usage in one blow no matter what. And Mu clearly had to wait for his chakra to build up again. Now check this out:​

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Yup, Nagato really was a "god."​

 

[Kettei]

Okay?

Madara>Nagato
Naruto>Nagato
Obito>Nagato

And Maybe Itachi>Nagato

 

[Cursed Prince]

He's greater than KM in my opinion...

 

[TobisPawn]

Okay?

Madara>Nagato
Naruto>Nagato
Obito>Nagato

And Maybe Itachi>Nagato

Edo Madara, yes.
Naruto, not yet. Maybe.
Obito, yes.

Itachi, NOOOO.

 

[Invsblphntm]

Okay?

Madara>Nagato
Naruto>Nagato
Obito>Nagato

And Maybe Itachi>Nagato

Incorrect.

Nagato > Itachi
Nagato >= Naruto
Nagato > Alive EMS Madara

 

[~Dream~]

Good thread. This makes him a higher rank now.

 

[DWwolf85]

He's greater than KM in my opinion...

Same, +Rep for same ideals!

 

[lol99]

Wtf trees that are half the height of mountains?

The mountains are at a far away distance, how can you judge the height of trees and mountains, I can say Naruto is taller than mountains by looking at the pictures
where has kishi drawn trees that rival the height of mountains in this manga?

 

[TobisPawn]

Wtf trees that are half the height of mountains?

The mountains are at a far away distance, how can you judge the height of trees and mountains, I can say Naruto is taller than mountains by looking at the pictures
where has kishi drawn trees that rival the height of mountains in this manga?

Did you read the thread? Judging by the trees right next to the mountains, the average height of the trees in the forest are 1/3-1/2 the size of the mountains. This is further complimented by Naruto standing on a tree and having a clear view of the mountains and everything else. And look here:

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The trees are about half the height. You want me to go more in depth?

 

[arv993]

That is the extent of his regular shinra tensei in his full body. He doesnt have zero chakra lol he had a low amount maybe but not zero. No matter how low it was it doesnt make a difference for a simple shinra tensei. deva path produced the same regular shinra tensei when he was at the beginning of his fight against naruto as well as the end. his regular shinra tensei stayed the same. A regular shinra tensei doesnt take much chakra for nagato and relatively stays the same power whether he is low on chakra or has a lot of chakra

This a point where he had a lot more chakra before using it to fight a lot before fighting naruto and the destroying the village

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This is another regular shinra tensei when he was much lower on chakra

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still around the same power. Also like i said before one regular shinra tensei uses a very minor fraction of his chakra so having a lot more chakra won't make much of a difference unless we are talking about a chou shinra tensei which uses a lot more chakra and a lot more powerful

But what we saw is a simple shinra tensei it doesn't get any more powerful than that

 

[TobisPawn]

That is the extent of his regular shinra tensei in his full body. He doesnt have zero chakra lol he had a low amount maybe but not zero. No matter how low it was it doesnt make a difference for a simple shinra tensei. deva path produced the same regular shinra tensei when he was at the beginning of his fight against naruto as well as the end. his regular shinra tensei stayed the same. A regular shinra tensei doesnt take much chakra for nagato and relatively stays the same power whether he is low on chakra or has a lot of chakra

This a point where he had a lot more chakra before using it to fight a lot before fighting naruto and the destroying the village

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This is another regular shinra tensei when he was much lower on chakra

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still around the same power. Also like i said before one regular shinra tensei uses a very minor fraction of his chakra so having a lot more chakra won't make much of a difference unless we are talking about a chou shinra tensei which uses a lot more chakra and a lot more powerful

But what we saw is a simple shinra tensei it doesn't get any more powerful than that

It still stands that Edo Nagato's Shinra Tenseis are about the size of a mountain, even if what you say is true. And, actually I'm under a different impression, possibly. Edo Nagato's Shinra Tensei extremely big, and even Naruto admitted that it was stronger. Pain's didn't have the same destructive capacity, other than CST.

 

[arv993]

It still stands that Edo Nagato's Shinra Tenseis are about the size of a mountain, even if what you say is true.

did i argue with that lol i just said the regular shinra tensei is not getting any stronger than this. But those trees are not the size of the mountain. as u can see the mountain is further away from naruto thus looks smaller than usual. But sure it would tech would screw up a mountain but not destroy the whole thing. But chou shinra tensei like i said is a different story

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[TobisPawn]

did i argue with that lol i just said the regular shinra tensei is not getting any stronger than this. But those trees are not the size of the mountain. as u can see the mountain is further away from naruto thus looks smaller than usual. But sure it would tech would screw up a mountain but not destroy the whole thing. But chou shinra tensei like i said is a different story

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Haha, not arguing with you. :xd

The trees right next to the mountains are roughly 1/3-1/2 their size, and there's other panels depicting the same thing. Nagato's Shinra Tensei was roughly 2-4 times larger than those trees. They should be able to screw up a mountain just as much as Madara's Perfect Susanoo.

 

[arv993]

@tobispawn to ur edit

Obviously nagato is more destructive than pain no doubt about it but regular shinra tensei like i said takes almost no chakra for nagato so ur theory on him having more chakra meaning better regular shinra tensei is a little far fetched. But again CST is a different matter for that nagato puts in more chakra and more time to create that much power and nagato probably couldnt do that in his skinny form.

 

[TobisPawn]

@tobispawn to ur edit

Obviously nagato is more destructive than pain no doubt about it but regular shinra tensei like i said takes almost no chakra for nagato so ur theory on him having more chakra meaning better regular shinra tensei is a little far fetched. But again CST is a different matter for that nagato puts in more chakra and more time to create that much power and nagato probably couldnt do that in his skinny form.

Hmmm...if it does take almost no chakra, though, then shouldn't Nagato be capable of just pumping a lot into it? Maybe most of Pain's chakra when to actually transmitting and controlling, so his actual Shinra Tensei wasn't as strong.

 

[Icelerate]

I agree but Nagato won't be able to endlessly spam those attacks, but nonetheless, his arsenal is more haxed than the other high level ninjas in the manga (Naruto, Hashirama and EMS Madara). Fights aren't all about destructive power and Nagato has many different techniques such as summonings, preta path, asura path armour and weapons to put him on an extremely high level despite the fact he can't spam mountain busting shinra tenseis.

 

[arv993]

Haha, not arguing with you. :xd

The trees right next to the mountains are roughly 1/3-1/2 their size, and there's other panels depicting the same thing. Nagato's Shinra Tensei was roughly 2-4 times larger than those trees. They should be able to screw up a mountain just as much as Madara's Perfect Susanoo.

Madara's one slash is definitely more powerful dude u must be kidding me sure nagato's CST should be more destructive than one sword slash.But one regular ST= one swords slash is pushing it


also u gotta consider the distance naruto is very far from the mountain whereas those trees are close. What u r saying is nagato's shinra tensei is the same size as MAdara's PS as that is comparable to a mountain

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And one sword slash cut through the whole desert and the whole ground and sliced those mountains that is certainly more powerful than one simple shinra tensei from nagato

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[lol99]

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those trees are no where near the size of mountains, you can look up pics when it's itachi seals nagato, the trees aren't that much bigger than itachi, bee and Naruto. So you are saying Naruto and itachis height is comparable to mountains

Since you want to compare nagatos mountain busting capacity

Mokuton trees>normal trees

Perfect susanoo>>>>>mokuton trees

Mountains>Perfect susanoo

Either those mountains are nowhere near the trees or those are not mountains like the pic above

 

[arv993]

Hmmm...if it does take almost no chakra, though, then shouldn't Nagato be capable of just pumping a lot into it? Maybe most of Pain's chakra when to actually transmitting and controlling, so his actual Shinra Tensei wasn't as strong.

well thats sort of what made his paths weaker in the first place right. their techs werent as fast and powerful as his actual body. But its all speculation. I guess diff ppl see it differently. Nagato has a regular ST, CST, and he can even make smaller STs like when he deflected bee's sword. He can pump enough chakra then create CST but thats also not samrt if u think about as he wouldnt have unlimited chakra and his time limit would increase for the next time he can use shinra tensei.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

I agree a normal one through him destroys mountains and forests yet he is beaten by people like Hashirama and BM Naruto