Nagato Gedou Mazou control

[Midday]

Nagato doesn't have Uchiha DNA because those eyes don't possess the blood [

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]. Nagato didn't meet all the requirements (possessing the Rinnegan and having both Uchiha and Senju DNA), so his level of control was always going to be limited [

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]. Madara said that he could only summon the statue after awakening the Rinnegan [

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]; just having the blood did nothing. Obito never showed the ability to summon the statue prior to taking the Rinnegan - only Nagato did. Nagato is the only other person (Madara aside) who could summon the Mazou [

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] - because he was the only other person who had the Rinnegan. Gedou Mazou means 'Demonic Statue of the Outer Path', it's a summon exclusive to the Rinnegan's 7th path.

So, merely possessing the Rinnegan and one bloodline allows you to summon it but gives you limited control (Nagato). Having the required bloodlines but no Rinnegan gives you proper control but you cannot summon it (Pre-Rinnegan Obito). And possessing the Rinnegan with both bloodlines will give you mastery over the statue (War-arc Obito and Madara).

Every cell contains dna, having the eyes is enough to meet that requirement it doesn't need to be the blood.

 

[OnPoint]

Every cell contains dna, having the eyes is enough to meet that requirement it doesn't need to be the blood.

That doesn't seem to be the case with what Itachi has said. Also, there would have been no reason for Madara to mention those without Rikudou blood having a limited control over the statue if all 3 parties (Obito, Madara and Nagato) had Rikudou DNA. It seems like he was foreshadowing the predicament Nagato would soon find himself in - one of the trio lacked the two bloodlines. And if Nagato really did have all the requirements, then there would be no reason for Obito to have had a stronger binding with the stakes. He even had one less Rinnegan to boot. That would mean, in terms of binding strength to the Mazou;

Two Rinnegan + Uchiha DNA + Senju DNA < One Rinnegan + Uchiha DNA + Senju DNA, which clearly doesn't make sense.

 

[Midday]

That doesn't seem to be the case with what Itachi has said. Also, there would have been no reason for Madara to mention those without Rikudou blood having a limited control over the statue if all 3 parties (Obito, Madara and Nagato) had Rikudou DNA. It seems like he was foreshadowing the predicament Nagato would soon find himself in - one of the trio lacked the two bloodlines. And if Nagato really did have all the requirements, then there would be no reason for Obito to have had a stronger binding with the stakes. He even had one less Rinnegan to boot. That would mean, in terms of binding strength to the Mazou;

Two Rinnegan + Uchiha DNA + Senju DNA < One Rinnegan + Uchiha DNA + Senju DNA, which clearly doesn't make sense.

I might be a little slow right now, but I didn't see what you're trying to point out with the Itachi page. He told Kakashi he's not blood related and Uchiha are the true masters of the sharringan(not so much the case now as Kakashi's sharringan mastery is far above the vast majority of that clan), he said the bodys suitable which I found odd since Kakashi has low chakra and mentions blood again.

For the second sentence you're talking about this

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? That second bubble felt natural to me, he just mentioned that it's harder to control without what he said, letting Obito know why it's benefiting that he has both Uchiha and Senju power.

As for the stakes it's the technique, Madara did teach Obito the 6 paths technique's whilst Nagato was self taught which is a factor, Obito could have learned from Nagato's paths and then improved on it, it doesn't need to be because of bloodlines. So far Obito having one rinnegan doesn't seem to mean that he's worse off than having two, although he hasn't really shown techniques, it's implied he can use all the 6 path techniques.

 

[OnPoint]

I might be a little slow right now, but I didn't see what you're trying to point out with the Itachi page. He told Kakashi he's not blood related and Uchiha are the true masters of the sharringan(not so much the case now as Kakashi's sharringan mastery is far above the vast majority of that clan), he said the bodys suitable which I found odd since Kakashi has low chakra and mentions blood again.

Itachi said plain and simple that the transplanted eye didn't contain any of the Uchiha's blood. So Nagato possessing Madara's eyes wouldn't grant him the bloodline he was lacking.

For the second sentence you're talking about this

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? That second bubble felt natural to me, he just mentioned that it's harder to control without what he said, letting Obito know why it's benefiting that he has both Uchiha and Senju power.

Ok, but why would he, or even, why would Kishimoto add a piece of irrelevant information like that? Seems to fit too well to be simply coincidental. And he let Obito know that he was benefiting by telling him that he would be able to control the Mazou even without the Rinnegan.

As for the stakes it's the technique, Madara did teach Obito the 6 paths technique's whilst Nagato was self taught which is a factor, Obito could have learned from Nagato's paths and then improved on it, it doesn't need to be because of bloodlines. So far Obito having one rinnegan doesn't seem to mean that he's worse off than having two, although he hasn't really shown techniques, it's implied he can use all the 6 path techniques.

The Outer Path allows you to use the technique, but I don't see how actual binding itself can be strengthened per say. It's like saying you can make the Animal or Human Paths stronger. They have a set skill which can't really be made stronger through simple training. And Gedou is actually based upon transmitting chakra, so the only other explanation would be that Obito's chakra is stronger, but it just makes far more sense to conclude that it is because he possesses both Senju and Uchiha blood, especially in wake of how both Obito and Madara have gone about controlling the Mazou in the form of the Juubi.

 

[VongolaX]

Nagato can't control the mazo as well as obito. Obito can tell it to attack, stop etc. It seemed like nagato was some sort of host for the gedo and looks what happen after nagato controls it, he becomes crippled.

I think it's due to nagato's minimal uchiha dna maybe? He only has eyes it isn't that much uchiha dna.

Madara told obito straight up, "even if you don't awaken the rinnegan you can still control the mazo" this was because half of obito's body was senju dna and half was uchiha, or something like that

^^ basically this, nagato nearly lost his life to that statue. Also considering the fact the more beast the harder it is to control it
obito had a far better control.

 

[UchihaInza]

Nagato has more control and is more comfertable with his rinnegan then obito or madara i think xd Uchiha Inza