Nagato cannot use Gedo Mazo in Battle

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LOL.
Nagato can do what Tobi could do, he just didn't have all those Tailed beasts at the time.
You must think of everything that could happen before jumping to conclusions.
You gave Tobi the Tailed Beasts. You didn't give Nagato that advantage.
If Tobi didn't have the Tailed Beasts, he'd be a Walking Skeleton too.
Good Game.
How do you know that?
 

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Why cant he use it the same way that Tobi does? HE was the one who sealed the beasts inside it, so naturally he should be able to use it using the beasts' chakra, just like Tobi. End thread.
 

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Why cant he use it the same way that Tobi does? HE was the one who sealed the beasts inside it, so naturally he should be able to use it using the beasts' chakra, just like Tobi. End thread.

Basically, this.

Nagato was still alive while 7 tailed beasts were inside Gedo Mazo correct? So it shouldn't need his chakra to function.
 
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Using gedo mazo in battle is different from syncing with it. He syncs with it to seal bijuu/dragon seal and tobi's gedo mazo doesn't use any rinne jutsu(dragon seal), just tailed beast chakra. And secondly, nagato didn't remove the rods from his back cos it would be pointless since he would have to sync again to seal 8 nd 9tails, meaning more rods will be impaled again.
 

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Why cant he use it the same way that Tobi does? HE was the one who sealed the beasts inside it, so naturally he should be able to use it using the beasts' chakra, just like Tobi. End thread.

It's as simple as this.
 

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Basically, this.

Nagato was still alive while 7 tailed beasts were inside Gedo Mazo correct? So it shouldn't need his chakra to function.
It's tobi who wields the gedo mazo with the 7 beasts. Nagato wields an empty gedo mazo. We can't say that nagato also wields this along with the 7 tailed beasts when he doesnt, understand?
 

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It's tobi who wields the gedo mazo with the 7 beasts. Nagato wields an empty gedo mazo. We can't say that nagato also wields this along with the 7 tailed beasts when he doesnt, understand?

WTF?? Nagato sealed them in there. He can use their chakra instead of his rods. How are people not getting this?? We've never seen Nagato use Gedo Mazo after sealing the beasts in. Since Gedo Mazo is originally Nagato's personal summon, Im sure he has more control over it than Tobi.
 

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Ive been lurking through the recent vs threads which is basically about hashirama vs nagato (this is not a thread to discuss that btw) and i keep on seeing people throwing ninjutsu's around with out them fully knowing how a technique works.

Nagato's way of using gedo mazo is very different from tobi's way. To put it simple, nagato cannot use gezo mazo the same way as tobi.

In nagato's case in order to use gedo mazo, black rod's or should i say chakra receivers impale his back. The reason for this is so that, gedo mazo can function with nagato's chakra through the chakra receivers;

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Gedo mazo is the same as the paths to an extent. Both need nagato's chakra to function/to come alive and that is what the chakra receivers are for;
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So if you state that nagato can use gedo mazo you must accept the fact that the chakra transmitters will impale him in his back.

Tobi however, the reason why gedo mazo doesnt impale him is because that gedo mazo has the tailed beasts (shukaku only now because of the paths) sealed in it. The tailed beasts are masses of chakra and that is what provides tobi's gedo mazo to work without it needing to impale him;

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Do you note that gedo mazo was summon by nagato, tobi wasn't the original summoner. I hope you understand what i am intend to say. I simply mean that gedo mazo never disappear when nagato die, which mean tobi is still using the one nagato summon.. Note, is not that nagato cant use gedo mazo as tobi, it all depend on the situation and moreover everyone had there own tactics..
 

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WTF?? Nagato sealed them in there. He can use their chakra instead of his rods. How are people not getting this?? We've never seen Nagato use Gedo Mazo after sealing the beasts in. Since Gedo Mazo is originally Nagato's personal summon, Im sure he has more control over it than Tobi.
Who says Gedo mazo is Nagato's summon? In my view, it looks like Tobi can use it much better than Nagato did.

Show me where he used Gedo mazo with tailed beast inside, as well where he sealed them all, because I can't remember that. I think you read wrong manga
 

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Nagato can use GEDO MEZO without sync in battle only for chakraless physical attacks.
But to use any type of chakra attacks, Nagato has to sync with it.
 
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Think you read the title and just posted. I know he can use it in battle what im saying is that there are draw backs to him using it in battle.

Secondly he used a fuinjutsu's to seal the gaara's shukaku. In that case it didnt need to sync with it because he wasnt directly using it. like he can summon it, and in that case nothing happens, but when he then uses it battle he has to sync.

Actually you guys forgot that Nagato was connected with it since the first time the chakra receives went into his back. Nagato was using Yahiko's body during the sealing of the bijuus so Nagato was infact still connected to it. You see the chakra receivers in his back when Naruto confronts him. So Nagato is always synced to it.

Another possibility could be that Nagato had the "Sage's body" but not the DNA to suit the eyes just like Kakashi getting physically weaken from using his MS. It takes the toll on the body. Tobi has both Uchiha and Senju DNA to help him.
 
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But the tailed beasts don't belong to Nagatos power.
Why can't Hashirama use the tailed beasts in fights instead of Nagato? He collected them too.
 

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But the tailed beasts don't belong to Nagatos power.
Why can't Hashirama use the tailed beasts in fights instead of Nagato? He collected them too.
Why do you go off topic and say Hashirama? For your facts; Hashirama can use bijuus, and Nagato can't.
 

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He can use Gedo Mazo on different ways. Since the Gedo Mazo possesses the Bijus, he can use them as well.
 

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He can use Gedo Mazo on different ways. Since the Gedo Mazo possesses the Bijus, he can use them as well.
Maybe you should read? ''It's tobi who wields the gedo mazo with the 7 beasts. Nagato wields an empty gedo mazo. We can't say that nagato also wields this along with the 7 tailed beasts when he doesnt, understand?''

You can't say Nagato should use and control the statue with tailed beast inside when he can't; that's Tobi's power
 

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Maybe you should read? ''It's tobi who wields the gedo mazo with the 7 beasts. Nagato wields an empty gedo mazo. We can't say that nagato also wields this along with the 7 tailed beasts when he doesnt, understand?''

You can't say Nagato should use and control the statue with tailed beast inside when he can't; that's Tobi's power

Well right before Nagato died he was the wielder of the gedo statue with 7 tailed beast sealed in it. You actually could say it because we see him use it in every akatsuki sealing ritual.
 

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He can use the Gedo Mazo since he obtained the Rinnegan. There is no reason to believe that Nagato could not use the Gedo Mazo as well, the Bijus are not more than Chakra banned in Gedo Mazo. And since the Gedo Mazo is a summoning of Nagato, he can use it as well. Don't see what the difference between Tobi and Nagato in their Rinnegan usage is.
 
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