Nagato and Rinnegan Madara vs Obito and Hashirama

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  • Nagato/Madara

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Oh no. Don't get me wrong, he's a strategist. (contradicted myself.) But Obito is more of a strategist than him.
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Well that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. However, manga has displayed more from Nagato. But Obito isn't finished yet. We still await how he was able to escape renne tensi and become the 10 tails jin. That might ultimately decide.
 
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Jukain said:
That's such a biased statement with no proof to back it up. It's merely your biased opinion.
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No it's not.

Obito manipulated Nagato into capturing all the jins for him, and he was technically the leader of Akatsuki who told Nagato what to do. In the Pain vs Naruto fight, Nagato was more offensive and reckless than he was defensive and strategic. Obito on the other hand, wouldn't get that reckless and offensive. His fighting style is in fact, more defensive than Nagato's.

If Obito wasn't smarter than Nagato, why did he boss him around? lol.
 
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Jukain said:
Umm no cause the tailed beasts are not obitos power that's why. That's why they are not here. Not obitos power simple as that. If we put in the beasts then it wouldn't be fair, cause obito can control them, Madara can control them and Nagato can control them, and who would summon the gedou? All 3 of them can so it would be stupid.

No it said Rinnegan and susanoo combined brought them down, and the only thing that makes sense is bansho tenin. So it was not susanoo alone it was both susanoo and Rinnegan. And no you can't even give a reason why Obito without the beasts can beat Nagato. Nagato>Obito

Yes Obito fought all of them but guess what he couldn't harm them either! Notice Obito has to be tangible to attack and when he turns tangible he is vulnerable to attack. If you reread the fight, kakashi, guy and BM naruto were just fine, it was more of a stalemate until kakashi figured out how to hit him.
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I can give you more than one... 5sec intervals Got in and out of Jinton b4 5kages eyes=Kamui is Fast

Also Obito Firestyle jutsu was the size of a bijuu Nagato would have no choice but to try and absorb it Obito comes behide him and warp...
 
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I can give you more than one... 5sec intervals Got in and out of Jinton b4 5kages eyes=Kamui is Fast

Also Obito Firestyle jutsu was the size of a bijuu Nagato would have no choice but to try and absorb it Obito comes behide him and warp...
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Wrong. You forget Nagato can use multiple paths at once.
 
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This guy really thinks Nagato trumps Obito
 

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Hashirama>
Madara>Obito>Nagato

Guess who takes it
 
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Misconception said:
I can give you more than one... 5sec intervals Got in and out of Jinton b4 5kages eyes=Kamui is Fast

Also Obito Firestyle jutsu was the size of a bijuu Nagato would have no choice but to try and absorb it Obito comes behide him and warp...
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I agree it is fast and I'm not saying its not, I'm just saying I doubt Obito can warp Nagato cause shinra tensei will stop him. So it wouldn't work. And the fire style will be absorbed and he can stop Obito at the same time cause he can use the paths simultaneously. Honestly we are going to both go back and forth with counters dude you have your opinion and I have mine lol
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No it's not.

Obito manipulated Nagato into capturing all the jins for him, and he was technically the leader of Akatsuki who told Nagato what to do. In the Pain vs Naruto fight, Nagato was more offensive and reckless than he was defensive and strategic. Obito on the other hand, wouldn't get that reckless and offensive. His fighting style is in fact, more defensive than Nagato's.

If Obito wasn't smarter than Nagato, why did he boss him around? lol.
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Nagato caught the beasts because he thought the moons eye plan would be best, he did not do it cause he was afraid of Obito lmao wow what a retarded statement. Obito did not boss him around he was merely leading cause he had Madara knowledge and that's it.
And Nagato was not reckless he did what he had to cause deva was powerless for the most part of the fight.
 
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One other detail I should mention. Since there would be two preta paths on the battlefield at once, Nagato and Madara would virtually be edo, because they could absorb all ninjutsu attacks and benefit from them and revive each other with king of hell. Hashi and Obito would have to be very selective with their attacks. Limiting the chances at victory all the more.
 
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SubtleMind said:
We don't know what Nagato's intervals are since Naruto stated that his attacks were on another level then before.
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In destructive capabilities that has nothing to do with his intervals...
 
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Bijuu13 said:
Why would I waste time lol. It's just your opinion
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Your comment seemed to to imply that I'm crazy to think Nagato>Obito. That's why lol but yeah it is my opinion I respect it if you don't want to argue against it.
 
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Jukain said:
I agree it is fast and I'm not saying its not, I'm just saying I doubt Obito can warp Nagato cause shinra tensei will stop him. So it wouldn't work. And the fire style will be absorbed and he can stop Obito at the same time cause he can use the paths simultaneously. Honestly we are going to both go back and forth with counters dude you have your opinion and I have mine lol

Nagato caught the beasts because he thought the moons eye plan would be best, he did not do it cause he was afraid of Obito lmao wow what a retarded statement. Obito did not boss him around he was merely leading cause he had Madara knowledge and that's it.
And Nagato was not reckless he did what he had to cause deva was powerless for the most part of the fight.
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Did I ever say Nagato was afraid of Obito? No.

I'm surprised you even think Nagato trumps Obito. You asked this question on a thread and then when you get an answer that you're not satisfied with, you argue.

Just freaking rename this thread Nagato and Mada>Obito and Hashi.
 
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Did I ever say Nagato was afraid of Obito? No.

I'm surprised you even think Nagato trumps Obito. You asked this question on a thread and then when you get an answer that you're not satisfied with, you argue.

Just freaking rename this thread Nagato and Mada>Obito and Hashi.
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Obviously I hav my opinion like everyone else has there opinion. I created this thread to debated with people obviously.
And I do not ink Nagato trumps Obito but I believe Obito would lose without the beasts. And you implied it by saying why did Obito boss around Nagato when he clearly did not.
 
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