Nagato and Pain vs Naruto

[VongolaX]

@Draphsin and @VariaBossX, I have a question to you both, do you think that Naruto will be more powerful than any version of Obito after his next power-up or will he be forever inferior to him in your eyes

Depends on what he gets...

Everytime Naruto gets stronger, the top three (Obito, Madara, and Hashirama) always stay 3-4 steps ahead of him.

It's part of the reason why they are my favorites.

 

[PlasticAngelx]

Pain and Nagato win scenario 1.
Naruto wins scenario 2.

 

[Silver Wolf]

Depends on what he gets...

Everytime Naruto gets stronger, the top three (Obito, Madara, and Hashirama) always stay 3-4 steps ahead of him.

It's part of the reason why they are my favorites.

So you think that he will still be weaker than them even by the end of the series. Some people think he will be stronger than Hshi and Maddy but steal weaker than Obito. Well I have another question your 3 faves can you list the order of power, without the juubi of course.
I think it's:
1-Madara
2-Hashirama
3-Obito

 

[Draphsin]

So you think that he will still be weaker than them even by the end of the series. Some people think he will be stronger than Hshi and Maddy but steal weaker than Obito. Well I have another question your 3 faves can you list the order of power, without the juubi of course.
I think it's:
1-Madara
2-Hashirama
3-Obito

In all honestly obito beats hashirama due to his lack of info on kamui, rinnegan madara can beat him though due to having superior reflexes & sensory abilities.

 

[VongolaX]

So you think that he will still be weaker than them even by the end of the series. Some people think he will be stronger than Hshi and Maddy but steal weaker than Obito. Well I have another question your 3 faves can you list the order of power, without the juubi of course.
I think it's:
1-Madara
2-Hashirama
3-Obito

Like I posted, it depends on what they get.

Kishi foreshadowed something huge for Sasuke and Naruto.

So, eventually they will surpass them.

My list of top 3 mainly revolves around Obito and Madara fighting for #1
While Hashirama will be at #3 (Madara/Obito have uchiha and senju powers)

Slowly as the series unravel, my list has been closer to in terms of accuracy.

Before Madara's power up it was this:

1. Obito
2. Madara
3. Hashirama
4. Naruto
5. Sasuke
6. Minato
7. Tobirama
8. DSM kabuto with Edo tensei
9. Orochimaru with Edo tensei
10. Hiruzen via hype or Itachi

 

[Silver Wolf]

Thanks for your replies Draphsin VariaBossX, though I don't agree with you but I respect your opinions and think they have very good basis, in my opinion you along with klad are the most reasonable Obito fanboys. Though I still don't understand why you'd put Obito above Rinnegan Madara

 

[Draphsin]

Thanks for your replies Draphsin VariaBossX, though I don't agree with you but I respect your opinions and think they have very good basis, in my opinion you along with klad are the most reasonable Obito fanboys. Though I still don't understand why you'd put Obito above Rinnegan Madara

Lol thanks, & Imo rinnegan madara can defeat obito. I'm pretty sure limbo is a move that can deal with kamui.

 

[VongolaX]

It goes either way,but Obito has the rinnegan too.

So the battle would be between Yin-yang release and Uchihs powers.

Since both Madara and Obito don't like to show full use of the rinnegan.

Anyway, I respect your opinion...

I look at things in a different side of view, battle style and morality.

 

[ARGUS]

1. Obito
2. Madara
3. Hashirama
4. Naruto
5. Sasuke
6. Minato
7. Tobirama
8. DSM kabuto with Edo tensei
9. Orochimaru with Edo tensei
10. Hiruzen via hype or Itachi

How low are kabuto and orochimaru even with Edo tensei
Orochimaru with hokages and kabuto with army are much stronger than most ppl above them
Where is nagato in your list?? Seeing as how he managed to nearly kill kcm naruto and bee while being immobile he is atleast top 10
Madara is also stronger than obito

 

[schmeckie]

Variaboss just showed you a limit to preta even though I never even mentioned that it had a limit.

You need to tell me how nagato plans on stopping a bijuudama from detonating, if he uses preta then he gets hit by the 2nd bijuudama, simple.

Just because hashi can catch a tbb doesn't mean that nagato can, stop giving preta unlimited potential when we've seen it lose to hashirama's chakra absorption/suppression.

As I said bijuudamas kill nagato no questions asked.

ok I agree with you, my counter would be gedo mazo who nagato had 7 tailed beasts inside. I think this would be enough to tank 50% kurama power, not 100% though.

 

[Draphsin]

ok I agree with you, my counter would be gedo mazo who nagato had 7 tailed beasts inside. I think this would be enough to tank 50% kurama power, not 100% though.

I don't see how the gedo can protect nagato from a bijuudama.

 

[genii96]

Nagato wins