[Discussion] Nagato and Madara

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We all know that Nagato thought he awoke his Rinnegan when he's parents died, so it seems that Nagato is not aware that Madara gave him the rinnegan.

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This is during the second ninja war, around about the same time when Obito got crushed by the boulders.
Therefore, we can assume that Nagato attained the Rinnegan through Madara when he was an infant or at least very young. I am going to predict that Nagato did not actually know that Madara awoke his rinnegan. The reason i say this is because we all know that Nagato was an honest and genuine boy who struggled with his powers. He was trained and had a strong relationship with Jiraya. therefore, i find it hard to believe that if Nagato was aware of what Madara did, and he wouldn't tell Jiraya of this. Nagato may have thought that Tobi was Madara, but I don't think he was aware that Madara gave him the rinnegan. If Madara did 'give' nagato the rinnegan, he must have awoke it through means other than eye transplation. This is because when Madara saved Obito he still had his eyes.

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However, Obito posing as Madara said that he encouraged Yahiko to found Akatsuki. This could be used as evidence that Nagato did know that Madara gave him the rinnegan, seeing as Yahiko must also have also known Madara.

So, I guess the question is did Nagato and Yahio know Madara? When did Madara give Nagato the rinnegan? and how did Madara awake Nagato's rinnegan?

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This will all be answered by kishi soon, so lets wait shall we.
 
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If Madara did give Nagato the rinnegan when he was young, how did he know that this kid would lose his parents and his best friend. Its a hell of a prediction from Madara lol.
 

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If Obito was just following orders maybe it was Obito that gave him the eye's after Madara had died. My question is why was he chosen over everyone else?
 
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If Obito was just following orders maybe it was Obito that gave him the eye's after Madara had died. My question is why was he chosen over everyone else?

Im assuming that Madara must have given Nagato the rinnegan before Obito was saved. I say this because Nagato looks much younger than Obito when he uses the rinnegan for the first time.
 

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We all know that Nagato thought he awoke his Rinnegan when he's parents died, so it seems that Nagato is not aware that Madara gave him the rinnegan.

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This is during the second ninja war, around about the same time when Obito got crushed by the boulders.
Therefore, we can assume that Nagato attained the Rinnegan through Madara when he was an infant or at least very young. I am going to predict that Nagato did not actually know that Madara awoke his rinnegan. The reason i say this is because we all know that Nagato was an honest and genuine boy who struggled with his powers. He was trained and had a strong relationship with Jiraya. therefore, i find it hard to believe that if Nagato was aware of what Madara did, and he wouldn't tell Jiraya of this. Nagato may have thought that Tobi was Madara, but I don't think he was aware that Madara gave him the rinnegan. If Madara did 'give' nagato the rinnegan, he must have awoke it through means other than eye transplation. This is because when Madara saved Obito he still had his eyes.

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However, Obito posing as Madara said that he encouraged Yahiko to found Akatsuki. This could be used as evidence that Nagato did know that Madara gave him the rinnegan, seeing as Yahiko must also have also known Madara.

So, I guess the question is did Nagato and Yahio know Madara? When did Madara give Nagato the rinnegan? and how did Madara awake Nagato's rinnegan?

Thoughts?
Dude Obito supposedly died during the THIRD NINJA WAR not the second. So nagato already had rinnegan before obito was born.
 
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