Nagato and hiruzen is over-rated

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I'M NOT SAYING THEY ARE WEAK. THEY ARE IN FACT VERY VERY VERY STRONG.
but i think people on nb over-rate them too much. nagato and hiruzen solo non-edo rinnegan madara ? lol. hiruzen did not win against 1st and 2nd, he just sealed them. in fact if a very weak ninja knows death god sealing whatever jutsu, and if he seals the 1st and 2nd by using simple shadow clones do u treat him stronger than the 1st and 2nd ? again nagato is stronger than hiruzen but he cannot beat madara. i myself think nagato is stronger than itachi even though i am itachi fan.

do not flame me. if u dont like , dont comment harsh statements

ok, i agree that nagato is strong and his rating is somewhat justified.but still he cannot beat madara.
 
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Nagato is not overrated :) He is strong.
But I agree, Hiruzen is very overrated.
 

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Hiruzen yes, i'm glad that useless old fart is dead. Nagato no, he has Rinnegan I mean c'mon. His techs are so haxed. There is a reason why Jiraya thought he was so6p reborn.
 

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Madara and Tobi are probably the only people in the manga Nagato can't beat imo.

Nagato is a prodigy and is extremely powerful. Combine all of his techniques and you won't have to give him much time to end any fight.

Don't make this thread and compare him to the strongest character in the manga and say his overrated.
 

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agree U_U however

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you are about to be raped by nagato fans and pseudo-hiruzen fans
 

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Nagato can go toe to toe with Edo Madara. You saw how powerful he was against bee and Naruto.

IDK about Hiruzen though...
 

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I agree Sarutobi is but, how dare u say Nagato the one who leveled Konoha
 

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yes they are one of the most overrated people on the base. people say that they can beat hashirama and madara and im actually think that they are serious. you would think that people are trolling if they are saying nagato or hiruzen> hashirama or madara.
 

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Hiruzen yes.
Nagato, not so much.

But if anyone is saying nagato can beat edo Madara just ignore them, they are either
trolling or stupid.

but still Nagato is still ridiculously hax and can go toe to toe with edo Madara(just not win)
 

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Hiruzen yes, i'm glad that useless old fart is dead. Nagato no, he has Rinnegan I mean c'mon. His techs are so haxed. There is a reason why Jiraya thought he was so6p reborn.

El Batman that is harsh. I don't. Calling hizuren a useless fart is very harsh. He saved the village from Oro and the 1st and 2nd hokage. Plus whatever ninja Oro had in his pocket to bring back. Stole Oro arms. Massive legacy
 

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Tobi and Edo Madara are the only person that Nagato can't beat.
 

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Hiruzen is extremely overrated but nagato is sometimes underrated
And being an itachi fan myself. IMO I actually dont think nagato can beat itachi
 

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No.. Actually Nagato is actually OP, however a "Prime" Hiruzen would be interesting to see.
 

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The only reason many claim that Hurizen, the Third Hokage, is overrated is because the title given him by Kishi, "God of Shinobi;" and the fact that he defeated Hashirama, The First Hokage, and Tobimaru, the Second Hokage, who were Edo Tensei. Their is no hype, but facts from the Manga and data book to support those claims. Nagato is overrated because Itachi and Madara (or Tobi) feats does not surpass the "Hype" of the Rinnegan, which is a fragment of the Sage. Nagato only possess the Rinnegan which give others such as Madara/Tobi, a wide advantage because they possess more (E.g. Uchiha and Hashirama DNA).
 
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Hiruzen > Hashirama
Nagato > Hashirama

Nagato > EMS Madara
 

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How is Hiruzen overrated? He is being underrated in this very thread.

I hate to say it, but he was said to be the strongest Hokage and had 5's in every place in the Databook not hindered by age. He was called a god of shinobi, Jesse Christian guys.

Don't even get me started on Nagato though. So underrated sometimes.
 

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Nagato is not overrated but Hiruzen is, in an unbelievable way
 

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Both are overrated yeah. Pain ALMOST got destroyed by SM Naruto only and people think that he could win vs 5 kages. Hiruzen is overrated and maybe the weakest hokage.
 
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