Myth Busting; Myth #2: Minato had KCM while alive

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Lets further put the myth to shame, by showing how it was used with the RDS

Minato himself says hes gonna use the RDS on himself.

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He then uses the RDS:

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The arm of the RDS extends to grab the nine-tails:
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He then pulls it inside of himself:
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The demon then combines their souls together..:
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In the end Minato does not have any mastery over it what so ever.. nor is he able to perform KCM.

Hence why Minato was already able to access the chakra of kurama, without releasing any seal and etc.
 

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He does not have KCM while alive.
 

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But a fist doesn't stay in your stomach after getting punched. The nine tails chakra does. Of course there's a tension, all body seals come with tensions... but that chakra wasn't going anywhere, it was permanent.

Well the point of my example is that the tension he received after he absorbed the chakra was only going to be permanent. It was never suggested that his body would stay numb forever or stay paralyzed. It was only for that point in time because his body just absorbed a lot of chakra in a very short amount of time and on top of that, he was already exhausted. If he had recovered, if he didn't die from shiki fujin (hypothetically), he could have been able to move.
 

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While highly unlikely, anything is possible in this inconsistent manga as Naruto so whether he gained it alive or not, only time will tell if Kishi even dares explaining that's it. Does it even matter anyway? He still died to achieve it
 

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Well the point of my example is that the tension he received after he absorbed the chakra was only going to be permanent. It was never suggested that his body would stay numb forever or stay paralyzed. It was only for that point in time because his body just absorbed a lot of chakra in a very short amount of time and on top of that, he was already exhausted. If he had recovered, if he didn't die from shiki fujin (hypothetically), he could have been able to move.
He was going to die in less than 5 minutes.. O_o. He wasn't healthy enough to pull up that chakra of Kurama.
 

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He was going to die in less than 5 minutes.. O_o. He wasn't healthy enough to pull up that chakra of Kurama.

I'm speaking hypothetically. It's obvious that he was going to die within moments. I'm just speaking on what could have happened if shiki fujin didn't kill him (somehow) and/or if he didn't get stabbed by the kyuubi.
 
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I'm speaking hypothetically.

He would've needed to use the 8-trigram seal in the hypothetical situation where he is alive. And in the Situation he wouldn't have been able to handle Kurama's chakra....

Though I do get what you are trying to say, i'm simply saying its impossible for him to get it while being alive.

The only way it was possible for him is being a dead zombie.
 
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He would've needed to use the 8-trigram seal in the hypothetical situation where he is alive. And in the Situation he wouldn't have been able to handle Kurama's chakra....

Though I do get what you are trying to say, i'm simply saying its impossible for him to get it while being alive.

The only way it was disposable for him is being a dead zombie.

Oh well in that context, that makes perfect sense.
 

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I thought this was obvious
 

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I'm boggled in all honesty. O_O I understand the approach of some, but if I cannot see a scan of him having the actual mode in effect, while alive of course...then I don't accept him having it. I agree if you are saying he doesn't have it.
 
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It's debatable if he had Kcm (I believe he did), but he did not have Bm.
 
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