[Discussion] Mystic Gohan vs Janemba

[USSJ Future Trunks]

janemba yelled and there was an aura around him. that doesnt mean he suddenly jumped a hundred times in power. or jumped at all. vegeta has flared his ssj aura and not gotten any massive powerup. it was to show janemba was angry.
dbz wikia is bullshit, relies on english dub and game material rather than proper manga translations.
janemba fought weaker heroes than hirudegarn did. a good way to tell which movie villain is stronger is look at who they are fighting if you cant already tell by the movie order. in fact the only villain out of sequence is bio broly whos the only one weaker than the one that came before him. hirudegarn trashed gohan without breaking a sweat in his first form. i dont even want to know how badly hed kill the manga goku in second form.
janemba on the other hand was taking damage from goku and ssj2 vegeta in his second form. why, if he wasnt serious, would he become that form anyway? its like freeza using final form on raditz

 

[Uisu]

janemba yelled and there was an aura around him. that doesnt mean he suddenly jumped a hundred times in power. or jumped at all. vegeta has flared his ssj aura and not gotten any massive powerup. it was to show janemba was angry.
dbz wikia is bullshit, relies on english dub and game material rather than proper manga translations.
janemba fought weaker heroes than hirudegarn did. a good way to tell which movie villain is stronger is look at who they are fighting if you cant already tell by the movie order. in fact the only villain out of sequence is bio broly whos the only one weaker than the one that came before him. hirudegarn trashed gohan without breaking a sweat in his first form. i dont even want to know how badly hed kill the manga goku in second form.
janemba on the other hand was taking damage from goku and ssj2 vegeta in his second form. why, if he wasnt serious, would he become that form anyway? its like freeza using final form on raditz

I can assure you that Janemba went full power against Gogeta. Janemba instantly powered up because of Gogeta's presence. You stupid imbecile! DBZ wiki is not bullshit at all! The wiki might not be 100% true like wikipedia but it states true information on DBZ and you state that the Toei website for the DBZ Movies is false? Are you a idiot? Toei stated that Janemba is stronger than Hirudegarn and said that Hirudegarn is 2nd to Janemba. Goku SSJ3 was able to trade blows with Hirudegarn at his strongest. Janemba wasn't even trying at the start of the fight and he'd rip Goku SSJ3 and Vegeta SSJ2 to shreds without breaking a sweat. Also Goku stated that Janemba had the strongest Ki he had ever felt. Did he say that to Hirudegarn or Mystic Gohan? No

Also i hate to burst your bubble even more but Reality Warpers beat Intangibility users.

Janemba>Hirudegarn>Mystic Gohan

YOU got owned badly kid

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

dbz wikia is indeed bullshit. it doesnt state true info for the most part. stick to kanzenshuu and the actual manga. numerous times ive seen them use dub errors instead of the original dialogue.
show me a proper legit source that toei said this. wait you cant because they never did so.
goku was trading blows because he was *gasp* strongerr than in the previous movie, and hirudegarn was intangible so he was a much harder opponent to kill.
janemba was visibly distressed by the fact ssj3 goku was causing him damage in hand to hand and decided to use his ki blasts. we have no idea about the gap of him at "full power" and what he was before. large powerups usually take some time.
intangiility is a form of reality warping. all janemba can truly do with his so called reality warping is put his hand through dimensional walls and have it come out in another direction and turn a rock into a sword. vegeta figured it out and put a ki blast just as janemba was "cube ifying" which blasted the shit out of him. that kind of dimensional warping has no effect because hirudegarn can turn to mist and tank the hit. fat janemba was doing way more reality warping than the super one. cutting attacks are useless vs the mist

Also Goku stated that Janemba had the strongest Ki he had ever felt. Did he say that to Hirudegarn or Mystic Gohan? No

he had no need to. does him not saying that freezas the strongest opponent at that point in time mean he actually wasnt? no. and not once did they comment on broly's ki level as being higher than anyone whos come before either.

 

[Uisu]

dbz wikia is indeed bullshit. it doesnt state true info for the most part. stick to kanzenshuu and the actual manga. numerous times ive seen them use dub errors instead of the original dialogue.
show me a proper legit source that toei said this. wait you cant because they never did so.
goku was trading blows because he was *gasp* strongerr than in the previous movie, and hirudegarn was intangible so he was a much harder opponent to kill.
janemba was visibly distressed by the fact ssj3 goku was causing him damage in hand to hand and decided to use his ki blasts. we have no idea about the gap of him at "full power" and what he was before. large powerups usually take some time.
intangiility is a form of reality warping. all janemba can truly do with his so called reality warping is put his hand through dimensional walls and have it come out in another direction and turn a rock into a sword. vegeta figured it out and put a ki blast just as janemba was "cube ifying" which blasted the shit out of him. that kind of dimensional warping has no effect because hirudegarn can turn to mist and tank the hit. fat janemba was doing way more reality warping than the super one. cutting attacks are useless vs the mist

he had no need to. does him not saying that freezas the strongest opponent at that point in time mean he actually wasnt? no. and not once did they comment on broly's ki level as being higher than anyone whos come before either.

Wrong. Like i said again for the 20th time, DBZ wiki is just like wikipedia. It may not be 100% true but it's a legit source for DBZ. Janemba is actually the hardest to kill because Gogeta's technique the Stardust Breaker is the only move that can kill Janemba. Sorry but you are underrating Janemba so badly it's ridiculous. You are underrating Janemba's Reality Warping powers very badly. He is the most dangerous character because of his Reality Warping and because he's a Reality Warper he could even beat Buutenks and Buuhan even though he's outclassed in power. Janemba is a high tier Reality Warper and if Gogeta didn't stand in his way he would of destroyed the universe just like Goku stated that he could. You stating that the fat Janemba showed more than Super Janemba tells me that you have no idea on how power Janemba is. He can cut through Dimensions with his Dimension Sword. Gotenks SSJ3 was even stronger than Mystic Gohan in the Wrath of Dragon because Gotenks forced Hirudegarn do go into his strongest form. I can see why Gotenks was stronger than Gohan because Gohan stopped training. Just admit that your getting owned here kid.