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He only has a limited FTG and no way to get past Susanoo (Teleportation isn't an option due to Enton)

He has no real way to avoid Amaterasu for long as he needs to mark things before he can teleport unlike Minato who can teleport via Kunai. Sasuke can see chakra via Sharingan, so he can leave a bunch of flame at the areas Tobirama has marked thus rendering FTG useless, and he gets killed.

This is all assuming he hasn't been killed before being able to mark something.

how does enton stop the teleportation?

I know tobirama isn't as good with FTG as minato but that doesn't mean he's "limited", it just means he doesn't have the kunai to throw but he can still make markings on whatever he touches and im pretty this negative feature doesn't change his FTG abilities THAT much

Tobirama still has water jutsu/waterwall and can make his body explode with the tags to help avoid the burning (amaterasu burn slowly)

It's been confirmed that FTG users can qarp NEAR the marking, so sasuke burin the exact spot wont stop tobirama from using that marking. (tobirama marking obito but teleported behind him in the current chapter)

lastly, tobirama is a senju so I believe he has more chakra than sasuke or I doubt sasuke will waste so much chakra trying to burn the places tobirama mark, he can make countless markings

Tobirama and Minato above sasuke even though they faster i don't see how they get past sasuke's 2 layer defense susanoo and he can make a Enton field just how are they gonna get past that

true BUT the same can be said for sasuke how can sasuke catch/hit the??

it will come down to who has more chakra, and I believe them both can OUTLaST sasuke

Sasuke & Itachi > Minato & tobirama

Muu > Kakashi & killerbee

Other than that its a pretty solid list.

...I really disagree
 

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He only has a limited FTG and no way to get past Susanoo (Teleportation isn't an option due to Enton)

He has no real way to avoid Amaterasu for long as he needs to mark things before he can teleport unlike Minato who can teleport via Kunai. Sasuke can see chakra via Sharingan, so he can leave a bunch of flame at the areas Tobirama has marked thus rendering FTG useless, and he gets killed.

This is all assuming he hasn't been killed before being able to mark something.

Ur argument does make's sense but Tobirama can use this
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It would be Hard for Sasuke to use Susanoo and even Sasuke's lightng can't help him since Tobi maintains distence from his water as shown in above pic

He can even use water beneath Sasuke's foot to attack him ....
 
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Ur argument does make's sence but Tobirama can use this
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It would be Hard for Sasuke to use Susanoo and even Sasuke's lightng can't help him since Tobi maintains distence from his water as shown in above pic

He can even use water beneath Sasuke's foot to attack him ....

Suiton isn't getting past Susanoo nor is it hindering it. Don't even know why you'd think its a factor.

Also, Enton>>Suiton.
 

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Suiton isn't getting past Susanoo nor is it hindering it. Don't even know why you'd think its a factor.

Also, Enton>>Suiton.

your right but wrong too lol

enton>suiton BUT its NOT confirmed that enton can go through suiton (suiton just cant put it out but it CAN block it)

waterwall>amaterasu (it'll block it but cant put it out, just like gaara's sand)
 
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Suiton isn't getting past Susanoo nor is it hindering it. Don't even know why you'd think its a factor.

Also, Enton>>Suiton.

Iam not Sayng that it can get past Susanoo or it can breaks Susanoo ......!

My point is that He can't fight under water even if he is usng Susanoo...!
 

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how does enton stop the teleportation?

I know tobirama isn't as good with FTG as minato but that doesn't mean he's "limited", it just means he doesn't have the kunai to throw but he can still make markings on whatever he touches and im pretty this negative feature doesn't change his FTG abilities THAT much

Tobirama still has water jutsu/waterwall and can make his body explode with the tags to help avoid the burning (amaterasu burn slowly)

It's been confirmed that FTG users can qarp NEAR the marking, so sasuke burin the exact spot wont stop tobirama from using that marking. (tobirama marking obito but teleported behind him in the current chapter)

lastly, tobirama is a senju so I believe he has more chakra than sasuke or I doubt sasuke will waste so much chakra trying to burn the places tobirama mark, he can make countless markings



true BUT the same can be said for sasuke how can sasuke catch/hit the??

it will come down to who has more chakra, and I believe them both can OUTLaST sasuke



...I really disagree

i doubt Minato can outlast sasuke and Tobirama isn't that fast on base speed (i think) unless he tagged the person so i guess he isn't a problem
 

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i doubt Minato can outlast sasuke and Tobirama isn't that fast on base speed (i think) unless he tagged the person so i guess he isn't a problem

minato seemingly had a lot of chakra naturally, and now he has KCM. He can def outlast sasuke (I believe he could without KCM).
 

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lets just agree to disagree, that's too many change if you really look at it lol

Its not like I find the majority of your list to be off, in fact this is one of the better ones. I'm agreeing more than I disagree if you really look at it.
 

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Its not like I find the majority of your list to be off, in fact this is one of the better ones. I'm agreeing more than I disagree if you really look at it.

so YOUR list is

juubito
madara/hashirama
naruto
nagato
dsm kabuto
sasuke/itachi
minato
tobirama
muu
killer bee
kakashi
oonoki
3rd raikage
 

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minato seemingly had a lot of chakra naturally, and now he has KCM. He can def outlast sasuke (I believe he could without KCM).

or it's his excellent chakra control but i doubt that also they both seem to match everyone they fought stamina wise guess it's hard to say between them
 

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so YOUR list is

juubito
madara/hashirama
naruto
nagato
dsm kabuto
sasuke/itachi
minato
tobirama
muu
killer bee
kakashi
oonoki
3rd raikage

Yeah but sasuke > Itachi
 

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or it's his excellent chakra control but i doubt that also they both seem to match everyone they fought stamina wise guess it's hard to say between them

excellent chakra control means nothing if your using it all up, just saying

minato has KCM now, all that stuff he did against obito/kyuubi was his base, KCM is a massive boost all around

minato def oulast IMO
 

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Good ;D

I agree with you Minato > Tobirama and Kakashi > Muu
 
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