My thoughts on rinnegan and tenseigan mechaniacs

[Sagebee]

I think the root of the rinnegans and what I expect of the tenseigans 6 paths powers is inspired from the Samsara concept

And samsara deals with the cycle of rebirth aka reincarnation. And samsara has 6 categories of things you can get reincarnated on the wheel of life.

A deva (god), a ashura (demon), human, animal, preta (ghosts), naraka (spirits damned in hell)

Also these six paths constitute six realms I'm sure a six path dojutsu could vary in abilities of what power they get from each realm for example deva path we usually see we gravity powers but maybe you get a fire devas flame ability or something.

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[Darth AniCetuS]

I believe paths and their abilities could differ from user to user.

 

[Sagebee]

I believe paths and their abilities could differ from user to user.

I think it differs based on the chakra fruit, chakra fruits awaken rinnegans but for some reason sasuke and madara had similar abilities because they were awakening hagoromos specific rinnegan eyes

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

I think it differs based on the chakra fruit, chakra fruits awaken rinnegans but for some reason sasuke and madara had similar abilities because they were awakening hagoromos specific rinnegan eyes

The anime did say something about the level of chakra fruits but not sure about that but even though Madara and Sasuke's rinnegan originated from Hagoromo's there were difference between the abilities and the powers they gained.

 

[Sagebee]

The anime did say something about the level of chakra fruits but not sure about that but even though Madara and Sasuke's rinnegan originated from Hagoromo's there were difference between the abilities and the powers they gained.

Well the only difference is ameno and limbo

And I think ameno is a sharingan technique because it follows in sharingan technique pattern of being named after Japanese gods

And limbo which I think is a mixture of rinnegan elemental chakra manipulation and rsm. Where limbo clones are invisible by mixture of elemental and sage chakra. So limbo doesn't belong to any paths abilities

 

[Styles]

All Rinnegan is the same just different users have a different unique ability. While Tenseigan is unknown since it was a plot device that won't be shown or talked about again.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Well the only difference is ameno and limbo

And I think ameno is a sharingan technique because it follows in sharingan technique pattern of being named after Japanese gods

And limbo which I think is a mixture of rinnegan elemental chakra manipulation and rsm. Where limbo clones are invisible by mixture of elemental and sage chakra. So limbo doesn't belong to any paths abilities

There are also differences in how there CTs work or Sasuke possessing a rinnegan genjutsu. A first for any rinnegan user. As for the paths Sasuke hasn't shown that he possess all the paths either.

 

[Sagebee]

All Rinnegan is the same just different users have a different unique ability. While Tenseigan is unknown since it was a plot device that won't be shown or talked about again.

Realllly:lol how do you know the tenseigan won't get development

 

[Sagebee]

There are also differences in how there CTs work or Sasuke possessing a rinnegan genjutsu. A first for any rinnegan user. As for the paths Sasuke hasn't shown that he possess all the paths either.

Well I think that's a result of the rinnegan super powering sasukes sharingan to do that feat

Didn't madara do a 360 smack down of the tail beasts with ameno so imagine rinnegan juicing his sharingan eyes

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Well I think that's a result of the rinnegan super powering sasukes sharingan to do that feat

Didn't madara do a 360 smack down of the tail beasts with ameno so imagine rinnegan juicing his sharingan eyes

Nope, CT is purely a rinnegan ability and anyone caught in his genjutsu has the rinnegan eye pattern. So I believe the genjutsu is purely a rinnegan ability as well though I could be wrong about it.

 

[Edogawa]

Nope, CT is purely a rinnegan ability and anyone caught in his genjutsu has the rinnegan eye pattern. So I believe the genjutsu is purely a rinnegan ability as well though I could be wrong about it.

Rinnegan doesn't have Genjutsu. Sasuke's Rinnegan can cast Genjutsu because it has the power of the Sharingan.

OT: Well, lots of Doujutsu techniques are based on mythology creatures. Mangekyou Sharingan techniques, for example, base their Jutsu's on Japanese mythology concepts. Here is what I copied from Susanoo-no-Mikoto:

''In Japanese mythology, Susanoo, the powerful storm god of Summer, is the brother of Amaterasu, the goddess of the Sun, and of Tsukuyomi, the god of the Moon. All three were born from Izanagi, when he washed his face clean of the pollutants of Yomi, the underworld. Amaterasu was born when Izanagi washed out his left eye, Tsukuyomi was born from the washing of the right eye, and Susanoo from the washing of the nose. Susanoo used Totsuka-no-Tsurugi as his weapon.''

The Six Paths in Naruto has two meanings: Hagoromo or Nagato. Hagoromo is nicknamed as The Sage of Six Paths or Rikudou Sennin, and Nagato is nicknamed as Pain of the Six Paths or Rikudou Pain. Only Hagoromo and Nagato can use the Jutsu's of Six Paths. Sasuke and Madara have their own Rinnegan abilities.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Rinnegan doesn't have Genjutsu. Sasuke's Rinnegan can cast Genjutsu because it has the power of the Sharingan.

As I said, I am not exactly sure how his genjutsu works but there's no proof for your theory either. However only rinnegan has shown the ability to manifest the rinnegan eye pattern in those affected by the rinnegan's genjutsu so I am more inclined to believe that Sasuke's too is a rinnegan based genjutsu.

 

[HENI]

Wrong. Rinnegan is based on samsara. Tenseigan is based on reincarnation.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Sasuke's rinnegan powers is Hinduism and his deva path is known as Indra the god of lightning.

 

[SeveN797]

As I said, I am not exactly sure how his genjutsu works but there's no proof for your theory either. However only rinnegan has shown the ability to manifest the rinnegan eye pattern in those affected by the rinnegan's genjutsu so I am more inclined to believe that Sasuke's too is a rinnegan based genjutsu.

He used sharingan genjutsu on bijuu's. His Rinnegan kept all the sharingan powers including ability to cast visual genjutsu on eye contact. Genjutsu always worked like that on bijuu's, their eyes would reflect doujutsu that was used to cast genjutsu on them. He simply used sharingan genjutsu through his Rinnegan. Kyuubi had 3T sharingan when he was under Madara's and Obito's control. Rinnegan doesn't have genjutsu otherwise Madara would do the same to bijuu's instead of using limbo.

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[SeveN797]

Wrong. Rinnegan is based on samsara. Tenseigan is based on reincarnation.

Fillergan isn't based on anything, it's literal meaning is Reincarnation Eye, but that's it, it has no connections to any religion or any symbolism etc.

Rinnegan is based on samsara which also refers to cycle of life(reincarnation)

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Based upon the six Buddhist Paths of Reincarnation, each technique was named after one of the different "Paths": Deva, Asura, Human, Animal, Preta, and Naraka. Each of these Paths, or realms, represents one of the realms a being is reborn into after death, determined by the accumulated karma of their past lives. While the two lower Paths, Preta and Naraka, are hellish, and the two higher Paths, Deva and Asura, are heavenly, all six are considered to be Paths of suffering because they perpetuate the cycle of Reincarnation; the only way to break it and ascend to a higher state of existence is to attain enlightenment.

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[Darth AniCetuS]

He used sharingan genjutsu on bijuu's. His Rinnegan kept all the sharingan powers including ability to cast visual genjutsu on eye contact. Genjutsu always worked like that on bijuu's, their eyes would reflect doujutsu that was used to cast genjutsu on them. He simply used sharingan genjutsu through his Rinnegan. Kyuubi had 3T sharingan when he was under Madara's and Obito's control. Rinnegan doesn't have genjutsu otherwise Madara would do the same to bijuu's instead of using limbo.

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Again there's nothing to prove what you claim but we all know the bijuus's eyes had Sasuke's rinnegan pattern as seen here.

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So even based on your logic that the affected's eyes would reflect doujutsu that was used to cast the genjutsu it should be the rinnegan. And again not saying that I am correct since I can't prove it either.

 

[SeveN797]

Again there's nothing to prove what you claim but we all know the bijuus's eyes had Sasuke's rinnegan pattern as seen here.

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So even based on your logic that the affected's eyes would reflect doujutsu that was used to cast the genjutsu it should be the rinnegan. And again not saying that I am correct since I can't prove it either.

I think it's pretty clear. No Rinnegan user ever casted a genjutsu, Madara's wood clone switched to EMS to cast genjutsu on Raikage, living Madara used limbo on bijuu's, Obito was controlling jins with Outer Path and later on he used gedo chains on bijuu's. Sasuke was the only one because his Rinnegan still possess Sharingan/MS powers. The reflected eye was Rinnegan yes, but he also uses Amaterasu through his Rinnegan, does that makes Amaterasu a rinnegan tech now? No, same goes for genjutsu, it was sharingan genjutsu used through rinnegan.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

I think it's pretty clear. No Rinnegan user ever casted a genjutsu, Madara's wood clone switched to EMS to cast genjutsu on Raikage, living Madara used limbo on bijuu's, Obito was controlling jins with Outer Path and later on he used gedo chains on bijuu's. Sasuke was the only one because his Rinnegan still possess Sharingan/MS powers. The reflected eye was Rinnegan yes, but he also uses Amaterasu through his Rinnegan, does that makes Amaterasu a rinnegan tech now? No, same goes for genjutsu, it was sharingan genjutsu used through rinnegan.

No rinnegan user ever casted a genjutsu doesn't mean that no one ever will. While I agree it was an asspull power up to give Sasuke a fighting chance against Naruto it was still most likely a rinnegan genjutsu.

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So amaterasu is a sharingan technique and even when Sasuke used it using his fused Shraingan and Rinnegan did it behave different or change in anyway? No.
Then why do you expect a sharingan genjutsu would manifest a rinnegan pattern when its a sharingan genjutsu unless its not. The rinnegan is fused to his sharingan in either case.

 

[SeveN797]

Then why do you expect a sharingan genjutsu would manifest a rinnegan pattern when its a sharingan genjutsu unless its not. The rinnegan is fused to his sharingan in either case.

Why it should be sharingan pattern, when the eye that was used to cast genjutsu was Rinnegan?

Sasuke used his left eye which is Rinnegan that's how controlling genjutsu works on bijuu's, their eyes will always reflect eyes of caster's genjutsu. It was sharingan power but used through Rinnegan, hence why Rinnegan pattern was reflected.

Sharingan can cast visual genjutsu on bijuus and their eyes will reflect it = fact
No Rinnegan user ever casted a visual genjutsu = fact
Sasuke Rinnegan possess Sharingan/MS powers = fact
Bijuu's that were controlled by Sasuke reflected the same eye that was used to cast genjutsu(sharingan genjutsu trait)

I think it's pretty clear now?
Madara made it even more clear when his wood clone had to switch to EMS to cast genjutsu, because Rinnegan doesn't have genjutsu ability, unless you have a hybrid eye like Sasuke does, then you can use sharingan powers with/through Rinnegan.