My take on Nagato's eyes and Tobi being Obito

[SilverSlick]

lol still these useless threads
ya'll should just write your own manga with all your assumptions and theories, i bet that's more fun than bashing kishi for effing up the timeline or w/e
lawl

just wait and enjoy the series like jet07 said

No one has bashed anyone in this whole thread:|

 

[IzunaUchiha2]

good theory bro

 

[HandleysFinest]

Hmm, I dont think Madara gave Nagato the Rinnegan. How the hell is he supposed to know that THIS baby kid can learn the Rinne Tensei etc? I think Nagato was born with them.

I agree. There are just too many holes and not enough information to go on to make that claim, especially after we seen how nagato recieved his rinnegan. All we have is tobi's/obito's word saying so, & i wouldnt see why someone would just hand over the rinnegan over to a child anyways especially seeing how essentially he wouldnt know what to do with it (esp if jiraiya never stepped in to help train him). or maybe that could have been the plan from the jump street who knows, I personally just believe it was a lie to justify his taking of the rinnegan. Until Kishi gives the follow up on what happened & why, its hard to say forsure.

 

[Lordofd100x]

He was assisted I think, it's still possible that Tobi isn't obito that it's all a genjutsu.. Maybe he used zetsu or he's an eternal izanagi but there must be more to this shit

 

[Y3llovv fla5h]

1. Agreed

2. Why would Obito say that he's been waiting so long for the day he can capture the kyuubi if it's only been two years? I think it's Izuna still at this point & they either share a body or Obito is just a vessel.

3. Agree up until posture. Tobi & Izuna share same weight and height in the databook.

On number 2...that's basically what I was trying to get at Lol, and on number 3 I know that they have the same but the way long haired "Tobi" stands is more idk relaxed and looks more like Madara with a certain kinda swag, and current "Tobi" doesn't have that.

Idk what chapter it's in but if u find the flashback halter where itachi is talking to him in the woods than u can see what I mean....

 

[Y3llovv fla5h]

I've been thinking the exact same thing but then why would zetsu pass on the identity of tobi to some dying child?

Also, I don't know if someone has mentioned this but who is zetsu? Like I understand he's some sort of a creation from the first hokage'a cells but he has a soul, a personality, he can die meaning he is someone. You may say mokuton gives life but what about that thing tobi claims to gave created from the first hokage's cells? He said it was inanimate. Why is that inanimate but not zetsu?

Yes zetsu definitely has a big role to play.

There was also a page where kabuto and tobi were talking and kabuto said something that made it seem like there is more than one Zetsu....

 

[UchihaMifune]

I believe at first there was Madara and Tobi. Before Madara died he gave Tobi his eyes, Tobi then went on to give them to Nagato. Afterwards something must have happened to Tobi to where he couldn't complete Madara's original plan. So Tobi then went on to find someone who could.. this is where Obito comes into play. Tobi found him, saved him and influenced him enough to change his way and turned him evil and what not.
What do you guys think?

JUST A THEORY SO PLEASE DON'T CRY ABOUT IT.

Dude, i have thought this EXACT same thing before, +rep

 

[UchihaMifune]

There was also a page where kabuto and tobi were talking and kabuto said something that made it seem like there is more than one Zetsu....

He was referring to black zetsu and white zetsu and the fact that he wanted one of them. Each acts as its own entity but they can combine into one

 

[Y3llovv fla5h]

He was referring to black zetsu and white zetsu and the fact that he wanted one of them. Each acts as its own entity but they can combine into one

Yea the black one acts more sinister....like Madara

 

[Naruto king of Shinobi]

Hmm, I dont think Madara gave Nagato the Rinnegan. How the hell is he supposed to know that THIS baby kid can learn the Rinne Tensei etc? I think Nagato was born with them.

He was definitely NOT born with them. For one he is an uzumaki, not an uchiha. Two, you think as a child he killed his best friend in order to get the MS, then implanted his brothers eyes in order to get EMS, which then evolved into the rinnegan?(because the rinnegan is part of the sharigan evolution in case you missed that). Tobi/Obito claimed to have given nagato the rinnegan. He wouldn't have done it out of impulse he had something planned. The real madara also knew nagato, which is probably tied to how nagato got the rinnegan

 

[Disquiet]

"I awakened these eyes shortly before my death" is ambiguous. He could easily be and is most likely talking about his pretended death.

 

[OnPoint]

lol still these useless threads
ya'll should just write your own manga with all your assumptions and theories, i bet that's more fun than bashing kishi for effing up the timeline or w/e
lawl

just wait and enjoy the series like jet07 said

I think you need to re-read this thread.

 

[softkings]

He was definitely NOT born with them. For one he is an uzumaki, not an uchiha. Two, you think as a child he killed his best friend in order to get the MS, then implanted his brothers eyes in order to get EMS, which then evolved into the rinnegan?(because the rinnegan is part of the sharigan evolution in case you missed that). Tobi/Obito claimed to have given nagato the rinnegan. He wouldn't have done it out of impulse he had something planned. The real madara also knew nagato, which is probably tied to how nagato got the rinnegan

And how will you explain Rikudou having only Rinnegan.

 

[MrLukyso]

Todays chapters proves you wrong. Obito lived 100 years later after Madara even though Madara knows him very well. Madara is too much Badass for not to live 100 years.

 

[OnPoint]

Todays chapters proves you wrong. Obito lived 100 years later after Madara even though Madara knows him very well. Madara is too much Badass for not to live 100 years.

So today's chapter confirms Nagato awakened his eyes then? Did you read the thread?