[Theory] my opinion why kishimoto trolled us about the concept of infinit tsukoyomi !!

[LogicnoJutsu]

That wasn't the "Infinite Tsukuyomi" he showed Obito. He said it was his so technically (his personal IT) so that means its whatever he wants it to be. He has Indras chakra and Rinnegan so he can freely move inside it. Everyone else is just lost in their never ending dreams.

At least thats how i see it.

Its the same thing but obviously Madara is Superior in control of his personal IT. Im sure if sasuke gets caught in his he'll be the only one aware he's in it.

Also I'm sure once he's connected to it to like he wanted he could take complete control of it. Or That was just a farce to get the Fruit and thats what he means by becoming one. Or the fruit is something only Kaguya wants.

 

[Draxus]

So this entire thread is because you took what a TRANSLATION said too literally?

Please change the "us" in your thread title to "me" and "kishimoto" to "manga panda", cuz I always assumed this was basically how IT would work. What I always wondered was how people would continue to live while trapped in their own dream world, but now we know the Shinju will be the incubator.

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

I too have had a similar question a few days ago :

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according to that translated scan (by mangapanda) where madara explains IT to Obito , apparently madara were to create a unified 'dream world' exactly as he wantsl , and his plan was to 'drag people into that world' too . so I thought it was the case that everyone would be subject to his preferences , which is not how it's portrayed in 678

however , how would that 'make everyone a winner'? it's obvious that not everyone could be completely satisfied if IT is really depicted as what madara described to obito as there would be a conflict in 'dreams'

e.g. let's say both naruto and lee wants to possess sakura by themselves individually . naruto wins if he can possess sakura and loses otherwise , vice versa for lee .
how could madara possibly satisfy the said demands without creating losers and winners ?

So , I would say the 'concept of IT' changed back when madara/obito said he would create a world where everyone is a winner.

Of course , it could also be interpreted that IT is just as its initial stage (as proposed by dragonor) . it would ultimately end up just in the way it's first introduced . when that occurs , everyone's own dreams would vanish and they would be trapped in a 'dream world' created and manipulated by madara alone . (but that would just induce a contradiction with the '0 loser' concept)

so , in the end , I believe madara most likely lied to obito.

 

[Uchiha Samater]

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[Your Creepy Stalker]

You missed the pointless Tobidara reference so we can humiliate you.

 

[Magi]

Nice find. I didn't think about it that way

 

[Darkboy85]

Surprisingly nice find for once minamoto

Cheers.

 

[minamoto]

I made this thread already:

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Its not that they would have 'dream competition' they would simply be part of Madara's Matrix world. It would be like an alternate reality that he created and brought people into. Its not like they would have any personal control of the dream, they would simply be part of Madara's alternate reality where he would control everything. But obviously that differs from what we are seeing.

ive just read your thread..yes you are right you somhow discussed same thread as mine...i dont deny it...but i swear to you with honesty that i hav'nt read you thread befor or stole any of your ideas...it just thoughts that i had since madara used jukai kouten to attach poeple with god tree during ritual of infinit tsukoyoùmi

 

[minamoto]

Surprisingly nice find for once minamoto

Cheers.

well all thx goes as well to this man

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just similar thread to mine but he was ahead of me...BUT I DIDNT STEAL IT...GOD KNOWS THAT IM NOT A THIEF!!

 

[Fegelein]

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[minamoto]

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wow you are so smart !

 

[Angelic.]

it isnt your opinion unless it has tobidara in it. theif! h8ter!

 

[minamoto]

it isnt your opinion unless it has tobidara in it. theif! h8ter!

next time i will be reporting you

 

[Fegelein]

next time i will be reporting you

This isn't LoL.

 

[minamoto]

This isn't LoL.

but bro he harass me and stalk me everywhere in the base

 

[Fegelein]

but bro he harass me and stalk me everywhere in the base

It says it's a female, maybe you have a secret admirer.