How is sasuke going to handle all the kage level clones that Naruto can throw at him?..their faster and stronger than sasuke bro U_U Naruto is just really OP right now especially since he's friends with kurama and has BM.
Re: My full detailed discussion on why naruto>sasuke right now( come at me sasuke fan
Lot of effort to detail something that's been pretty obvious for a while now.
but I have a feeling Sasuke is going to learn snake/dragon sage mode somehow from the info Suigetsu found or from Kabuto to catch up to Naruto. Although currently~ Sasuke doesn't have a chance.
Lot of effort to detail something that's been pretty obvious for a while now.
but I have a feeling Sasuke is going to learn snake/dragon sage mode somehow from the info Suigetsu found or from Kabuto to catch up to Naruto. Although currently~ Sasuke doesn't have a chance.
Re: My full detailed discussion on why naruto>sasuke right now( come at me sasuke fan
Meh whatev - I tried my best to stick up for Sasuke but he's just too damn weak right now! WTF man! You're the "Uchiha's Avenger" come up with somethin'.
Meh whatev - I tried my best to stick up for Sasuke but he's just too damn weak right now! WTF man! You're the "Uchiha's Avenger" come up with somethin'.
Meh whatev - I tried my best to stick up for Sasuke but he's just too damn weak right now! WTF man! You're the "Uchiha's Avenger" come up with somethin'.
Re: My full detailed discussion on why naruto>sasuke right now( come at me sasuke fan
I dont Believe Sasuke>Naruto atm but i can sit here an argue how even in sasukes current state it would be a good fight. instead of "sasuke will get raped or his ass beat" through some of narutos moves and stuff at me and i will attempt to counter them since i dont see many fans here and i dont see many putting up much of a debate
Ah, with all that being said, you might as well just decide the outcome of their final match while you're at it - with Naruto emerging as the victor, No? Unfortunately, that's not an option at this point. Your facts pertaining to Naruto's abilities and attacks are commendable, and aside from the debates that other members on the Base have brought up, you've done a great job covering everything, so +Rep.
However, regardless of all of Naruto's abilities that you've covered in this post (and everything else, if you even missed anything), as Kishimoto made clear in his last interview, Naruto and Sasuke represent Yin & Yang. You've done a great at listing Naruto's side of things, power-wise, but don't forget that Sasuke has quite an arsenal as well (I could expand on that, but it'd take much too long and this post is getting lengthy enough as it is). Furthermore, there's still the chance of him unlocking even more EMS techniques, based on whether Kishimoto decides to throw in a few more 'additions' to the Sharingan - and if all else fails, there's always the *chance that Sasuke may awaken the Rinnegan (just a popular speculation). Also, as Kishimoto has made clear, the abilities of the Sharingan (and by extension, the Rinnegan) are not set in stone, seeing as Izanami was just introduced. Also worthy of mentioning, much of Sasuke's prowess with his EMS has yet to be seen, so it's not quite right to say 'Current Naruto > Current Sasuke'when we have yet to see Everything Sasuke has gain by awakening the EMS (Like the additional 'fourth technique', for example).
So, to Summarize:
1. Making comparisons between Naruto and Sasuke while you have 100% of the information on one character but only 50% on the other is completely moot. It's like saying the Lamborghini is faster than the Bugatti when the latter hasn't even rolled off the assembly line yet - it makes no sense. Only after we've seen all there is to Sasuke's new powers, can you make a stable comparison between the two. Until that time, there's little sense in doing so now.
2. There may still be quite a few Sharingan and Rinnegan techniques that are yet to be introduced through Sasuke (assuming he awakens the Rinnegan, though its only speculation), and those new powers may be quite capable of nullifying the many abilities Naruto possesses, bringing things to a stalemate between the two in terms of power, so as I stated before, don't make comparisons with only half-hearted information on one character and 100% of the information on another.
3. Regardless of Naruto's abilities that you pointed out, as the two are representative of Yin & Yang, in their final match, they will be equal - at least in the initial stages of their battle. Each may be able to gain an edge over each other momentarily, much like their first battle at the Valley of the End, where Sasuke originally had the advantage, then Naruto did, then Sasuke, etc. However, everything will pan out in the end, so it makes little sense to say that one of them will be able to completely dominate the entire battle - If that's what a majority of you guys are assuming, you will most likely be disappointed. For the battle to be truly intense, both sides need to be balanced, with the Final Clash deciding the Victor. There's little thrill if Naruto dominates the entire fight, and likewise if Sasuke stays in control of the whole match, and that is what some of you guys need to understand.
Sooo many times when I see a fanboy defend sasuke they have to resort to these points, which frankly are pure speculation.
1. Your argument is irrelevant, the OP stated naruto>sasuke right now
2. Same as 1, and him getting rinnegan is pure fan speculation, born out of the fact that sasuke needs something desperately to put him near Naruto's level.
3. Same as 1, and I would love to see naruto dominate the whole fight. What would be better than 2 clones playing susanoo tennis.
@ the OP'er I didn't read, but it seems like you got everything (since even sasuke fanboys are giving up haha). So + rep to you. Can't wait for the next person to say sasuke>naruto, i'll link them straight to this thread
- Not only will it not catch naruto, your first thought in your mind is that is shoots instantly and its a lock on target which is true but the 4th raikage was capable of dodging while it shot locked on instantly proof shown here:
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Raikage instantly dodges it now considering naruto is practically faster than the raikage amarastu wont catch him.
naruto's speed is unimaginable shown here:
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now only is naruto able to dodge 5 bijuu bombs coming at him but even kakashi is even outstanded by him ameratsu is case closed at this point.
1. genjutsu-
stated by wikipedia-he ninja needs to stop the flow of chakra in their body, and then apply an even stronger power to disrupt the flow of the caster's chakra; this is called Genjutsu Dissipation (幻術解, Genjutsu Kai). This can also be done by an unaffected ninja by applying a sudden surge of chakra into the affected person. In addition, tailed beasts can break their jinchūriki out of genjutsu in a similar fashion if they have a good enough cooperation, as seen in Killer B's case.
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right here sasuke attempts to put killer be into a genjutsu and succeeds.
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but bee instantly brakes out of it thanks to the 8 tails this is not the only time he also brakes out of itachi's also.
he brakes out of itachi's right here:
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with all that said naruto is somewhat immune to genjutsu, the only exception is yagura because he had a tailed beasts but tobi somehow put him into a genjutsu by some other meens.
attacks-
1. summonings
gamabunts-not only does gamabunta have water and oil techniques shown here:
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right here gamaunbta shows his water techniques that can counter sasuke's katon
his oil techniques that can counter sasuke's chidori
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sage mode-
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it increases his strength by alot.
his taijutsu also increases which is superior to sasuke's his using it right here:
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if him a sasuke start to go in a taijutsu match naruto doesnt even have to make contact shown here:
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not to mention his reflexes and durability improve too.
his clones- i should not even explain how op his shadow clones are now especially in KM mode.
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a clone is taking on the 3rd raikage and figures out his weak spot,
not to mention in sage mode he can sense malice danger faster which will be touch for sasuke, naruto will be able to sense where he is now stated in the manga.
long range attacks-
naruto doesnt even have to go near sasuke to rape him/attack him he can easily use his chakra arms as a distance to attack him
shown here:
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he uses his chakra arms against muu.
and how does sasuke handle 20 km clones?
better yet how does he handle this?
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he can also spread many chakra arms around him at once which can be used as a offensive/and defensive right here.
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another thing is taijutsu again if they start using that (sasuke and naruto) frog smash is a powerful one handed strike that sends ripples of natural energy that emanate through the strcuk target shown here:
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naruto also can use summoning food cart destroy which can engulf his sussano if its not full or covered in flames and crush sasuke
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Distraction- deva pain
while naruto is fighting sasuke he can easily have his shadow clones take the form of his surroundings and wait till the perfect moment to make them come out just like deva pain shown here-
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and here
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as soon as they come out of the transformation for the surroundings they can easily have this ready for sasuke
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or this
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knowing sasuke's high and mighty attitude he will probably think naruto's mini rasen shuriken will be nothing but will be deadly wrong
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also might likely wont see it due its small size so it would be good for a surprise attack.
not to mention his other toad summoning
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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
for the people that think sasuke can just take control of all his summonings he probably can but not for long why? ( he doesnt have infinite chakra)
wait.. kurama plays a part in this too? i think he does
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any summoning that sasuke has wouldnt no nothing to kurama especially in this state.
Most likely sussano wont stay for long considering naruto has his bijuu dama which took on 5 other tailed beats.
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now considering that tsunade ( senju fodder) was able to break madara's sussano ( even tho it probably wasn't in full form) this should tell you a bijuu dama would do way worse shown here,
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-sasuke's sussano offensives
If sasuke tries to grab naruto with his sussano arms
naruto can easily counter if he wanted to with clone body blow show here:
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and here
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rasegan and chidori clashes? nope! no more clashes since naruto can easily cancel out sasuke's chidori with planetary rasegan.
shown here:
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and this is the result of planetary rasegan ( poor muu)
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DONE. feel free to comment below on my post or hate or do whatever you want and thanks for reading
P.S come anytime sasuke fanboys :scorps: charles out.
Ah, with all that being said, you might as well just decide the outcome of their final match while you're at it - with Naruto emerging as the victor, No? Unfortunately, that's not an option at this point. Your facts pertaining to Naruto's abilities and attacks are commendable, and aside from the debates that other members on the Base have brought up, you've done a great job covering everything, so +Rep.
However, regardless of all of Naruto's abilities that you've covered in this post (and everything else, if you even missed anything), as Kishimoto made clear in his last interview, Naruto and Sasuke represent Yin & Yang. You've done a great of listing Naruto's side of things, power-wise, but don't forget that Sasuke has quite an arsenal as well (I could expand on that, but it'd take much too long and this post is getting lengthy enough as it is). Furthermore, there's still the chance of him unlocking even more EMS techniques, based on whether Kishimoto decides to throw in a few more 'additions' to the Sharingan - and if all else fails, there's always the possibility that Sasuke may awaken the Rinnegan (just a popular speculation). Also, as Kishimoto has made clear, the abilities of the Sharingan (and by extension, the Rinnegan) are not set in stone, seeing as Izanami was just introduced. Also worthy of mentioning, much of Sasuke's prowess with his EMS has yet to be seen, so it's not quite right to say 'Current Naruto > Current Sasuke' when we have yet to see everything Sasuke has gained by awakening the EMS (Like the undisclosed 'fourth technique', for example).
To Summarize:
1. Making comparisons between Naruto and Sasuke while you have 100% of the information on one character but only 50% on the other is completely moot. It's like saying the Lamborghini is faster than the Bugatti when the latter hasn't even rolled off the assembly line yet - it makes no sense. Only after we've seen all there is to Sasuke's new powers, can you make a stable comparison between the two. Until that time, it would be wise to refrain from creating threads like these.
2. There may still be quite a few Sharingan and Rinnegan techniques that have yet to be introduced through Sasuke (assuming he awakens the Rinnegan, though its only speculation), and those new powers may be quite capable of nullifying the many abilities Naruto possesses, bringing things to a stalemate between the two in terms of power; so as I stated before, don't make comparisons with only scant information on one character and 100% of the information on the other.
3.Regardless of Naruto's abilities at this point in time, as the two are representative of Yin & Yang, in their final match, they will be equal - at least in the initial stages of their battle. Each may be able to gain an edge over each other momentarily, much like their first battle at the Valley of the End, whereas Sasuke initially had the advantage, then Naruto did, then Sasuke, etc. However, everything will most likely pan out in the end, so it makes little sense to say that one of them will be able to completely dominate the entire battle - If that's what a majority of you guys are assuming, you will most likely be disappointed. For the battle to be truly intense, both sides need to be balanced, with the Final Clash deciding the Victor. There's little thrill if Naruto dominates the entire fight, and likewise if Sasuke stays in control of the whole match - that's what some of you guys need to understand.
Re: My full detailed discussion on why naruto>sasuke right now( come at me sasuke fan
To be honest, Sasuke needs the rinnegan quite desperately in his current form ffrom what we have seen.
Even without Bijuu mode and only using KCM Naruto would still win, one word stamina
Naruto went through a shitload of training, then went out to war and defeated a ton of enemies (singlehandedly changing the tide of the war) and kept up with tobi and his jinks (with killer bee) right until the end where he finally ran out of kyuubi and sage chakra.
Sasuke has nothing to counter this kind of stamina.
I rest my case, Sasuke needs rinnegan to be equal to Naruto
How is sasuke going to handle all the kage level clones that Naruto can throw at him?..their faster and stronger than sasuke bro U_U Naruto is just really OP right now especially since he's friends with kurama and has BM.
the riakage was also faster and stronger and look at what happened he had to sacrifice his body to get one hit tiajustu is not affective that the point of susano and amaturasu shield and naruto can't just keep sending out clone and dont say his clones are Kage level it been passed around so lightly his clone are truth is their not naruto himself is but not his clones every time I read that I laugh sasuke is Kage level he beat danzo who did naruto beat a bunch of endo who don't even fight at their full capacity because they are being controlled .i tell you one thing naruto has only beaten the tailed beast in a fight you could keep thinking his clones are Kage level if you believe that
the riakage was also faster and stronger and look at what happened he had to sacrifice his body to get one hit tiajustu is not affective that the point of susano and amaturasu shield and naruto can't just keep sending out clone and dont say his clones are Kage level it been passed around so lightly his clone are truth is their not naruto himself is but not his clones every time I read that I laugh sasuke is Kage level he beat danzo who did naruto beat a bunch of endo who don't even fight at their full capacity because they are being controlled .i tell you one thing naruto has only beaten the tailed beast in a fight you could keep thinking his clones are Kage level if you believe that
LOL Naruto KM and his KM clones are faster than raikage and possibly stronger and guess what Naruto can just keep spamming KM clones if/when sasuke manages to strike one out..n KM clones not kage level?..they alone turned the tide of the war and guess what a Naruto KM clone summoned about 100 more clones to stop madara's mokuton..now imagine if each clone did that?
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