My final top 10.

Inert Brian

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With Naruto ending, I have constructed my top 10.

Rules:

-One version of each character, prime version obviously.

-No edo versions since they contractually belong to their summoner. The only exception is Hashirama

-Indra/Ashura go with Naruto and Sasuke in the same spot due to being the same really, being reincarnations and all.

-Italics means the character lacks manga evidence of their strength, but hype/feats back them up.

-DMS Kakashi = DMS Obito, using Kakashi as a medium. I'm not including Juubi jin Obito since Obito is on this list.

10. Might Gai (8 gates)/Edo Hashirama (I put these two together since Might Gai only loses due to lack of seals)

9. Orochimaru w/ Edo Tensei

8. Sage Sasuke/Ashura

7. DMS Kakashi/Obito

6. DSM Kabuto w/ Edo Tensei (he is above 7 and 8 because they have no effective way of sealing all the edos, Naruto can use Shukaku's/Hachibi's ink seals w/ clones.)

5. Sage Naruto/Indra

4. Hamura

3. Double Rinnegan, Juubi jin Madara

2. Double Rinnegan, Juubi jin Hagoromo

1. Kaguya
 
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DMS Obito gots no feats neither.
 

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01 Kaguya
02 Naruto
03 Sasuke
04 Madara
05 Hashirama
06 Obito
07 Nagato
08 Kabuto
09 Itachi
10 Hiruzen
11 Kirabi
12 Muu
13 Minato
14 0rochimaru
15 Sasori
16 Tobirama
17 Jiraiya
18 3rd/4th Raikage
19 Danzou
20 Onoki
 

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-Why are you counting Edo Hashirama when his alive version is stronger? Gai would destroy him anyway, and he'd beat Kabuto and Orochimaru.

-Your reasoning for Sasuke being below Kabuto makes no sense. Not being able to effectively seal the Edos doesn't mean that he's weaker than them. By that logic, Hamura and Kaguya would go below Kabuto as they have no way to effectively seal the Edos either. Sasuke, DMS Obito/DMS Kakashi and Orochimaru w/ Edo Tensei all go above Kabuto.

-Ashura and Indra are clearly not the same as Naruto and Sasuke. Indra and Ashura only obtained some of their father's power. Naruto and Sasuke were given half of his power, each. Sasuke has the Rinnegan (Which Indra didn't have) and Naruto has the 9 Bijuu along with Rikudo Senjutsu, which Asura didn't have. If you really want to include them, they should be above DMS Kakashi and DMS Obito, but definitely below Naruto.

-Sasuke is above Kakashi and Obito.

1. Kaguya
2. JJ Hagoromo
3. JJ Madara
4. Rikudo Senjutsu Naruto
5. Rinnegan Sasuke
6. DMS Kakashi/DMS Obito
7. DMS Obito/DMS Kakashi
8. Might Gai
9. ORochimaru w/Edo Tensei
10. Kabuto w/ Edo Tensei

If I include Indra, Ashura and Hamura

1. Kaguya
2. JJ Hagoromo
3. JJ Madara
4. Hamura
5. Rikudo Senjutsu Naruto
6. Rinnegan Sasuke
7. Ashura
8. Indra
9. DMS Kakashi/DMS Obito
10. DMS Obito/DMS Kakashi
 

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-Why are you counting Edo Hashirama when his alive version is stronger? Gai would destroy him anyway, and he'd beat Kabuto and Orochimaru.

Unlimited Stamina/Health >>> some strength

Gai would destroy him anyway, and he'd beat Kabuto and Orochimaru.
Gai would destroy living Hashirama yes.

I was rethinking of putting Hashi at 9 along with Oro because that fight would go extreme high diff. Hashirama does not beat DSM Kabuto though, Edo Madara is part of his arsenal...

-Your reasoning for Sasuke being below Kabuto makes no sense. Not being able to effectively seal the Edos doesn't mean that he's weaker than them. By that logic, Hamura and Kaguya would go below Kabuto as they have no way to effectively seal the Edos either. Sasuke, DMS Obito/DMS Kakashi and Orochimaru w/ Edo Tensei all go above Kabuto.

I will say that Sasuke beats Kabuto depending on distance, but DSM Kabuto and his edos have higher raw power and versatility.

If Kaguya doesn't have that jutsu that nullifies other jutsu, then she could throw edos in lava world and they're taken care of...Hamura is italicized and can be discarded like I said earlier, so don't worry about him too much.

There is no way Orochimaru would go above DSM Kabuto...Orochimaru only has the 2nd-4th Hokage, Kabuto's edo army is way better.

-Ashura and Indra are clearly not the same as Naruto and Sasuke. Indra and Ashura only obtained some of their father's power. Naruto and Sasuke were given half of his power, each. Sasuke has the Rinnegan (Which Indra didn't have) and Naruto has the 9 Bijuu along with Rikudo Senjutsu, which Asura didn't have. If you really want to include them, they should be above DMS Kakashi and DMS Obito, but definitely below Naruto.

Indra/Ashura can go below them, but they lack feats. Like I said earlier about Hamura, italicized characters can be discarded and are pure speculation.

-Sasuke is above Kakashi and Obito.

While Sasuke and Kakashi are roughly equal I put Sasuke below Kakashi because Kamui is a better technique than his Sharinnegan Teleportation (since it has a recharge timer). Initially I wanted to leave DMS Kakashi out of the list because there are too many unknowns such as Stamina when it comes to him, but at the same time it feels wrong to discard him >_<. Kakashi was landing blows on Kaguya while Sasuke continuously failed to throughout that whole fight.

I think what makes our lists different is what our factors are when placing them.
 

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Kishi messed up Sasuke to the level where people think him and Kakashi are now equal.

Yeah I agree there are a lot of unknowns when it comes to DMS Kakashi. He didn't fight for long and he was collapsing already to the point where Sakura was carrying him. Btw guys I love this guy :ilu: but it's the truth
 

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Kishi messed up Sasuke to the level where people think him and Kakashi are now equal.

Yeah I agree there are a lot of unknowns when it comes to DMS Kakashi. He didn't fight for long and he was collapsing already to the point where Sakura was carrying him. Btw guys I love this guy :ilu: but it's the truth

To be fair to Sasuke, DMS Kakashi is basically a fusion character. It's like when Naruto and Sasuke fused against Juubito. Even then DMS Kakashi is hard to include because one of them consists of a dead guy...but how the hell can he just be left out of the list.
 

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Unlimited Stamina/Health >>> some strength

Unlimited stamina and health isn't strength at all. It only makes it impossible for the Edos to actually be killed. Edo Mu isn't considered stronger than EMS Madara despite the fact EMS Madara is alive while Mu is an Edo. Same principle.



I was rethinking of putting Hashi at 9 along with Oro because that fight would go extreme high diff. Hashirama does not beat DSM Kabuto though, Edo Madara is part of his arsenal...

I said that Gai beats them. Hashirama doesn't beat either. Not to mention Edo Madara isn't apart of Kabuto's arsenal.


I will say that Sasuke beats Kabuto depending on distance, but DSM Kabuto and his edos have higher raw power and versatility.
Sasuke casually cuts Chibaku Tensei orbs the size of the Shinju's root. No Edo Kabuto has in his arsenal surpasses Sasuke when it comes to raw power, so he's far above. Distance isn't even a factor here. If he's far away, he enters Susanoo, closes the distance and one shots Kabuto along with all his Edos.



There is no way Orochimaru would go above DSM Kabuto...Orochimaru only has the 2nd-4th Hokage, Kabuto's edo army is way better.
Hahsirama never really broke out of the jutsu, so he should still be considered as apart of Oro's arsenal. Edo Madara broke the actual contract, Hashirama simply can't be controlled. He's basically the same as a summon. So no, Edo Hokage>Kabuto's Edo Army. BM Minato can power everyone up with the cloaks, or at the very least some raw chakra, which a 3x boost at the minimum. Without Edo Madara, they stand no chance of winning.


While Sasuke and Kakashi are roughly equal I put Sasuke below Kakashi because Kamui is a better technique than his Sharinnegan Teleportation (since it has a recharge timer). Initially I wanted to leave DMS Kakashi out of the list because there are too many unknowns such as Stamina when it comes to him, but at the same time it feels wrong to discard him >_<. Kakashi was landing blows on Kaguya while Sasuke continuously failed to throughout that whole fight.
Rinnegan Teleportation isn't the bulk of Sasuke's strength, judging him by it does't make sense to me. His Susanoo would tear Kakashi's apart, and from there, it just depends on whether he can hit Kakashi and kill him, or whether he outlasts Kakashi.

I think what makes our lists different is what our factors are when placing them.

That's probably it.
 

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Kabuto is too high. Indra, Ashura, and Hamura should not be there imo. Sage Sasuke is too low. Imo.
 

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I demand Lord Chouji go on this damn top 10 bruh.
 

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no edo tensei feats or forms

1. Kaguya
2. Hagoromo
3. Madara
4. Naruto
5. Sasuke
6. Obito
7. Kakashi
8. 8th Gate Guy
9. Hashirama
10. Nagato
 

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no edo tensei feats or forms

1. Kaguya
2. Hagoromo
3. Madara
4. Naruto
5. Sasuke
6. Obito
7. Kakashi
8. 8th Gate Guy
9. Hashirama
10. Nagato

You forgot Prime Chouji
 

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6. DSM Kabuto w/ Edo Tensei (he is above 7 and 8 because they have no effective way of sealing all the edos, Naruto can use Shukaku's/Hachibi's ink seals w/ clones.)
Kakashi and Obito can effectively deal with edos by sending them to the kamui dimension.
 

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no edo tensei feats or forms

1. Kaguya
2. Hagoromo
3. Madara
4. Naruto
5. Sasuke
6. Obito
7. Kakashi
8. 8th Gate Guy
9. Hashirama
10. Nagato

DMS Obito/DMS Kakashi>Juubito.
 

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Yes however DMS Obito > DMS Kakashi

Oh, so you were using DMS version? How so? They are pretty much the same, except Kakashi has all of Obito's chakras along with his own.
 
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